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£8000 a year to give parliament's pigeons the bird



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Published Date: 03 January 2008
CLEANING up after pigeons at the Scottish Parliament and taking steps to keep them out of the building is costing taxpayers thousands of pounds a year.
A persistent bird problem has meant Holyrood forking out for major clean-up operations, spikes to stop birds landing on ledges and special netting to keep them out of recesses.

The total cost of measures to protect the building from pigeons has hit more than £8000 a year, and that's on top of a £35,000 four-year contract for pest control, which includes dealing with pigeon problems.

The costs have prompted renewed calls for a bird of prey to be brought in to keep the pigeons away.

The bill for anti-pigeon measures at the parliament has totalled almost £24,000 over the past three years – £8000 in 2005-06, £5450 in 2006-07 and £10,986 in 2007-08.

Documents released under freedom of information legislation, show incidents reported in the past year included dead pigeons at various places around the campus and a bird caught in netting near the debating chamber.

There were also complaints about birds nesting outside windows and in vents above the underground car park and a gull roosting on the roof of the MSPs' restaurant.

Further gripes included "pigeon mess" at the public entrance, the Canongate entrance and under the canopy near the ponds, with reports of pigeons getting inside the building.

One message sent to the incident log read: "I have two in my room. Fortunately the bomb blast interior doors keep them out, but they are sitting on the floor at present with twigs! Maybe they want to set up home."

And another said: "Pigeon has got into building and is flying around in the corridor, third floor, MSP block."

Last April, the parliament installed anti-pigeon spikes on ledges at the front of the building at a cost of £5000, including the hire of a cherry picker, the removal of bird droppings and cleaning.

And a memo from the parliament's facilities management department spelled out the problems of keeping the building free of "unsightly guano", stating that this "requires abseilers to clean".

However, as soon as cleaning is complete the area becomes infested again.

Parliament officials have insisted the use of falcons was never considered appropriate, but Independent Lothians MSP Margo MacDonald said:

"Perhaps we should think again about the possibility of letting not a cat among the pigeons, but a trained falcon."

She added: "That seems to be the only thing that works, if we judge by other places that have had this problem."

The full article contains 440 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

revsween,

03/01/2008 11:50:58
why should we spend money to stop pigeons sh1te1ng on politicos surely the first step is to stop politicos cr4pping on the rest of us
2

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 03/01/2008 12:12:40
Pests on the outside, irritating and ineffectual pests and vermin on the inside.

If only you Scots could exterminate HUMANELY some of the useless twits that infest Holyrood and continue to mismanage Scotland.

Is there a solution?
3

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03/01/2008 12:13:34
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4

Toast,

03/01/2008 12:26:51
Money far better spent improving sports facilities for young people,either get a couple of hawks or mount Wendy on the roof.
5

Gothic Rose,

03/01/2008 12:37:16
Oh What a DOO DA.
6

revsween,

03/01/2008 12:43:48
4#The thought of mounting wendy should frighten off more than pigeons
7

Jakey Rowling,

03/01/2008 12:49:42
6.
Yup, it gives pigeon-hole a completely new meaning.
8

Unimpressed one,

03/01/2008 12:51:03
The numpties at Holyrood should save our money and just admit that the pigeons might have good taste in that they recognise a sh*theap when they see it!
9

Sqidward,

03/01/2008 13:04:29
Let's hope Margos trained hawk is hungry enough to eat all the wee buggers. It wouldn't be fair to move the problem on to somewhere else.
10

sceptic,

03/01/2008 13:41:14
Can't blame the pigeons, it looks like a doocot.
11

Hector Goodrich (Dr),

Gillin pronounced 'Gullane' 03/01/2008 14:04:38
Pigeons have been here since, well....pigeons.
With many years of pigeon knowledge behind us, was it beyond the ability of Miralles to provide some pigeon-proofing to the embarrassing heap of concrete?
12

Farky,

Edinburgh 03/01/2008 14:14:26
Pigeons are a menace throughout Edinburgh and cost many a business a small fortune in clean up costs. They are filthy and irritating, I'm fed up of not being able to sit on a park bench because of the amount of pigeon poo all ove it.

I'd like to see something being done to control their numbers. Poisoning most of them would be a good start!
13

Miss Jean Brodie,

03/01/2008 14:16:11
Apparently Labour, Liberals and Conservatives send them across to the Scotsman publication building with misinformation - and the Scotsman prints it.
14

revsween,

03/01/2008 14:26:21
13#Whit! the doos?
15

Black Five,

edinburgh 03/01/2008 16:20:44
Badly designed,badly built, costly beyond belief and now it`s a glorified doocot can we ever do anything right?
16

Andrew D,

03/01/2008 16:55:47
Ok... am I the only one here that read 'ukp8000 bill for dealing with the flying rats' and thought; So what?

8000 is chicken feed (pardon). I mean... are we really going to get antsy over eight piddly thousand and yet smile and shrug as a nation, as four hundred million is wasted on some bygones era fetishism for the capital?
17

Shellfishfarmer,

Inverness 03/01/2008 17:25:45
You can't blame the pigeons. The buiding is simply a interesting rock face, conveniently near endless food supplies, hence the name Rock Dove. Personally, I think its design is far too complicated and its cladding completely out of place in Edinburgh. Granite and mass concrete in a hopelessly tight space at the bottom of a hill. What a combination!
18

Andrew Allan,

03/01/2008 18:02:04
The reason for so many pigeons has been known for a long time now. People who drop uneaten food all over the place have created ideal conditions for the pigeons to breed in much larger numbers. When the pigeons can't get hold of large amounts of food they produce less offspring, that is nature for you.
19

calum,

03/01/2008 18:07:48
So, Margo, when the children visiting the "open" Parliament see the pigeon they have just fed at "tuppence a bag" being ripped to shreds in front of their eyes by one of the most efficient killers around, you will be happy? Remember, think before speaking, eh?
20

revsween,

03/01/2008 18:08:56
16#in the grand scheme of things 8k is heehaw but surley 2 uberellas and a relay system would be cheaper
also the thought of our MSPs getting sh4t on has a delightfull irony that cheers me up
21

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03/01/2008 19:59:48
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22

WKKB,

03/01/2008 20:03:28
I vote those guys that approved the design should be the ones cleaning up the crap. This was a pigeon roost waiting to happen. Just look at all the nooks and cranies the architect drew into the plans. What a mess!
23

ARM,

Edinburgh 03/01/2008 21:29:07
Yet another anti Scottish Parliament story from Ian Swanson. He must have written 100s of these vindictive stories over the last few years.
The mistakes made on the Parliament building are on public record for all to see and constantly dredging things up drags down the whole of Scotland - as well as being very boring.
24

JayDeeTee,

03/01/2008 21:39:29
There are far more dangerous "birds" inside the building. Mind you, £8k to get rid of them would be good value for money.
25

Boy Wonder,

03/01/2008 21:57:16
So they'll spend yet more cash to stop pigeons getting into the Parly ... but cut the cash needed for children with brain injuries' therapies like the one preceeding this article??

Makes you think, eh?
26

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 03/01/2008 22:18:59
.what.alot.off.crap.anything.will.help.the.eyesore
27

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 03/01/2008 22:23:53
i.watched.a.hawk.everyday.swoop.down.in.toronto/got.him
28

watcher4,

edinburgh 03/01/2008 22:36:01
They should gather at the door and sh1te on them when they come out
29

BIG EYE,

03/01/2008 23:03:47
Piecemeal spot treatments will never solve the problem.

How does any SCOTTISH company get quoting to solve this problem?

For years a company I am a shareholder in has tried to quote for this work on the Scottish Parliament. they ahve a letter that says they are on the approved suppliers list.

They have never been asked to quote for a single job yet regularly read in the papers about ongoing pest problems.

Puzzling isn't it?
30

BIG EYE,

03/01/2008 23:05:17
Piecemeal spot treatments will never solve the problem.

How does any SCOTTISH company get quoting to solve this problem?

For years a company I am a shareholder in has tried to quote for this work on the Scottish Parliament. they have a letter that says they are on the approved suppliers list.

They have never been asked to quote for a single job yet regularly read in the papers about ongoing pest problems.

Puzzling isn't it?
31

Hickory,

US 03/01/2008 23:44:43
Aye, the birdies are givin' 'em what they've been givin' everyone else for years. Do ye know when a politician is feedin' ye a line 'o birdie doo? Well, 'is lips 'er movin'.
32

Haggis MacBagpipes,

Central Canada 04/01/2008 03:00:57
A couple of Peregrine Falcons would most probably help to either provide food for the Falcon's offspring, and/or chase the pigeons away from the Parly building.
Peregrine Falcons don't normally kill or eat their victims in view of anyone, including children.

This city, in which I live, have re-introduced Peregrine Falcons here and as 'food' is plentiful they return each year, and nest on the flat roof of a downtown hotel and thanks to a webcam we can watch the offspring hatch and grow, it makes for very interesting viewing.

I can't see why the introduction of Peregrine Falcons at the Parly building should be any different than here. The pigeons have moved from downtown to the top of the building I live in, but I'm sure that will change as soon as the Peregrines return, this year.

Cheers,
Haggis MacBagpipes™©
33

WKKB,

20/05/2008 14:02:31
they wouldn't have this problem if they'd built a more traditional building. They literally GAVE the pigeons nooks and crannys to make nesting in and on the parliment building PERFECT. Ya gotta laugh at it all today.

 

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