Help Sitemap Home Skip Navigation Contact Us Disability Statement

 
 
Saturday, 5th July 2008 Change Date

Premium Article !

Your account has been frozen. For your available options click the below button.

Options

Premium Article !

To read this article in full you must have registered and have a Premium Content Subscription with the Edinburgh Evening News site.

Subscribe

Registered Article !

To read this article in full you must be registered with the site.

A serious election headache that needs a sensitive touch to cure



Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image

Should national and local elections be held on the same day if it encourages more people to vote? Our Political Editor, Ian Swanson, examines the pitfalls of the scheme.
NO-ONE ever wants to see a repeat of the fiasco which blighted last year's elections. The thousands of rejected ballot papers, the counts delayed by electronic counting problems and voters disenfranchised because their postal votes failed to arrive o
n time, added up to a national embarrassment. Now change is under way to ensure it does not happen again.

The SNP is engaged in a battle with the Scotland Office over transferring responsibility for Holyrood elections from Westminster to the Scottish Parliament.

Already, there has been a promise to return to separate ballot papers for the list and constituency votes. The next parliament elections will be counted manually – though for council elections the voting system makes electronic counting the only realistic option.

The Scottish Government has set out its proposals for "de-coupling" the Holyrood and council elections, which have so far always been held on the same day.

The idea of separating them is not new. The McIntosh Commission, which reported just a month after the first Scottish Parliament elections back in 1999, suggested a two-year gap between the polls. Tory MSPs have proposed member's bills to bring about the split.

But the latest move has been sparked by the report by Canadian election expert Ron Gould into last year's election debacle, which recommended de-coupling.

There seems to be majority support for the plan among MSPs. In addition to the SNP and the Tories, the Greens back elections on different days. Labour, which ruled out separating the elections when it was in power, appears to have dropped its opposition. Only the Liberal Democrats are still against the idea.

But there is nothing in Mr Gould's report to show the combined election contributed to the problems last May. His findings put the blame squarely on the decision to have a single ballot paper for list and constituency votes; the design of the ballot paper; and trying to implement too many changes – not least electronic counting – at one go, without adequate testing.

His argument for unlinking council and parliament elections has little to do with what went wrong last year – rather, it is that a combined poll means the issues in the parliament election inevitably overshadow those in the council contests.

The opposing argument is that a combined election helps lift turnout for council elections, which has traditionally been lower than national elections. Mr Gould concedes this, quoting average turnouts for council-only elections of 46 per cent, compared with 54 per cent in the three elections when council and parliament votes have been combined.

In Edinburgh, council-only elections stirred only 44.5 per cent to go and vote last time, compared with nearly 72 per cent for the 1997 general election when Tony Blair was first elected, and over 61 per cent for the first combined council and parliament election. Council-only polls have, in the past, seen turnouts as low as 26 per cent in Pilton, 29 per cent in Craigmillar and 30 per cent in Muirhouse.

Some supporters of de-coupling go further and suggest combined elections are concealing the level of political disengagament at local level by artificially boosting the turnout for council elections. Opponents of de-coupling argue timing council elections at the halfway point of a parliament's four-year life is simply an invitation to voters to use them as a mid-term verdict on the Scottish Government. Mr Gould implies separate elections will mean more media coverage for council contests. But papers such as the Evening News already offer thorough reporting and analysis of the local campaigns.

Separate elections will also be more expensive. But it seems unlinking is all but inevitable. The consultation paper published yesterday floats various options for achieving the transition – including still holding council elections in the same year as the parliament ones, just delaying them by six months; or fixing the council elections a year before or a year after the parliament poll.

The most likely plan is to give the current councils a five-year term by postponing the next elections from 2011 to 2012, followed by another five-year term to take the elections to the mid-point of the parliament, then revert to four-year terms.

But Scotland also has to vote in Westminster elections, which can be called at any time. In the first ten years of devolution, these have been at four-year intervals, coinciding with the mid-term of the Scottish Parliament.

So even after the careful separation of council and Holyrood elections, voters could still find themselves facing two elections on the same day.





The full article contains 805 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
Page 1 of 1

 
1

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 11:19:31
The simple solution is to keep New Labour sleaze and corruption party away from the organisation of elections. It only encourages their talent and artistry for deceit.
2

Top Floor,

20/03/2008 12:51:49
#1

You're one to talk about deceit

Brick for brick indeed ............. ?
3

fifeis great,

Kirkcaldy 20/03/2008 12:58:21
Gnats, the party who can cut through planning applications like a first ministers nod and wink.
4

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 13:18:49
#1 You keep proving yourself unable to judge politics rationally. The truth is that the SNP was entirely complicit in the single ballot paper decision. All the main parties were. To date, only Labour has apologised for it.
5

Merouane,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 13:45:12
#4. Well they were the government of the time. And they have had a lot of practice at apologising for things recently.
6

Jackie Priest,

20/03/2008 13:54:49
#4

Labour apologised because the buck stopped with them and they were guilty of trying to scupper the election to prevent the SNP from winnning.

It almost worked but thankfully not.

Your attempts to spread the blame across all parties is typical Labour dishonesty that no longer washes with the Scottish public.
7

An Beal Bacht,

20/03/2008 14:03:05
4 - Duncan:

the Scotland Office and Dougie Alexander were responsible. Control of elections is a reserved matter. One hundred and forty thousand (140,000) voters were disenfranchised due to their incompetence (or worse). You can't be in charge and then blame others for the resulting fiasco.

Perhaps if labour grew a spine and accepted this people might start to trust them again - nah!
8

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 14:16:40
4

Apologise for it?? they wont even admit their full complicity in it. Duncan Alexander should have resigned over the entire shambles he himself is fully responsible for.

2

and I have no idea what the F*ck youre on about another new logon or another old troll with a different logon.
9

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 14:33:35
#8 The move to a single ballot paper was approved by all four main parties. It has been shown to have been at the root of the spoiled papers issue. Why have the other three main parties not acknowledged that they approved the scheme that they later criticised?

The point being made by #2 was, I believe, that the SNP guaranteed to match Labour's schools building plans "brick for brick". Until they got into power, that is, and cancelled all new schools buildings projects in Edinburgh, and restricted the renovation programme too.
10

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 14:39:24
#6 It is almost universally acknowledged that the changes were designed to improve the fortunes of the major parties at the expense of the smaller parties. The election results bear this out.

It is also widely accepted that the party which was damaged most by the spoiled ballots was Labour.

Framing this as a Labour attempt to scupper the SNP is nothing short of ludicrous.
11

Stepford Nat,

20/03/2008 14:43:28
It was Labour's fault. They were the government of the time.
Alex is infallible. Wendy is rubbish.
12

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 14:48:26
#10,are you gordon browns secret love child,cause you sound awfy like him.He talks a lot of p****sh too.
13

Merouane,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 15:06:40
#10. "It is also widely accepted that the party which was damaged most by the spoiled ballots was Labour."

I'm sorry, but that's the first I've heard about this. Is there any evidence out there to support this?
14

An Beal Bacht,

20/03/2008 15:23:43
The Scottish Parliament must control future elections. We simply can't trust Westminster and the Scotland Office. To have 140,000 people disenfranchised is unforgivable and can never be allowed to happen again. Similarly, the use of e-voting has been shown to be open to fraud and corruption and the only possible reason to continue to use this discredited technology is to steal elections. A return to paper ballots and manual counting is fundamental to a fair and transparent electoral system. Democracy will return to Scotland once it has been wrestled from the death grip of labour's corpse.
15

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 15:26:22
#13 Have you read the Gould report?

The constituencies with the largest proportion of "rejected for uncertainty" ballots also had the largest proportion of historical Labour support. In other words, Labour areas were affected disproportionally.

On top of this, constituency votes were twice as badly affected as regional votes in these areas, and since Labour retained these constituency seats while the SNP gained seats on the proportionality principle from the regional vote, the effect was a double-whammy in favour of the SNP.

It is pure unadulterated nonsense to suggest either that the single ballot scheme was designed to damage the SNP, or indeed that it did damage the SNP. The former allegation is refuted by the fact that the SNP were complicit in the decision, and the latter by the fact that in the event, Labour areas spoiled more ballots than SNP areas.
16

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 15:29:12
#14 Really. How, exactly, would you propose to run STV local elections without electronic counting?

I agree absolutely that open and verifiable systems are essential, but there is no need to be Luddite about it. We should just specify that systems should have voter-verifiable paper-trails, and be open source so that algorithms are provably non-corrupt.
17

An Beal Bacht,

20/03/2008 15:32:54
16 - Duncan in Edinburgh, 20/03/2008 15:29:12 writes:

"I agree absolutely that open and verifiable systems are essential, but there is no need to be Luddite about it. We should just specify that systems should have voter-verifiable paper-trails, and be open source so that algorithms are provably non-corrupt."

Yes - I could agree to that.


18

barmeyfred,

20/03/2008 15:36:55
instead of trying to encourage people to vote,make it illegal for them not to vote a heavily fine those that do not use there vote.
in saying this I also believe there should be a "none of the above" box that could be ticked to show your disaproval all all parties and all candidates.
19

Jackie Priest,

20/03/2008 15:38:28
#10

No, it's not universally acknowledged etc etc.

It is clear to anyone with an iota of sense that Labour tried to manufacture the ruin of the election to prevent the SNP winning.

It was, on their part, a last ditch attempt to throw the election into chaos in the desperate hope that things would fall in their favour.

To believe otherwise, or to swallow any further dishonesty that comes from Labour, is sheer naivity.
20

Merouane,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 15:44:45
#15. I don't think anyone's suggesting that the rejected ballots affected the SNP disproportionately or that the single ballot paper was designed to minimise the SNP's vote. As far as I'm concerned, it was designed to minimise the vote of the smaller parties, hence why all four of the larger parties agreed to it.

As for Labour losing out, this is based on the assumption that the rejected votes were in proportion to the votes that stood. I don't see the basis for that.
21

Merouane,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 15:47:52
Ok, I'm obviously wrong... there are people out there who think this was an anti-SNP conspiracy. While I wouldn't put it past Labour... I realldy don't see much evidence to support this.
22

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 15:50:48
9

That doesnt account for the missing ballots Duncan nor the fact that Labour party activists were caught filling in the postal voting forms for elderly and infirm voters.

It is also widely accepted that the party which was damaged most by the spoiled ballots was Labour.

Widely accepted by who Duncan?? ONLY the Labour party!!

The fact remains that the SNP were way ahead in the polls and Labour paniced and as a result 140,000 votes were discounted and many more lost NOT A COINCIDENCE DUNCAN not by a long shot.
Lessons learned from Florida.
23

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 15:51:55
21

If there was evidence then it would be deemed not to be in the publics interest to publish it havent you worked that out yet??
24

Merouane,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 15:57:46
#23. Aye maybe. I do think things have changed though. Labour's grip has been loosened and I think these things have a habit of coming out.

I do agree that there was a lot of dodgy goings on regarding the postal ballots though. That's a slightly different story though.
25

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 16:09:47
#19 No, I'm sorry, that is nothing more than a wild conspiracy theory, completely unsupported by the facts.

Your problem is that you have gone so far down the line of "SNP good; Labour bad" that it has blinded you to reality. All parties have good and bad people, all do good and bad things.
26

 Ayrshire Scot™,

20/03/2008 16:10:52
8. Duncan

can you tell us which person had the decision making power on the ballot design? and thus, the responsibility?

can you also tell us who appointed the disastrous contracts for un-proven electronic counting?

27

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 16:13:25
#22 Typically you are conflating two unrelated issues, and then creating a totally unbelievable conspiracy theory. Why do you do this?

I have no idea whether postal ballots were being impinged; I hope anyone who did so will be caught and punished.

But it is utter lunacy to suggest that the shift to a single ballot, which the independent review identified as the source of the spoiled papers on the day, was a Labour plot against the SNP. How many times must I point out that the SNP agreed to the change, well in advance of the election!

These conspiracy theories do no good to our ability in this country to hold rational political argument. Please stop it.
28

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 16:18:05
#26 You know fine well the answer to your first question and no-one is denying it was the Labour minister. He apologised for the problems that ensued. He took responsibility. My point remains that the decision was approved by the other large parties as part of a deliberate, concerted attempt to improve their "second vote" to the detriment of the smaller, regional list only parties.

While some of the electronic counting machines had faults on the night which delayed counting, none of the issues with spoiled ballots were related to electronic counting in any way. All papers rejected as spoiled were hand-reviewed, and the machines were found to be working correctly. It is unhelpful for people to keep conflating the issue of vote counting machines with the issue of poor ballot design.

The Gould report was pretty clear on all of this. This is nothing more than Labour-baiting.
29

 Ayrshire Scot™,

20/03/2008 16:18:29
27. Duncan, Labour have an appalling record on postal ballot fraud. Indeed, a judge descibed Labour's election fraud as being so bad as to "disgrace a banana republic"


"Labour election fraud ‘would disgrace a banana republic’ - Times ...in the most corrupt election campaign since the ...
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article377468.ece
30

 Ayrshire Scot™,

20/03/2008 16:20:42
28. "he took responsibility" while at the same time, like Duncan, trying to blame everyone else? You either "take responsibility" or you don't Duncan - uf Alexander "takes responsibility" that would preclude him blaming other people. Douglas Alexander was the Labour minister who made the decision, and he was the one who gave the go ahead for the costly and chaotic vote count systems.
31

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 16:35:46
#30 What an utterly disingenuous comment.

Repeatedly I have pointed out the bare fact that all four major parties agreed to the change to a single ballot, and not once have you acknowledged this fact. It remains a fact whether you acknowledge it or not. Pretending that the SNP was blameless does not make it so.

I found it quite hilarious to see the rain of SNP commentary on the Salmond/Trump story this morning, all saying that the media should "move on", that Labour were "obsessed" with the issue and that it was just a way of attacking Salmond.

And yet day in day out this is the tactic you use! Why not "move on" from this story? Why not accept joint responsibility for the ballot paper mistake? Why not learn the lessons and ensure that our democracy is strengthened as a result? Oh no, far better to snipe snipe snipe at Labour, far better to invent conspiracy stories and use them as nationalist hate points.

Where is the rational, reasonable political debate happening today? Cos it isn't happening here.
32

Stepford Nat,

20/03/2008 16:44:39
It's an anti-SNP conspiracy
33

An Beal Bacht,

20/03/2008 16:48:26
BBC - Monday, 3 September 2007, 17:39 GMT 18:39

"An investigation has established that the machines were programmed to reject some of the new style ballot papers automatically.

They never appeared on the screens to be challenged by the parties or adjudicated by returning officers."

Conspiracy theory? Nothing theoretical about this!


34

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 16:53:16
25

Since when has Labour or its supporters ever dealt in facts??
35

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 17:00:37
27

Whats so unbelievable about it?? New Labour are drowning in proven sleaze scandals. The cash for honours scandal is no conspiricy theory yet there will be no prosecution why?? because of more corruption.
The problem is Duncan as you very well know the people set up to investigate or determine the "Facts" are the very people under investigation for the alleged wrong doing. How on earth do we get to the truth under those circumstances???? the commission set up to investigate the election scandal was itself setup by the very people involved with the scandal. Its like allowing a criminal to choose the members of his own jury in court. That in itself is corruption.
36

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 17:02:49
31

The SNP didnt have a single hand in arranging any part of the election Duncan and you know it.
The entire election was controlled and run by the Scottish office full stop.
37

Miss H,

20/03/2008 17:22:54
4 That's actually not true Duncan. My information is that the SNP argued against having one ballot paper. The fact that HQ exploited the design in order to get Alex Salmond for First Minister up at the top of the ballot paper does not mean that they supported the design in the first place. They just made the most of the opportunity that was available to them.
38

 Ayrshire Scot™,

20/03/2008 17:27:49
31. More New Labour new speak. If Douglas Alexander, as you say, took responsibility, why do you want others to take "joint responsibility". Or did Douglas Alexander, whose sole responsibility as minister it was, take "joint responsibility".

Typical snake words from new Labour. WMD ready at 45 minutes, illegal donations "unintentionally" solicited, no responsibility for the chaos of Iraq, and still not a clean statement accepting full responsibility for the election farce, and worse, new Labour reneging on their pledge to accept the Gould report recommendation to transfer control of elections to Holyrood.
39

Miss H,

20/03/2008 17:41:25
Actually I am wrong - they accepted a single ballot paper but argued for a different design. They argued as follows:

1. The registered political parties in alphabetical order in the regional vote with corresponding party candidates for the constituency on the same line of the
ballot paper.

2. The party and candidate names on the left side of each half of the page and the voting box on the right, rather than in the centre as illustrated. We believe this would minimise the chance of electors accidentally voting only once and reflects a more traditional ballot format.

3. The two halves of the page distinguished using colour. The white and colour option seems most effective.

All of the responses are available here: http://www.scotlandoffice.gov.uk/uploads/ballot%20paper%20design%20cons.%20responses.pdf

It is interesting that the SNP spotted the potential for people to accidentally only vote once and it is also interesting that they wanted the registered political parties in alphabetical order. The registered name of the SNP is the Scottish National Party (SNP). However parties are allowed to register up to 6 (I think) names. The SNP argued against that - because it allows parties to add 'Scottish' to the front of their name when in fact - with the exception of the Greens and SSP - their registered name does not include the word 'Scottish'.

Had the SNP's recommendations been accepted they would not have been able to use Alex Salmond for First Minister because that is not the party's registered name. But on the other hand the Labour Party would not have been able to use 'Scottish Labour' because that is not their registered name.
40

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 17:45:51
Getting away from the main theme running - kicking the cr@p out of the school sneak, Bendy Wendy's hapless wee brother, Doogie - great sport though it is - can anybody explain why we have to endure the incompetent numpty cooncillors for an EXTRA year. If we want to 'de-couple' the Cooncil idiot-elections from the election of the even bigger idiots at Follyrood, why don't we bring the local elections forward by a year? And add to that a maximum of Two terms in office, before having a compulsory term-out, would rid us of current breed of professional, toy-town politicians - they'd have to go and find real jobs. And experience the real-world pension situation.
41

subrosa,

20/03/2008 17:52:22
I thought the use of electronic voting at last May's elections was a trial. Can anyone tell me if using this system saves us taxpayers any money? I just don't trust the system as it's only as good as it's software. Also with the Kinnock connection... no it shouldn't be allowed. No serving politician should have anything to do with supplying software to our political system.
42

Arthur X,

20/03/2008 17:54:35
Duncan's more or less right, but some of the nuances I disagree with. The single ballot paper was proposed by Labour in London to do down the SSP and the Greens, and it succeeded. However, most of the spoiled ballots were Labour constituency votes combined with Green regional votes (but actually they voted twice on the regional list). The Greens and the SSP objected, the others did not.

The "sloganisation" which allowed misleading "Alex Salmond For First Minister" tags on regional lists where AS wasn't standing was a loophole agreed by all parties, but then used most intelligently by SNP strategists. That doesn't make it something we should let happen again. And again it probably hurt Labour, the Greens and the SSP the worst.
43

Transparent?,

Scotland 20/03/2008 19:27:13
I hear there is a foolproof system using touch screen technology, where the results could not be distorted by human hand. No scanning, no manual counting and secrecy preserved.

Trouble is, the MSPs don't want a foolproof system that they cannot meddle with. They would rather screw it up a second time than give the public something they could learn to trust.
44

Miss H,

20/03/2008 19:33:27
40 If you do that you are likely to run into the Westminster General Election. Unless they hold that in 2009 which I don't think they will because that would coincide with the European elections.

41. To count a national STV election by hand would take about a week and you would have much greater scope for error than doing it electronically. I would suggest we should simply invest in the same technology as the Irish use - seems to work for them.
45

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 19:50:47
Actually the only way to assure ourselves that such systems are not biased is for the software to be open source and for the paper trail to be voter-verifiable.

The problem with coming from the other direction and excluding politicians is that political affiliation does not have to be declared openly, so you could just as easily have bias in a system which barred openly politically affiliated people.

Systems exist which pass the accountability test; but voting machines is big business and the closed-source, "just trust us" salespeople can be persuasive to non-technical decision-makers.
46

morris,

edinburgh 20/03/2008 21:34:08
9
Why have the other parties not acknowledged that they approved the ballot paper ? They have Duncan,many times and its common knowledge they did not oppose its use, and it would never have been used if they had objected presumably.Nobody denies this.Labour pretend they have which is not the same thing at all.
What they have not acknowledged is that they are responsible for Labour having put the Alexander idiots into positions of responsibility ,positions which neither is capable of doing. Why should they accept blame for Labours screw up ?
Labours answer to everything It wisnae me.


Its common knowledge that all parties agreed to run with it,but Labour designed and implemented it,and they were in government and Douglas Alexander made a complete hee haw just like his sister has.

Its as simple as that and Labour screwed up this just like they screw up everything.
47

morris,

edinburgh 20/03/2008 21:37:16
44
That makes infinite sense.The Irish have a system which works. Copy it. The simplest most effective solution to every problem that ever existed.Use one thats proven to work.
48

Stepford Nat,

20/03/2008 22:09:01
46 Yeah. It's all Labour's fault. Wendy & Dougie are rubbish. Alex is brilliant
49

Duncan in Edinburgh,

20/03/2008 22:09:59
#46 Really morris?

Point me at one public statement post the election in which the SNP acknowledged their share of the blame. Because I can point you at twenty high profile instances in which they placed all the blame on Douglas Alexander, but I can't find a single public statement from Salmond or another SNP leader which acknowledges the truth of the big parties' stitch-up.

So point me at these "many times" please, because I have never seen one.
50

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 22:23:45
#44- point taken, but that's more a problem with the Wesrminster system than the Scottish, Parliamentary or Local. If Westminster also worked to a fixed term, it would prevent the incumbent government from picking their ground; either dragging it out to the bitter end or cutting and running when they consider the auguries good. Or in Bottler Broon's case, blustering and shouting then when challenged to put up or shut up, he hid under the bed.
51

I eat cookies wrapped in scotch tape,

twice, I missed my chance 21/03/2008 00:06:06
I, personally, found the "winning" candidate's listing at the top of the Ballot Paper misleading, offensive and derogatory:

"Alex Salmond for First Minister, Supreme Leader of Farkallatall and Chief Eater of Mutton Pies with Chips, Salt and Vinegar."

I prefer brown sauce with mine.
52

glassbenmhor,

21/03/2008 09:11:08
Its got b*ggar all to do with the SNP and everything to do with pancaking Labour namely Brown and then Scottish Office,MI5 and election day!
Oh so sorry I forgot about Neil Kinnock Software???????????????????????
53

glassbenmhor,

21/03/2008 09:18:39
Illegal to the core ,you couldn't make it up if you tried the 140,000 votes was all about '*hit were losing, right nobodies winning ,some spook presses a button on his laptop as he reads the Guardian in an Islington Coffee Shop
Title,'Democracy in the Tartan Shade',only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in..................!
54

CRAGman,

21/03/2008 09:20:18
Wouldn't it be simpler to just go back to the 1999 and 2003 systems? i.e. separate constituency and list papers for the parliament and the traditional first past the post for councils. That seemed to work OK. Introducing STV for council votes encouraged folk to vote as often as they liked in the parliament ballot - one of the causes of the chaos.
55

Duncan in Edinburgh,

21/03/2008 09:40:22
#54 Introducing STV also removed Labour's vice-like grip on many local authorities across the country. Which I consider to be a good thing, by the way. Proportional representation brings challenges, but in time people will realise that they have far more control over their councillors than they used to.

 

Comment on this Story

 

In order to post comments you must Register or Sign In

 
 
 
  

 
 


Sister Newspapers:
Press Complaints Commission

This website and its associated newspaper adheres to the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. If you have a complaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then contact the Editor by clicking here.

If you remain dissatisfied with the response provided then you can contact the PCC by clicking here.