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Mixu urges Hibs fans to trust him in player search



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Published Date: 23 July 2008
MIXU PAATELAINEN today urged Hibs fans muttering at the lack of summer signings to trust his judgment as he insisted there will be new faces in place before the SPL season kicks off in a fortnight's time.
So far David Van Zanten, snapped up under freedom of contract from St Mirren, remains Paatelainen's only capture, leading to an increasing number of supporters voicing their frustration at the apparent lack of action.

Today Paatelainen insisted h
e is working flat out behind the scenes to strengthen his squad but again stressed he wouldn't be tempted to make signings simply to silence his critics.

He said: "It sometimes seems that people are saying that any player who is available we should sign but I am not going to make signings simply for the sake of it. They must be players who can strengthen and improve our squad.

"If only people knew how hard we are working. We are moving closer but unfortunately things aren't so simple. But it will happen and when the season starts we will be ready."

Paatelainen acknowledged there are financial constraints, but, conscious that could well be construed as an image of a penny-pinching club, he said: "Every business has limits, a framework within which it has to work.

"The chairman (Rod Petrie] and the board are running the club in such a way it won't get into financial troubles in the future and I am sure no-one wants that to happen.

"Good players cost a lot of money in terms of wages and, sometimes, transfer fees, sometimes figures you cannot match. That's reality." And, insisted Paatelainen, it is a reality which affects every club as he questioned whether Rangers boss Walter Smith would have been able to afford the likes of Brian Laudrup, Jorg Albertz and Artur Numan – who all played against his side for Clyde last night – in today's market.

Paatelainen was also adamant that he is getting the full backing of the directors as he continues his search for fresh talent, pointing out how they had given the green light for him to sign John Rankin, Ian Murray and Colin Nish within weeks of him becoming the manager.

He revealed, though, that one way of freeing up additional funds would be to reduce what he sees as an over-sized squad.

He said: "We have too many players at the moment and there have been signings made that I do not think are good enough for this club."

But again, it's a case of it being easier to say player numbers need to be reduced than to make it happen if the individuals concerned are reluctant to go, leaving Hibs obliged to honour their contracts.

And Paatelainen insisted there was absolutely no friction between himself and the board regarding the budget to which he is working. He said: "Ask any manager anywhere in the world and he'd tell you he'd like more to spend.

"But every manager is limited. I want to improve a good squad of players and I have to dig deep to make sure we find these players with the money we have available."

A "mixed" Hibs side beat Montrose 6-1 in a closed-doors match yesterday.







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  • Last Updated: 23 July 2008 11:25 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

Lenny,

23/07/2008 11:50:30
Signing players that are not good enough for Hibs? Mmm, like Zarabi for example???
2

Al Berkid,

Edinburgh 23/07/2008 11:56:44
Believe me Mixu nobody wants you to sign any old player as Rankin, Canning, Zarabi standard are not what we are looking for. Nish has done OK but not the answer either.

He is lucky we are up against a poor hearts team, with adolf goulash the clown in charge (well partly) and them riddled with debt.

Might have to settle for 5th or 6th I feel as Utd, Mwell and Falkirk are all in better shape... for now.
3

BRUHibs,

23/07/2008 11:57:05
Financial stability, an excellent owned training facility and a manager who manages team affairs is a great basis. Need more this year though and pronto as we have been saying this for the past 2 years. 4 players required, one in each area and with experience and steel to work alongside the developing guy's.
4

Away down In Gorgie (2),

23/07/2008 12:04:09
Here lies the problem with Hibs.

No debt.

No ambition.

5

Neutral Observer,

23/07/2008 12:05:49
Its all been said before on the need for incoming players. Let's concentrate now on the real issues:

> Fans dressed as seats
> Lack of debt
> FFF versus hoofball
> Wheelbarrow races in training
> Disability benefit pays for season tickets in the hobo slums
> Our manager is thinner than yours
> Our manager has more hair than yours
> The fax machine is broken again

etc, etc
6

Jock MacSprog,

23/07/2008 12:10:39
Its increasing looking like John Collins did pretty well last summer bringing in the players he did with a budget of NIl and no support from this weak board. Its also looking clear why he got fed up and left. And before anyone bashes his signings, that team did gel very well for a while and manage to beat both Rangers and Celtic convincingly twice and play some pretty attractive attacking football before they had the life sucked out of them
7

Barry R,

23/07/2008 12:12:26
Does anyone know any more detail about yesterday's game? I know it was only a 'mixed' team and against Montrose, but good to see them finally getting a few goals.
8

Al Branesh,

23/07/2008 12:14:14
MIXU WE DO TRUST YOU,
IT'S PETRIE WE DONT,

Hearts are 16/1 to get relegated this term,

great bet in my op.
9

Al Branesh,

23/07/2008 12:14:55
barry all details on hibby bounce
10

BRUHibs,

23/07/2008 12:16:28
4 - you wrote Here lies the problem with Hibs.

No debt.

No ambition.

Where did this land Hearts last season?
11

Neutral Observer,

23/07/2008 12:18:26
#8 AB

Hearts will not get relegated when there is the likes of Hamilton, St Mirren and Inverness in the SPL. They may even get an early season lift from having a new manager and be in the top 6 straight away. Its lucky they don't have to face their bogey teams Gretna and Dunfermline.
12

Phil MaGlass,

Holland 23/07/2008 12:20:03
Whats the problem,I thought we were playing against 11 trialists on thursday.
13

johnandyoko,

23/07/2008 12:20:28
#4 and #5 well your mans new training regime says it all regarding real issues, simple passes and exercise, it's the way forward, why has no one else thought of that? what a genius he must be, looks like the whole of the SPL will be shi44ing bricks at the prospect of facing his team. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha FOOLS

>idiots dressed as footballers
>loads of debt
>loads o shouting at training
>no ability to make three passes and keep the ball in play
>thin hairy clown posing as manager
>only braindead fantasisers want to renew season tickets

etc,etc
14

Neutral Observer,

23/07/2008 12:21:01
David van Zanten was 'snapped up'. 'Wot Mr Hardie, not 'David van Zanten, the former St Mirren star, was snapped up'?
15

Talk o' the Toun,

23/07/2008 12:21:02
Agree with MIXU time to judge is when signings made(or not made as the case may be) .However as long as a % of Hibs fans think like #2 Alberkid (ie measuring yourself against a HEARTS team that was in 'self destruct' mode) then you will be perseved as;

1. Sharing the ambition of your board.
2. Suffering from an 'inferiority' complex.
16

Last furlong,

23/07/2008 12:21:51
IN MIXU WE TRUST lol

altogether now
Relegation to the hibees, relegation to the hibees,....
the hibs are goin down
17

Dublin 7 Hibby,

Myles away from Dublin 23/07/2008 12:22:31
Mixu mon ami,

The problem is not just the money. Mogga worked wonders with probably less money because he 1) knew how to evaluate a player (Wenger-like) and 2) had contacts who delivered potential signings. Mixu, you appear to have neither - and this is what's worrying
18

Bigwull,

edinburgh 23/07/2008 12:23:22
11 you forgot to mention Hibs in that statement regarding teams likely to be relegated, I certainly would always include them amongst that group
19

Who?,

23/07/2008 12:24:48
#2 thats very good!

Trusting mixu and Petrie to recruit good players is like asking one of the lambrini girls who sit in the cowshed stand to lift their knuckles off the floor- never happen!
20

Neutral Observer,

23/07/2008 12:25:00
#13 johnthedyke

Discipline is the answer. Coaches must all wear leather from now on and carry a big whip! Any player complaining will have their finger nails ripped off with a pair of pliers.
21

hibbyspurs,

23/07/2008 12:27:48
Mixu will be given time as hes only been in the job half a season.

I've said all along that whilst I'm getting more disgruntled by the day at the lack of activity I dont hold Mixu responsible for this, I await with eager anticipation the players we will sign who will stengthen the squad...... ( with some of the current crop he wont need to look to far to achieve this though)....

The problem is now squarely with the board IMO.... I am sick & tired of the board trotting out the "framework, constraints, prudence" lines... They're starting to sound like Gordon Brown when he was Chancellor... What makes it worse is that its becoming clear that they're getting Mixu to trot this guff out to us and expecting us to swallow it...

My message to the current owners of HFC remains the same, I am grateful & thankful for the work you have done to stabilise te club, give the club a top notch training facility and bring ER into the 21st century but I want to see an ambitious, winning TEAM on the park when I watch Hibs, not the dross that has replaced what could quite possibly hve been one of the best Hibs teams ever...

You have balanced the club by pillaging the playing squad that you were so lucky to be blessed with, you gave the fans one trophy and you think this is enough?

Your wrong, totally and utterly wrong, I want to see exciting, quality players at Hibs and a team built that can challenge not just for cup tournaments but one which may even have a sniff of toppoling the OF....

The time is now for the current ownership of HFC, thanks for everything but either put up & invest in the squad or sell up and let someone who will take the TEAM forward take over......
22

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 12:28:09
#13, "thin hairy clown posing as manager"?????

the thin hairy clown. is that your pet name for it?

23

gods lovechild,

23/07/2008 12:29:30
#8 dont talk utter nonsense ..they have a world class manager with a vast knowledge of the scottish game and full control of the first team
24

Hibernianinc,

23/07/2008 12:42:50
#6

Nonsense. Collins spent £1m on players, the biggest expenditure since McLeish.

Collins walked because he'd lost the dressing room completely, and could see that most of his signings were looking like huddies.

However, he did win us the cup, beating the herts on the way, and for that I shall always be grateful.
25

Neutral Observer,

23/07/2008 12:43:16
The signings at both Hearts and Hibs are almost non existant so far. I think that it is one at each club. However, although the SPL starts in 2 weeks time, the transfer window does not shut till late in August. So plenty of time yet. It just seems worse than usual because Hibs were back training 2 weeks early and Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Falkirk and Motherwell have all made early captures. Snapped up some players in journalist language.

As the song says - 'Have a little patience'
26

Big T,

23/07/2008 12:44:23
"Every Manager is limited"

And Buster is the most limited of them all!
27

Al Branesh,

23/07/2008 12:45:36
6-1 against montrose,
had the rose scored another goal,
memories would have came flooding back
6-2 mixu patt was star man was it hattrick he put away.
6-2 game was full of thrills hibs should have had nine,
bad ref.
28

Al Branesh,

23/07/2008 12:46:24
22
grow up ffs.
29

Al Branesh,

23/07/2008 12:47:28
mixu is going to disclose two new signings on friday,
i know them do you.???????????????????????????
30

Neutral Observer,

23/07/2008 12:48:00
# 26 Big T

What do you think the 'T' stands for?

Phone 0921 999666 and enter into the prize draw. Calls cost £1 plus your service operator cost.

As the teams who entered the InterToto Cup say - 'You have to be in it o win it'. Aston Villa doing well I see.
31

Big T,

23/07/2008 12:48:25
Keep believing boys.

The fact that Iron Rod is tucking away yer dosh to add to his personal fortune is irrelevant in the crusade for FLAIR!

Don't look to Saint Thomas of Farmer for funds - he seems more interested in disposing of his money to Vatican good causes to buy into the old Pearly Gates season ticket!
32

Big T,

23/07/2008 12:49:59
#30

TRUTH
33

CPWilliam,

23/07/2008 12:50:19
#21 - Can we really blame the board. The players sold haave commanded much better wages elsewhere than we could afford to pay them. We are in a much better position now and whilst I would love to see some good players come in, it has to be within the structure currently in place. A reduced sized squad should enable higher wages to be paid. btw Mowbray had a good eye for a player but he signed a few duffers too. He also gave Zibbi an extended contract just prior to 'fulfilling his ambitions' elsewhere.
34

Neutral Observer,

23/07/2008 12:50:49
#29 AB

As the two Hearts supporters walkin on London Road said: 'Fill us in'.

My guess is Yantorno and Keenan.
35

Private Pike,

23/07/2008 12:53:50
I have been disappointed by Mixu since he took over. He has shown no ability to set the team up effectively. He has not yet managed to pick a midfield that can operate as a unit and supply Fletcher with a decent service. He says tht its like some Hibs supporters want him to sign anyone regardless of whether they improve the team.

Two points on this.
1. No Hibs supporter thinks any such thing. It's just a cheap shot from Mixu.
2. What about Nish, Rankin, Zarabi.

He must think that they improved the team. I don't.

I'm sick to death about hearing that Benji is too lazy and should be sold. If there is a problem with Benji we should be told. Otherwise the idiots gather, make up their stories and call for a quality player to be out the door.

I bought my ST early doors and I am having serious doubts about how clever a move that was.

If Mixu proves me wrong I'll be delighted.

36

Al Branesh,

23/07/2008 12:54:16
One is correct ?
37

Hibernianinc,

23/07/2008 12:57:11
#31

BeLIEving is for herts muppets.

Just when is Rod planning his dash to S America? I'd have thought about 12 months ago when we had £12m cash sloshing about.

How's that stand of yours coming along?
38

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

23/07/2008 12:58:18

Al Branesh, telling people to grow up and then starting a guessing game, what a tool.
39

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

23/07/2008 12:59:55
#17
Been saying that for weeks and agree totaly.

#21
Agree as well this is down to the board. It would not break the bank nor put us millions in debt to increase the current wage structure by a couple of grand.

And as i have said before just because you increase the wages of some players does not mean everyone gets a pay rise. You pay the wages for the players that deserve them. Same as in most professions work the better you are at your job the more money you get Simple.
40

hibbyspurs,

23/07/2008 13:00:19
#36

Jonathan Johannson? Fat chance..... Although a signing like this would bring me down off my high horse about the board for a week or two.....
41

Big T,

23/07/2008 13:01:40
#37

The same as YOUR stand - going no where in the current credit crunch!

By the way Iron Rod doesn't have to dash off anywhere. He is tucking the money away nicely all from his East Lothian luxury mansion - right under yer eyes!
42

hibbyspurs,

23/07/2008 13:05:58
#33

YES... we can blame the board.... I'm not asking them to go down the "boom or bust" route here....

I'm just asking that a serious uinvestment is made in the plaing squad to ensure that Hibs are callenging for European football at the very least each season.

I honestly think that there are people in authority at Easter Road who think another batch of Riordan, O'connor, Brown, Thomson's are just around the corner, its just not likely to happen.... We were so fortunate to be blessed with that talent from our own youth structure and the board made a killing in the transfer market to pay off the clubs debt....

What will we as supporters be left with? 1 League cup, a financialy stable club and most importantly of all MID TABLE MEDIOCRITY for years to come..... So yes I can blame the board.....
43

hibbyspurs,

23/07/2008 13:13:02
#39

Yep & I agree with the statement about wage rises... If a guy doing the same job as a colleague gets a pay rise because hes performing well does that mean the other boy has to get it as well?

Employee: Here boss, you gave Smithy ower there a pay rise yesterday, I do the same job as him so I want one too.

Boss: When your doing as good a job as he is then we'll discuss it, until then you'll remain on your current wage. I suggest you prove to me that your worth more money like he has before coming in here making demands.

How hard a concept is that to grasp? Obviously the Hibs board think we as fans cant possibly grasp that ohhh so complex issue otherwise they wouldnt try spoon feeding us the line "that if we raise one players wages through the threshole, they'll all be banging the door down for more money"..... Utter nonsense.
44

hibbyspurs,

23/07/2008 13:14:15
meant "threshold" not "threshole"...... ooooerrrrr
45

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 13:14:34
#38, yes i was filling my underwear at that one too.
46

We Own The Capital,

23/07/2008 13:16:51
#4

Don't buy into this hibs have no debt rubbish.

They're mortgaged up to their eyeballs, with mortgages to at least 2 different financial organisations, not forgetting various securities to STF & RP's holding company and also to the saviour STF alone.

This coupled with the news about the financing 'IF' ER's new legoland stand gets built will see the wee teams debt rise to between £12/15M.

Hibs, no debt! - That's nearly as funny as the hibs goalkeeping coaching.
47

hibbyspurs,

23/07/2008 13:26:37
#46

I see that now all is well in Gorgie... we're going to get away from Hobonomics and straight ont Yamonomics instead.....

£12/15m? Utter nonsense.
48

Lenny,

23/07/2008 13:34:12
# 21

Excellent comments Hibbyspurs. Pretty much sums up my feelings too.
49

jmcmil,

23/07/2008 13:38:06
#21&48
Count me in as in agreement with you
50

Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 13:38:34
CJ

Again you show your weakness. On a hibs thread slagging of hibees for discussing their club. Is that the only way you can make yourself feel better? It shouldn't be, the 3rd place that is rightfully yours will be back soon. G

Go away you parasite.

51

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

23/07/2008 13:40:18
#43 HibbySpurs

That is pritty much what I said when Deek was asking for more money before he went to smeltic. He deserved a wage rise and from what I heard he only wanted £2k more per week to stay, We should have given him it. That does not mean every player his age should then all get the same.

Its quite simple, you base your wage structure on perfomance and the amount of games your are playing for the club. Also bonus for goals scored, Clean sheets etc.

This would result in keeping your best players happy and that in turn would mean more cups more europe which would then mean bigger gates better sponsers etc etc. This would also show young players what rewards can be had for good players who want to make it at Hibs.

I will put my soap box away now :-)
52

We Own The Capital,

23/07/2008 13:42:51
#47

I should have, of course, said that the wee teams debt 'could' rise to between £12/15m.

It will, of course, never reach those levels.

This is because, of course, RP will have sold any players which could possibly bring trophies to ER in order to keep the debt down.

Such is the level of ambition at ER.

Such is the disdain they show to the wee team supporters.
53

jmcmil,

23/07/2008 13:43:02
#51
Don't put that box away so quickly - you had a good point to make
54

Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 13:43:37
Tic toc

have to agree with you there bud.

Why is it not that simple in the real world??
55

Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 13:46:15
Post away happy jambos

you have a diversion from your own travails.

Lap it up.

New manager in 2 months?
56

hibbyspurs,

23/07/2008 13:50:58
47, 48 & 51

Lenny I sort of guessed you had the same views as me on this but there is now a growing amount of voices who are declaring their disenchantment with the way the playing side is being dealt with at ER....

I believe that club officals from both Hibs & Hearts probably read some of the boards on sites such as this to "get a feel" for what the fans are thinking.

After all its not hard to spot the real fans on sites like this from the n0bbers who co-exist on them....

The more Hibs supporters who come out and make statements telling the board that all is not well the more the club will have to listen and re-asses its priorities because without the supporters turning up then the whole thing will eventually come crashing down

The one crumb I take from this article is that the first paragraph alludes to the fact that the club are prepared to aknowledge that the fans are unhappy even although its not a direct quote....

Makes me think someone somewhere might be listening, although it could just be David Hardie sadly......
57

Mug,

23/07/2008 13:51:06
#46 what a load of barry white! how long did it take you to make up that rumour!
58

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 13:51:13
Great seeing the hibs fans making all these jibes at Hearts, especially small kn0b at #8.

It really shows that the positive news surrounding the finer Edinburgh team is bothering the hobos.

hobos - concentrate on hib's affairs - constantly making digs at Hearts will not be able to alter the truth. Hearts are on the up, hibs are gash.

As for Hearts being 16/1 to be relegated, there's a better chance that hibs will - the 1st division beckons for a 1st division squad!!
59

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

23/07/2008 13:53:13
It does pain me to say it but #52 has one point I agree with. Our board have no ambition when it comes to the players on the park.

Off the park we are IMO one of the best run clubs in the country, but that means nothing if success is not on the park.
60

Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 13:55:53
Hallufullapish

nice use of the apostrophe there in "hib's"

and your continual use of exclamation
marks..........you are a bell-end

!!

!


61

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 13:56:06
#57, as long as it took you to keech yourself that it might be true. it might well be.

how would half of you know what goes on at hibs? too busy obsessing about the bigger team.

62

hibbyspurs,

23/07/2008 13:56:15
#52

Ok then, lets go down the same route as you yams like to do whenever someone says Hearts have massive unaccountable debt shall we?

Show me some evidence please, facts, figures, that kind of a thing... Even a link or two to substantiate your ramblings...

However I suspect your just another TT or SERG/ Reily (whatever) who likes to make mischief without having any real facts to back it up........

Eh Much4chos? (I think thats hilaro btw the term "much4achos" is now an unsuitable word)
63

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 13:58:11
#60 You're right, that's my nickname!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
64

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

23/07/2008 14:00:07
#56 Hibby

Again a very good point. I think if the EEN done a pole now on what hibs fans thought of the board the results what shock them.

I truly believe because thay have done a great job in sorting the finances they think that is job done.
IMO it is far from job done. They have laid the foundations but its now time to build on them. However I feel it will make no difference voicing our opinions on here we need to take it right to ER.

65

Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 14:00:51
It is getting a wee bit scary regarding petrie's parsimony. Not sure Mixu could identify a decent player but even if he could would the money be there?

No, it wouldnae.

As much as I hate to give the dirties any ammunition it does look like a truly depressing, uninspiring season awaits.

66

Talk o' the Toun,

23/07/2008 14:03:52
#50 Guiseppe: take it you have been on the lavvy pan for the the last week or so('bricking it')

Re read my post #15 hardly merits your response.

PARASITE....for that to be right i would have to perceive a weakness in Hibs. As i said time to judge is when signings (or lack of confirmed)......i am merely saying it is a weakness to measure yourself against an 'underperforming HEARTS side'

Constructive comment IMO.... what do you think Lenny you said it was OK to post & TOTRALANO(one of the worst full backs i have ever seen BTW)accuses me of being a ... parasite?
67

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:04:57
#55 for hibs you mean?
68

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 14:05:31
i empathise about your troubles lads, i think you should 'stand up and be counted'.

good start by the way, the boycott of murrayfield is going well.

:)
69

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:07:05
#66 Don't let Turdolana bother you - he's got a little tadger and vents his frustrations on the hibs thread!!
70

Hibernia,

23/07/2008 14:07:57
Blank the plank posting at #67. He is Hearts Shame amongst other things.
71

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

23/07/2008 14:09:08
#68

Do you know the amount of tickets sold so far??????
72

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 14:10:24
#71, i heard about 9,000

73

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

23/07/2008 14:11:03
#68

While your finding that out get me the attendance for the Hearts v Dunfermline game the other night.
74

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:11:17
#68 Exactly - it good hibs fans are demonstrating against the board.

However, I don't think you should 'stand up and be counted' at Murrayfield as it could be very embarrassing when 5 hibs fans stand up!!!!!!

75

We Own The Capital,

23/07/2008 14:11:26
#68

'stand up and be counted' - Comedy gold!

The Murrayfield boycott has a nice ring to it. Just like their continous Tynecastle boycotts.

And who can forget the famous Hampden boycott on 02/04/06.

Stand up and be counted indeed!
76

Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 14:13:35
Talk o' the tat

I am at a loss. Why would you have to 'perceive' a weakness to be a parasite?? You are a rum fellow.
COuld it not be agreed that calling oppostion fans 'parasites' is completely out of order??

And don't give us that wash about them living of Hearts. Get a grip.

And finally, you have a go at joe tortolano. D'you think that maybe that my user name is a celebration of his shiteness??

Irony is nothing to do with a metal.


77

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 14:13:41
#73, yeah barca...dunfermline...same thing eh? henry or jim hamilton, no diff.

haw haw!!!
78

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:14:07
#70 sssshhhhhhhhhh!! You're a silly little boy
79

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

23/07/2008 14:15:06
It means nothing again its hibs comparing against hearts...............Does this make us better teams NO.

It just means we both have nothing better to brag about than, our ground your ground, our crowd your crowd, etc etc

Really does that make you proud.......cause it makes me feel sick thats all we have to shout about for one of the biggest cities in scotland.
80

Hibernia,

23/07/2008 14:15:06
#68 is that why all the Hearts fans have rushed back to buy season tickets for the coming season, watching all those World Cup Superstars on the way to The Chumpions League Final and World Domination.

Do you honestly think last year it was all Hearts fans at Murrayfield - it was people turning up to watch the Barca players, the fact they were facing Hearts was a pretty irrelevant point really. Funny only player the Barca guys went on about from their 2 matches last season was Barry Robson of Dundee Utd.
81

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 14:15:25
#75, apparently hampden doesn't count. they only had their reserve team, innit?

82

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:16:58
#75 Haha!! And plenty of reserve seats as well.
83

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 14:17:25
#80, "it was people turning up to watch barca players"

yes, quite agree. so why not watch them vs hibs?

84

Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Melbourne 23/07/2008 14:18:29
CJ, Tortolano is one of the worst players ever to pull on a football jersey full stop.
Although i do remember him scoring a rather memorable forty yard free kick in the cup against Stenhousemuir...

On the article, Mixu is right to say he shouldn't just buy anybody. The problem might arise if he CANT buy anybody... The biggest problem i can forsee here is that we have a board who seed themselves against the other SPL clubs in terms of spending. We are constanly being told by Petrie we compete with the other SPL clubs outwith the OF and the 'big' team with an overdraft next door. We are a club with a bigger supporter base than nearly all of them and as such should afford ourselves (no pun intended) the luxury of spending marginally more than them. We are at the present time the third richest club in the SPL and should expend in a similar manner to our means...

The two things just dont add up at the moment.

Also it's funny that Hearts have way more ambition now than they did two weeks ago, that's only judging by the number of Jambo's on this thread bleating on about how we have no ambition...
85

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:18:36
#80 Jealousy gets you nowhere. You never know though, in a few years, hibs might have as much quality as the Hearts squad.
86

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:19:12
#83 A great point that hernia will be unable to answer.
87

We Own The Capital,

23/07/2008 14:19:37
#81 I forget about that.

It was so unfair that the SFA made them play that day.

Still, at least they were the first to wear green.

That must count for something.
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Al Branesh,

23/07/2008 14:20:30
Can see romanov has arrived in germany to order the signing of a striker as long as he gets to pick.
seven managers in three years.
another soon.
89

victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 14:20:51
#86 TH, yep. a case of make the excuse first, think second (if at all).

90

Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 14:21:20
#84

Away to stenhousemuir in the cup 0-2 i believe.
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victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 14:22:53
#87, yep. mind they shunned murrayfield for that semi as well. too much like a hearts home fixture they said.

is that why you're shunning it this times hibbies?

92

Big T,

23/07/2008 14:23:45
#80

All those alleged non Hearts fans seemed to get excited jumping up and down when Hearts scored!

Going bt your deluded thinking half the 58,000 were non Hearts fans...

That means that half the 11,000 will be Hibs fans!

Any way you look at it it is a SQUIRMER for the Hobos.

Hee forkin HA!!
93

Green07,

Edinburgh 23/07/2008 14:23:53
Having read all the messages today l have to agree that RP is the one man who will ruin Hibs, most businesses run the way RP runs Hibs would be out of business by now.

As for Mixu he has to take some blame for the way he has us playing, l`ve never seen a team so tactally poor.....Mixu doesn`t have a clue how to change the way we play during a game as was witnessed in the away leg of the inter-toto cup where the swedes kept putting the ball wide the whole game and our defence was posted missing all game.
94

We Own The Capital,

23/07/2008 14:25:09
#84

"it's funny that Hearts have way more ambition now than they did two weeks ago, that's only judging by the number of Jambo's on this thread bleating on about how we have no ambition"

A typical response from a weeteamer, everything hhas to be compared to the big team.

A bairn with a biscuit behind can tell that hibs have no ambition because if they did they wouldn't sell their talent as soon as the OF flashed their knickers.

Being comparable to us is the only ambition weeteamers have.
95

Hibernia,

23/07/2008 14:25:57
#83 obviously the likes of Ronaldinho and Deco leaving plus the fact it is being screened on Setanta obviously is discouraging people from going.

#86 did you say anything on interest.....nah didnt think so.
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victorian of gorgie ,

23/07/2008 14:27:21
#95, pfffffffffffwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

coffee all over screen.

97

Lenny,

23/07/2008 14:28:56
# 56

Yeah HibeeSpurs, I was willing to give the board the benefit of the doubt but patience has most certainly run out. Its not even patience about this season, its patience where we let ALL our assets be sold for 'the benefit of the club'.

Now all this I could understand, we were in debt and I agreed with reducing it. We were training in muddy school pitches so I agree with the training ground.

But now we have a very average team on the park and NEED investment. I trusted that if that was the case the board would deliver. They still may, and I will be very happy to look stupid if so.

I am getting my kill at the Jambo's on here though. All the very ones that have such an issue with Hibees commenting on their stories have came out the woodwork. IMO they still have a weaker team than us, and that really is saying something!!!!
98

We Own The Capital,

23/07/2008 14:29:19
#95

Funny how the game showing on Sultana never discouraged many loyal Hearts fans last year.

Still, being the first to wear green must make up for your lack of silverwear.
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Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Melbourne 23/07/2008 14:30:52
VIctorian, Yes Barcelona Vs Hearts had a crowd of 58,000 and this year Barcelona against Hibs will have a crowd a great deal smaller than that. As any money made from this tie goes directly to UNICEF to help in the battle against the AIDS epidemic in infancy throughout Africa and the developing world I am glad that you are taking an active part in boycotting this game cos Hibs are playing. The money raised last year, where i am sure a reasonable portion of the crowd were Hibs fans there to see barca, helped contribute towards an extremely worthy cause will not be raised to the same extent this year. At least you can use this sad fact to prove what a big team you are eh?

Big team

Small Conscience

100

The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:31:30
#88 so you hope. will make you feel better about hibs
101

Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 14:32:14
#98

won a trophy more recently than youse so shut it.
102

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

23/07/2008 14:32:37
#95

I don't think this should make a difference to real fans. This is probably a once in a life time chance to see your team play one of the worlds best teams.

I am travelling up from near portsmouth tomorrow to watch the game as Setanta would not be the same.

To be honest your better just letting the hearts fans have there moment cause yet again its a compare moment and nothing really to be worried about.

GGTTH
103

Hibernia,

23/07/2008 14:33:47
#98 funny I dont recall seeing the Hearts v Barca game on Setanta last year.......I may be mistaken and it was but I certainly dont think it was.
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Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

23/07/2008 14:34:56
#94,

It must be so nice to know your team has so much ambition it refuses to take a fee for players that make the long journey To Ibrox via Norway or WIgan, or just leaving, rather than making money for yourselves...

Utter plank...
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The Hallucinist,

23/07/2008 14:35:28
#95 Hernia - a lot more interesting than your posts.

That's the difference - Setanta show pre-season friendlies between good teams.