Help Sitemap Home Skip Navigation Contact Us Disability Statement

 
 
Monday, 6th October 2008 Change Date

Premium Article !

Your account has been frozen. For your available options click the below button.

Options

Premium Article !

To read this article in full you must have registered and have a Premium Content Subscription with the Edinburgh Evening News site.

Subscribe

Registered Article !

To read this article in full you must be registered with the site.

Mixu knew Hibs would toil against Elfsborg



Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image

Published Date: 07 July 2008
MIXU PAATELAINEN today insisted no-one should rush to judge Hibs following their InterToto Cup defeat by Swedish side IF Elfsborg.
The Easter Road boss appeared bemused by the reaction in some quarters to a 2-0 loss which leaves the Edinburgh club's hopes of making progress in the competition hanging by a thread.

But today Paatelainen claimed those who were quick to condemn his players had simply ignored the warnings he had posted before the match, that his side would find it tough in what was their first game of the season against a team riding high in the Allsvenskan.

He said: "I half expected what happened. That's why I was so strong in my comments in the couple of weeks before the game. I knew it would be difficult facing a quality team in our first game.

"I knew we wouldn't be ready, match fitness, the tactical side, the way we want to move and pass, everything. It takes time and people don't understand that."

Paatelainen, however, defended his decision to enter the competition in the first place. He said: "I know people will ask why we bothered. We did so to get very, very tough matches, to be tested and to learn from them.

"If you beat someone by five or six goals the supporters are delighted, everything is rosy. But that gives you a false picture, you learn nothing. If people think pre-season matches should be goal-fests they are not on the same wavelength as me.

"If you want to be successful during the season you cannot do that.

"I think we have a fantastic pre-season, terrific matches, great tests in the likes of Barcelona, Middlesbrough, Wigan and these two games against Elfsborg. They will test us, how solid we are, how well organised and if there are any slip-ups they'll punish us.

"I was speaking to the Elfsborg coach (Magnus Haglund] after the game and he was telling me they have been building that team for five years and he reckons this season is the best they have been, he's very happy with the way they play. It takes time but I think if we were to meet a team such as Elfsborg during our season when we are playing at our best then it would be very even."

Despite the defeat, Paatelainen insisted he was pleased with many aspects of his team's performance although it was evident his players began to tire in the final 20 minutes against a side which is midway through their season.

He said: "In the first half I felt we passed the ball surprisingly well. There was a sharpness I didn't expect in our first game and I was pleased about that. We had some good moves.

"Make no mistake, though, there was also plenty of stuff we can improve on and that's why we wanted to play such games.

"It's all part of our preparation as our aim is to be ready for the first SPL game away to Kilmarnock on August 9."

The full article contains 516 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
Page 1 of 1

  • Last Updated: 07 July 2008 12:01 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

Gorgie's Finest,

07/07/2008 12:04:02
"Paatelainen insisted he was pleased with many aspects of his team's performance"

Hibs fans Ive spoken to who were at the game have not said a word about any aspect being pleasing....Is mixu seeing something 7000+ fans have missed?

"It's all part of our preparation as our aim is to be ready for the first SPL game away to Kilmarnock on August 9."

So is this Mixu now saying the Intertattie was only beng used like a pre season friendly? Hibs didnt really want to win it? sounds like excuses from an inept manager...
2

Prince Sanjay - Kenny`s son,

07/07/2008 12:06:11
I can understand the lack of fitness/match sharpness, but talking about tactics, movement and passing is a bit beyond the pale. Are they not the same team as last year? Presumably Mixu dispenses with one years tactics and replaces them with a brand new set for the start of the season. I know that footballers can be pretty thick at the best of times, but does Mixu intend to imply that they need to relearn how to pass a ball before the new season starts?
3

,

07/07/2008 12:06:34
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
4

Hibby Heapy,

07/07/2008 12:09:50
We were gash yesteday' simple as that! You have to ask whey we are entering such a competiton at this point of the year when all we do is tarnish our proud european history, not to mention damage Scotland European co-efficent.

We should leave well alone.
5

Gorgie's Finest,

07/07/2008 12:15:03
#3 DUBS

You know we'll have our bits of banter and digs, but seriously, Mixu could have and should have prepared the team a lot better. I agreed with Lenny earlier and with others about match fitness etc, but a week or 2 weeks earlier back with a couple of bounce games in that time is what should have happened. Why bother to enter the tournament if your'e not going to make the effort? or did Mixu read the situation so badly and thought "Ahh its only elfsborg"

I read the match reports and have spoke to a couple hibbys and all say same as yourself only Fletcher looked interested along with possibly Shiels...

I wouldnt get you hopes set too high about players arriving especially not top quality...its never happened yet, you know and i kow Petrie will not spend the money or even pay the wages a quality player would cost.

And that conveyor belt of talent is slowing down, you cant keep producing your thompsons/browns/riordans forever, every team has its good spells of producing a bunch of talent then it dries up for a while.
6

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

07/07/2008 12:23:24

Thats what happens when you sign defenders from Gretna and St Mirren Mixu.
7

Neutral Observer,

07/07/2008 12:23:52
Mixu might also have said: 'Brian Kerr brings a quality to the team recognised by the coaching staff, if not by the fans'. 'Rankin was bought for a specific role and we have yet to see the best of him'. 'Colin Nish has been struggling with an injury in pre season training - he seems to see red before his eyes often'. 'Finally, Chris Hogg will one day captain England'.
8

Old Reekies Big Team,

07/07/2008 12:28:08
HA HA and HA
9

,

07/07/2008 12:29:47
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
10

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 07/07/2008 12:35:41
The flair team fails again against one of the powerhouse teams of Europe.

HA HA HA
Numpties
Mon The JT'S
11

Neutral Observer,

07/07/2008 12:41:33
9 Dublin

Think you are totally wrong about Shiels. I was at the match (as usual) and he was Hibs best player on the day. He can keep the ball as he beats players and that will usually create space for others. However, surely Mixu must have learned in 7 months that Fletcher is not a player suited to a target man role or lone striker. He needs another to play alongside him and also occupy the defence. Rankin is for sure not that person. Too lightweight and insignificant. Agree that Nish looks lost - waht role is he being given? Its pointless to take your wide player off (Morais) and then bring on a 6ft 3'' beanpole when no ball will come in from wide.
12

Jambo Number 1,

07/07/2008 12:50:20
I'll tell you something. Hibs have some record in the Inter-toto cup!!

13

Smasher,

07/07/2008 12:50:56
No 6

That will be the same Gretna that your lot struggled to beat. You know the club that's now gone? Think before you open your stupid gob.........a55hole. Get back on your own threads and start playing Hunt the manager. It's a wee bit like pin the tail on the donkey made a bit more difficult by the number of donkeys to choose from down in Gorski.
14

,

07/07/2008 12:58:29
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
15

Jambo Number 1,

07/07/2008 13:00:11
"Mixu knew Hibs would toil against Elfsborg"

Agh, yes - this makes everything ok then.

Mixu KNEW, all along - it is Hibs in the inter-toto.

I mean Hibs have a history to defend, oot of Europe before the end of the trades.!!!
16

hibee4life,

07/07/2008 13:00:15
#1,5,8,10,12

GOT A MANAGER YET?
17

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

07/07/2008 13:00:33

13. Whats that got to do with Mixu's signing policy ?
18

hibee4life,

07/07/2008 13:01:02
#15

GOT A MANAGER YET?
19

Jambo Number 1,

07/07/2008 13:04:47
#18

Wow, just because Hibs European adventure started (and finished) on the 6th of July - the rest of us don't start till Augus.

A wee bit touchy today are we?

I mean I don't see why! Only 7000 of you bothered to go after all.
20

the west end general,

07/07/2008 13:05:20
aw come on boys just bend and take it - you have been all over out stories for weeks .
21

Gorgie's Finest,

07/07/2008 13:07:30
#16

If you prefer to get into petty banter and act like a moron and bitter wee child thats just watched his team humped in the intertattie yet again, im sure we can trade insults all day....however if you bothered to read what i had written you would have saw i was actually having a seious chat about football and not one bit of pettyness in my posts....No-one likes a bad loser son...time to grow up before you think about posting again...

Gonna be a long 6 and a half weeks while the schools are still on holiday....
22

Ackey,

07/07/2008 13:18:49
I don't see what everyone is getting worried about....good quote is we from previous is we have till August, which i do believe Mixu is aiming for, the start of the SPL.

Granted yesterday's performance was poor, but it was forseen. But playing non meaningless friendlies might not get what Mixu is aiming for and the intertoto ties does give him that. If we qualified then is a bonus, but he still has JC's dross there and needs to get more of his own players in.

Come December and still keek, then we can start moaning.
23

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

07/07/2008 13:19:14
#16 Well Hibs have a manager, of sorts anyway and just look where it got you. Humped at home by a team that you had never heard off before the draw was made.
24

NYC Hibee,

edinburgh 07/07/2008 13:21:00
I really hope Mixu knows what he's doing as I for one am very worried about the way the team is shaping up.
25

Gordon Smiths 364,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 13:23:36
I think Fletch, Deano & maybe hogg were the only ones interested yesterday, or maybe they knew what their roles where and the rest didn't. Elfsborg are a decent side with 13 compedative games played already this term, they have fitness and the confidence of a side now 14 games unbeaten and only 3 goals conceded in that time, but that is no excuse for our lack of tactics, poor play, disjointed midfield and defence in tatters. We need new players in, no doubt about it, the sooner the better.`
I cannot believe jamboos are on here spouting gash about yesterdays game when they would not have even qualified for it, you can undermine something if you have or could have had better, but you's didn't. This is part of our preseason, come the start of the league we will be sharper and fitter. Hows the star jumps and sack races going boys, getting match fit are they?
26

the west end general,

07/07/2008 13:30:45
#25
even when we were in with a shout of qualifying we decided to decline as it was far too early in the season - as you will no doubt agree now.
only 7,000 there and booing your own players tsk tsk
27

Gordon Smiths 364,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 13:43:20
#26
Player, jeered one of our own players. Not the entire team, not the entire managment or is it miss management or is it missing management, not the owner, one of our players that every Hibby in the world knows is gash.
With Mixu, the press, the supporters and me, all saying it was too early for a competative game was it not a foregone conclusion that we were going to get humpped and a poor turn out was assured?
Still, next year no toto, straight into the eufa cup for someone as early as the start of July, will we see hearts take the challenge then? before you's have even found who the sack race champion is?
28

Mannequin,

07/07/2008 13:45:37
#9 dubby
maybe if you attend games like a true hibs fan, then you can give marks out of ten, now go away to your hearts threads and talk gash again and again and again,
29

,

07/07/2008 13:49:53
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
30

YoungLeithTeam7062,

Sunny Leith 07/07/2008 13:59:51
After having to suffer watching Hibs struggle to get going for most of the match, it was clear to see that the players were not match fit. I was dissapointed with the minority home support in the East stand, who took great pleasure in cheering the substitution of Brian Kerr.Also the "Clown" at the back of the East stand who shouted "Paatelainen you're a disaster waiting to happen" Why doesn't that Clown go along to Tynecastle and watch a Disaster unfold this season.
We the true Hibs fans all know that we expect a better performance than we got, so lets get behind the team not slate the players or the manager !
Also a message for the board, please get behind the manager and give him some cash to bring his own players in ! GGTTH YLT
31

Hi Hi Hibees.....Ha ha ha hearts,

07/07/2008 14:00:22
We were terrible yesterday, nae fight, but I'm still glad I'm no a yam. So if Vlad gets the 95% ownership does he have to publish accounts anymore? Nah, didnae think so , that would be handy eh???

Keep it up Jongleurs FC, with us playing so badly I need a laugh :0)
32

Mannequin,

07/07/2008 14:01:01
107
a heck lot more impressive than the yams,
you lot have a nerve coming on here,
so the dancing champ wants 95%,

SCOTLAND IS STILL LAUGHING AT YOUR MURRYFIELD GAMES IN EUROPE
33

,

07/07/2008 14:07:04
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
34

Gorgie's Finest,

07/07/2008 14:12:50
#33 DUBS

You needing a map and compass, youve lost your way, your on Hibs threads today....

#32

Laughing at Hearts European games at Murrayfield!!! why would that be? laughing because you werent actually in europe..laughing becuase you have yet to play in the UEFA group stages...laughing at 25k+ attendances....and laughing so much your playing barcelona at that very stadium?.....the real laugh will be seeing how many actually turn up....reckon youll get anywehere near the 58,000 that went to last years match?????
35

,

07/07/2008 14:18:20
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
36

Smasher,

07/07/2008 14:47:29
The attraction was to see Barcelona. If you think they turned up to watch your team you are a plum. You content yourself with long punts up the park to your £300,000 rated centre forward...... whats his name again.................oh I, its fat useless b4stard. Get back on the yam thread and have a laugh at this weeks fiasco away doon in gorski at sh1tcastle park.
37

Hibernia,

07/07/2008 14:50:28
Utter rubbish yesterday to be honest, Hogg and Shiels were the best players in urm yellow!

As for those Jambos that are bleating about Hibs getting beaten then lets remind them that even Falkirk would have made the Intertoto cup before Hearts because of league placings.
38

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 07/07/2008 15:00:52
#4. hibs have done nothing in Europe for over 30 years, and even then, much of hibs "great history" involved getting put out of Europe in the 1st round by the likes of Leeds and Liverpool. Apart from that some moderate runs in what was at the time an invitation tournament such as the Fairs Cup hardly qualifies as "great history".

hibs "great history" didn't do much to stir up the hobo fans yesterday did it? under 8,000 in attendance, what a disgrace!
39

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 07/07/2008 15:06:28
#36. Hearts have proved how many fans we can get at games at Murrayfield against other opposition, even against rubbish like NK Siroki Brijeg on 26.7.06. on a MIDWEEK we had over £28k.

Anyone who was at the Barcelona game knows how many Hearts' tops and scarves were being worn, the hobos will be lucky to get over 20k.

Time for you to stop taking the Evostik and just admit that Hearts always have been, are and always will be Edinburgh's biggest, most successful and best supported team.

40

Big T,

07/07/2008 15:07:24
Where's "Muchacho" man? Eh? Eh? Eh?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA - HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Muchacho!

There - that's better!
41

Mannequin,

07/07/2008 15:53:24
Give mr or should i say SIR Romanov 95% and see what the money making gent has in store for the yams?

ggtth
42

Mannequin,

07/07/2008 15:54:17
Huge team hearts so they are.
gigantic.
43

Mannequin,

07/07/2008 15:54:59
Massive so they are.
44

Mannequin,

07/07/2008 15:57:33
biggest in gorgie thats for sure.

look at their signings this season.
check the managerial prospects.
no body with sense is even going for interview.
the hearts are gigantic.
45

Big T,

07/07/2008 16:10:03
#41,42,43,44

Could you not have typed all out at one time?

Or was it too mentally challenging for you?
46

Johnny Jambo,

07/07/2008 16:11:45
#16 - I think a better question might be, Have you?????
47

,

07/07/2008 16:30:18
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
48

Smasher,

07/07/2008 16:30:46
No 39

The only thing it proved was that your pox ridden dump of a rusty pink bus shelter does not meet the european standard for a football stadium. Having to rent a rugby park and have it a third full. How embarrassing. Got a new manager yet? I heard the bloke who currently runs the Travel lodge at Gilmerton has handed in his CV so an announcement is on the cards. He's a whizz with a fax machine, does what he's told, can't speak a word of Lithuanian and is ugly to boot. Sounds like the ideal man for the hertz job.
49

Mannequin,

07/07/2008 16:41:58
47 yes
ure a bloon.
50

Big T,

07/07/2008 16:45:43
#49

A "bloon"?
51

Big T,

07/07/2008 16:47:22
#48

"embarrassing"???

106 years! Now THAT'S embarrassing!!!
52

,

07/07/2008 16:47:46
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
53

the west end general,

07/07/2008 17:02:12
#48
your losing it smasher .. if you cant take it then but out son ! your quick to come over to the bright side with your wit and wisdom but you start greeting when you get some ! diddums x
54

the west end general,

07/07/2008 17:09:14
36
ok smashy 'The attraction was to see Barcelona. If you think they turned up to watch your team you are a plum'
so you will get the same attendance?
55

Mannequin,

07/07/2008 17:49:18
Good one now im mixu 62,
dublin the hibbyfans have told you where to go,
so i notice you crawl up the yams,
you are one big lon chaney,
or is it a brace n bit.
56

,

07/07/2008 17:58:15
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
57

andyhibee2485,

07/07/2008 18:11:29
Not too concerned about this result in itself, all this garbage about the Swedish league being weaker than the Scottish. Elsborg were clearly a technically superior team to hibs.

What concerns me is the complete lack of transfer activity then our weaknesses are so evident: WE HAVE NO MIDFIELD. Murray is a good defensive midfielder then we have Kerr, Rankin, Chisolm etc.

I see good midfielders such as Kerr(mark) signing for Aberdeen, Nicholson has gone down south and Flood has resigned on loan for Dundee United. Why are Hibs not pursuing these players when our central midfield needs a complete overhaul!
58

cabbage&ribs,

07/07/2008 18:18:55
#57 couldn't agree more, poorest hibs side in a while. nae midfield, too much dross thanks to mr collins and tight wad rod hiding our cash from the manager.better wake up soon or long season ahead.
59

huck the fibs,

07/07/2008 18:35:33
well done last night!
60

cabbage&ribs,

07/07/2008 18:41:26
#59 cheers mate,huck the fearts.
61

Roy of the Rovers,

07/07/2008 18:59:28
I personally did not make the game but listened to it on radio hibs where pathetic i feel it for the 8000 fans who paid £15 or so,
hibs were not ready for a game against a team who have played half a season,
and are second in a good league,
for the gorgie fiathful to come on and pass judgement on hibs makes me laugh out loud,

vladimir has a plan in mind and i dont see it being a positive one for hearts,

the dancing man from lithuania has his head screwed on,

goodnight hearts,
62

Roy of the Rovers,

07/07/2008 19:00:38
(faithful)
63

Roy of the Rovers,

07/07/2008 19:21:24
Lets face it hibs are by no means world beaters,
but we can become stable unlike the gorgie mob,
who sold their souls to the dancing champ,


LOL.
64

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

07/07/2008 19:25:10
Instead of taking a saltire on their trip to Iceberg, maybe a white flag would be more appropriate for the Hobos.
65

JohninIreland,

Anywhere 07/07/2008 19:39:28
Bla Bla Bla Mixu Bla Bla Bla
66

thommo1875,

07/07/2008 20:00:20
We are not out of the intertoto YET, i still believe the Hibs can turn it around, c'mon the hibees.......
67

HeartsNo1,

mid calder 07/07/2008 20:07:39
No66 words fail me :)
68

Neutral Observer,

07/07/2008 20:14:15
#57 & #58

One thing that concerns me re the midfield is, like Collins and Craig, Mixu and Park have their favourites that get played regardless. Lewis Stevenson must be totally disillusioned when he sees the likes of Kerr and Rankin getting a game ahead of him. I would not play Stevenson at left back as he is too small for that, but in the midfield his energy, tackling ability and ability to pass the ball puts him well ahead of Rankin in my book. Kerr will surely have to leave unless he sits out his contract.
69

Granton Gadgie,

Still getting closer 07/07/2008 20:30:16
BANG! Hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
No wonder Mixu looks like a bulldog chewing a wasp.
70

Weel Kent Jambo,

07/07/2008 20:41:02
#68 Maybe it's no Mixu and Park. maybe it's the message the carrier pigeon brings in, Petrie being too mean to invest in a fax machine.

#66 A Hibbee beLIEves? heard it all now on these threads!! How many goals have the Elfs lost at home this season. How many have you scored in your last 6 games?
71

Dave the jambo fae Burnley.,

Burnley 07/07/2008 20:59:11
Well done you Hobos,i'll give you credit ,you are always good for a laugh. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
72

bring them on,

07/07/2008 21:25:08
Aye Mixu, right you are.

Don't judge us when we get cuffed. Do that if we win a game...

Should keep the fans happy for now.
73

Pele,

07/07/2008 21:59:14
Is this a joke within a joke!
....................................

That fans of hearts have the neck to slag-off hibs!
I'd say back to prep school for you hearts fans!
.....................................
74

billy orange,

07/07/2008 22:05:11
ha ha ha big mixu knew
75

billy orange,

07/07/2008 22:06:28
everybody humps the hibs humps heehaw muchachos
76

mcaitchi,

hibs 07/07/2008 22:36:19
#74 & 75# - Take your Name and stick it - you sound like a kids lollipop !!! prob a weegie peado ru ??
77

billy orange,

08/07/2008 00:40:02
Meanwhile, Hearts were due to take their place at European football's most prestigious table today as the continent's top clubs convene in Geneva to form the board of the new European Club Association.

Along with Newcastle United, the Tynecastle side are the new inductees to a group previously recognised as the elite G14 forum. Hearts' representative in Switzerland is Mindaugas Nikolicius, a financial consultant from the club's parent company, Ukio Bankas Investment Group.

He will take part in an initiation that will see Hearts join illustrious European sides such as Real Madrid, Manchester United and AC Milan as part of a new association to protect the interests of top clubs.

Elsewhere hibs where getting hummped in the intertoto for the third time
78

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 08/07/2008 13:34:39
Elfsborg

HA HA HA

Come up to Valhala and watch one of the elite teams of Europe.

MON THE JT'S

Elfsborg !!!!!!!!!

HA HA HA

It just gets funier all the time.

Mixu knew you were going to get humped

Elfsborg

OH MA SIDES

GIRUY

 

Comment on this Story

 

In order to post comments you must Register or Sign In

 
 
 
  

 
 


Sister Newspapers:
Press Complaints Commission

This website and its associated newspaper adheres to the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. If you have a complaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then contact the Editor by clicking here.

If you remain dissatisfied with the response provided then you can contact the PCC by clicking here.