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Experts check lie of the land for new Forth bridge design



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DESIGN work on a new Forth road bridge has moved out into the Forth estuary itself this month with the appointment of a marine investigations contractor.
Glover Site Investigations Ltd has been handed a £2.1 million contract to carry out marine investigations in the estuary over a ten-week period starting this week.

Marine investigation teams will execute the works along the line of the proposed
new bridge crossing to develop a detailed picture of ground conditions beneath the sea bed and shoreline in key locations.

Working from two barges, a team of up to 25 specialists will drill ten boreholes around the proposed base of the southern tower and approach piers, six in the vicinity of Beamer Rock – the proposed site of the central tower – and seven at the northern tower and approach piers.

The investigations will provide information about geology beneath the seabed, and will inform decisions about the location and type of bridge foundations to be used in the crossing.

Lawrence Shackman, Transport Scotland's project manager, said: "A significant amount of work is taking place at the moment in the vicinity of the crossing to glean vital inform-ation which will feed into the design of the bridge and its approach roads."





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1

Farky,

Edinburgh 30/05/2008 14:11:54
Still think a tunnel would be best option.
2

Bravetart,

30/05/2008 20:30:43
Tunnel not bridge, who got the backhander to pass the idea of a bridge rather than tunnel?
3

CRAGman,

31/05/2008 00:27:54
A new bridge will be a real blot on a very famous landscape - a real monstrosity by the looks of it. And at such a huge cost that many other areas won't get any transport improvements for years as a result.
4

Vic,

Edinburgh 02/06/2008 12:02:59
#3 People can come to different conclusions without being dishonest. Are forum comments libel or slander? Not sure.
5

Heartfelt,

EDINBURGH 03/06/2008 21:14:54
I'm not a geologist but even I know that a tunnel under the Forth would be extremely risky. The various sea-bed strata cause great movement and stresses on a tubular structure and subsidence is the norm. I wouldn't be comfortable driving through a Forth tunnel.
6

Al D,

South Queensferry 04/06/2008 12:17:49
Land and sea surveys full steam ahead! still no environmental/community surveys as promised. These negative factors will obviously have no influence on the position of the crossing, else they would be conducting them in tandem to enable a balanced decision, instead of cheapest A-B route they will no doubt get away with
7

Gaslamp Dark Orchestra2,

EDINBURGH 05/06/2008 17:07:31

Is it just me?
"In Dec 2007 the tunnel option was prohibitive at over £2bn?"

"Transport Scotland has recommended building a bridge. This might cost £1.7bn and take 6 years to build...estimates that a tunnel might cost up to £2.3bn and take up to 7.5 years to build"

Feb 2008: "...work begins on the £4.2bn bridge..."

Does anyone else feel another Holyrood blockbuster looming?

Few will be happier than the Cooncil types with their names on the big piece of marble telling the world how great they were. Oh, and the contractors who will make their millions. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/548057

There's massive public support for a tunnel. C'mon, ye cooncil boys, wouldn't you prefer public support? Or do you really want us all to boo your efforts for the next six years?
8

D Williams,

Queensferry 05/06/2008 17:11:53
Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel Tunnel ......
9

Yankee girl,

USA 06/06/2008 00:43:20
#6, you're half right in that the risk of the tunnel in regards to the geology is more related to the construction, as tunnel boring is very susceptible to risk under certain geotechnical conditions. As for stresses on the tunnel itself after it's built, those could - and should - be accounted for in the design.
10

D Williams,

Looking out to the Forth as I type..... 06/06/2008 13:00:58
A "tunnel" does not necessarily have to be "underground" - there are several immersed tunnels built throughout the world.

http://www.ita-aites.org/cms/407.html

To quote from the web-link above:

"Immersed tunnels......present a feasible alternative to bored tunnels at a comparable price, and they offer a number of advantages, such as:

Immersed tunnels do not have to be circular in cross section. Almost any cross section can be accommodated, making immersed tunnels particularly attractive for wide highways and combined road/rail tunnels".
11

D Williams,

Still enjoying the view..... 06/06/2008 13:15:30
The decision NOT to build a tunnel (whether immersed or bored) should not have been taken until the current investigations re the sea bed have been completed. What ignoramus made that decision......
12

D Williams,

Sitting on the sea-front at South Queensferry 09/06/2008 14:49:05
just seen that bleeding car again (reg SO1) and it looks as though Provost Grubb has sole use of it, ferrying him through the streets of Queensferry, although he's not waving at anyone.....
13

Build me a tunnel,

18/06/2008 13:08:52
It's been 3 weeks into a 10 week stint for the marine investigations and the "barges" haven't moved an inch from where they've been at the outset. Gives the impression that this will be the line of the bridge, doesn't it ?

 

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