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Falkirk rally to upend Hearts



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Published Date: 29 December 2007
Falkirk 2
Finnigan 78, Higdon 81

Hearts 1
Palazuelos 28
TWO goals in three minutes consigned Hearts to a seventh consecutive game without victory as Falkirk came from behind to record three points on Saturday.

The inluential Russell Latapy entered the fray to inspire the overhauling of a 1-0 deficit f
ollowing Ruben Palazuelos' first-half header for Hearts. It was the Spaniard's first goal since arriving in Scotland.

The Tynecastle side had dominated the first 45 minutes, however a revitalised Falkirk emerged after the interval and scored twice in a three-minute span late in the game through Carl Finnigan and Michael Higdon. The result leaves the Tynecastle side ninth in the SPL and toiling to cope with the relegation battle that is now upon them.
HEAD TO HEARTS: Ruben Palazuelos, partially hidden right, puts Hearts on top in the first half. Picture: SNS
HEAD TO HEARTS: Ruben Palazuelos, partially hidden right, puts Hearts on top in the first half. Picture: SNS

Hearts, with three changes from the Boxing Day defeat by St Mirren, encountered a Falkirk side which hoped to attack from the kick-off. But the visitors employed an adventurous 4-3-3 formation themselves and quickly began harrying their opponents out of possession at every opportunity.

Falkirk fashioned a half chance on 13 minutes through Dean Holden, although goalkeeper Steve Banks was alert to the danger following Tam Scobbie's flighted free-kick. Then Hearts replied after Michael Stewart intelligently stole possession in midfield. A pass was delivered to Calum Elliot, who opted to shoot rather than supply Andy Driver with the ball despite the winger having a clear view of goal. As Elliot's effort trundled wide, Driver could only lament the outcome.

The game lacked cohesion for most of the first half, however Hearts produced a priceless opener just before the half-hour mark through Palazuelos. Full-back Lee Wallace had galloped forward to force Tim Krul into action and earn a corner. The set-piece wasn't cleared convincingly and when the ball returned to Driver his pinpoint cross was powered into the net by the Spaniard.

The relief was clear amongst both player and supporters as visiting fans rushed to celebrate with Palazuelos behind Krul's goal. The exuberant celebrations irked referee Kenny Clark, though, and a yellow card was quickly issued.

Elliot and Ibrahim Tall combined on 37 minutes to present a one-on-one opportunity to the hitherto ineffective Kestutis Ivaskevicius. Faced by Krul, the Lithuanian steered his shot wide of target.

Hearts' interval lead was thoroughly deserved, for Falkirk had failed miserably to showcase any attacking invention. That would change upon the resumption of play.
PITCH BATTLE: Calum Elliot of Hearts and Falkirk's Gerard Aafjes fight for the ball. Picture: SNS
PITCH BATTLE: Calum Elliot of Hearts and Falkirk's Gerard Aafjes fight for the ball. Picture: SNS

Jack Ross could consider himself fortunate to be cautioned rather than dismissed shortly after the restart for an altercation with Elliot in which the defender appeared to lift a hand. Elliot was enraged and his protests saw him join Ross in having his name taken.

Banks held a low drive from Latapy, the home substitute who was introduced to aid the search for an equaliser, and by this juncture of the match Falkirk were the dominant force. On 78 minutes, they forced parity through Finnigan. From Pedro Moutinho's corner, Higdon's knockdown was rammed beyond Banks by the substitute with the Tynecastle defence static.

Latapy then inspired a second Falkirk goal just three minutes later. He indulged in a mazy run from midfield, past three Hearts players and squared to the edge of the penalty area. Higdon calmly steered the ball into the corner of the net with his left foot to consign the Edinburgh side to a seventh game without victory.

Three points was nothing more than Falkirk deserved on the evidence of their second-half display, but Hearts could only wonder why they capitulated after their own impressive first 45 minutes.

Falkirk (4-4-2): Krul; Ross, Aafjes, Scobbie, Holden; Thomson, Cregg, Arfield, Moutinho; Barrett, Higdon. Subs: Olejnik, Allison, Latapy 54 (for Cregg), Riera, Finnigan 67 (for Barrett), Milne, Mitchell.

Hearts (4-3-3): Banks; Neilson, Tall, Berra, Wallace; Stewart, Zaliukas, Palazuelos; Ivaskevicius, Elliot, Driver. Subs: Basso, Goncalves, Pospisil 80 (for Elliot), Mikoliunas 84 (for Ivaskevicius), Jonsson, McGowan, Beniusis.

Attendance: 6,614.

Referee: Kenny Clark.




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1

Lost in Canada,

29/12/2007 17:07:32
Hang Mad Vlad from the tallest lampost in Edinburgh.What he's doing to Hearts is treason.
2

UrbanFox,

29/12/2007 17:08:39
Q - Whats the difference between Romanov and General Custer ?

A - At least General Custer went down fighting with his troops.

HEY YELLOW, WHILE YOURE DANCING, YOUR BOYS ARE GETTING SLAUGHTERED OUT HERE !!
3

Jambo98,

Edinburgh 29/12/2007 17:12:03
If we are not careful we will go down “but maybe this is what it will take for VR to actually run his business"
Today’s performance sounded okay but why did we not capitalise?
We need a manager...
New coaching staff...
And to get rid of some of the second class players who are not worthy of wearing a maroon shirt. ("I bet the legends are turning in there graves")
We need a louder voice from the heads of our supporters clubs, Remember the days we all wanted rid of Robinson!!
I think we need to remember that in top flight football the club is nothing without the fans!!!
4

Davieboy,

Edinburgh 29/12/2007 17:12:05
Its bad enough going through this with that plum in charge but the real loser here is Scottish football.
5

Mastermind.,

29/12/2007 17:15:45
HEARTS outclassed in the second period by falkirk, 1735 hearts fans invade falkirk,things look bleak,
where do they go from here, who's next?
questions needing answered.
6

victor ian,

29/12/2007 17:17:09
frail mouthing off in the morning papers about how he will never walk away because 1) he can't afford to and 2) he's not a quitter.

cobblers. 1) frail you'll easily get another job and 2) just tell vlad you're off and you're going to spill the beans.... hey presto, confidentiality payout.

as raymond dodds said in the daily ranker phone-in, frail isn't helping the situation by continuing to act as a stooge.

just go frail. go now. kick the other 2 idiots in the nadgers very hard as you say goodbye.

7

Davieboy,

29/12/2007 17:18:59
The way things have been going on at the club, well i think its time to do what Romanov would do. Get rid of him. Romanov that is. Practice what you preach
8

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

29/12/2007 17:22:29
Only Utd up next in the next match who we couldn't beat even if we were doin ok.

Utter disgraceful result again although a better performance, this is going to go on and on until these buffoons get tae France.

18 matches to go until the seasons end. Can't wait but just can't see us getting another win in that sequence

relegation, we can come back stronger hopefully
9

The Falkirk Bairn,

29/12/2007 17:23:42
Well done Falkirk. Hearts £40 million in debt, victor will you buy Hearts.
10

The Falkirk Bairn,

29/12/2007 17:26:34
Vlad is worth £120 million. Hearts £40 million in debt. This idiot should pack up and run. That is what i would do.
11

The Falkirk Bairn,

29/12/2007 17:27:52
300 Hearts tickets unsold, Heart fan accuses me of not going to game. WHAT??
12

Vlad Magic,

29/12/2007 17:42:46
I wasnt at the game and have to go by Donaldson and co for info but today sounded very encouraging from what I heard. We dominated in the first half and should have been 2 or 3 up. Elliot bless his socks had a good game and Wallace was star man. 2nd half though was a different story.

Substitutions came to late by all acounts lead to the 2nd goal. Pospisil refused to even get involved in challenges when he came on.

At least the guys put the effort in today and you cant fault them for that. Ref was awfull again.
13

Riley Hamish,

Edina 29/12/2007 17:44:19

Even amongst THE most fervent Jambos......does ANYBODY believe that this crowd of over-paid and over-rated losers could EVER take Hearts to even a safe spot in the SPL???
How bad does it need to get before the penny drops that the solution will ONLY be found by uniting FAN POWER at Tynie? Is there a SINGLE SOLITARY FAN out htere who believes that by leaving it to Romanov, it'll all come good???
Get off yer 4rses on the Planet Zog...get down to earth, and see the problem as it is and NOT as you'd wish it to be......but ffs DAE SUMTHIN'!!!
14

THE BPRENTICE,

29/12/2007 17:45:12
I know he can't sack himself BUT surely Vlad is smart enough not to just blame the players for everything thats gone wrong?

Heard Jim Trainer talk about how 'there won't be much money available to buy players for the Hearts team in the January window' ...

... enough money for a MANAGER's salary - someone that can get the team to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 effectively'...

.... I'd be happy to see Banks in goal for the rest of the season....

...BUT, I hope there IS enough money to buy a Steven Pressley-esque centre back [and make HIM captain] PLUS a mature/comfy-on-the-ball left-back that tries as hard as Robbie on the right and lets have balls enough to play 2 strikers!!

Not sure when Bednar can come back into the fold or if he wants to? I'd like to see him back and playing every week along side a consistent partner.

I'm a bit freaked that we've only won one game from the last eleven but luckily Gretna, St Mirren and Kilmarnock will struggle worse than us - if we win a few games, everything will turn around regarding the relegation chat, which I'm noticing most pundits are relishing talking about.

Its amazing how you can be at a party and one or two people arriving can make a huge difference to the atmosphere? Its also equally amazing how, sometimes, when one or two people leave, the party can turn from being rubbish to being fantastic!

Hopefully the right players will leave in January and the a few crucial signings can be made.
15

Riley Hamish,

Edina 29/12/2007 17:53:37
#12 VLAD MAGIC
You say you weren't at the game, but the referee was awful..........DUH !!!
Only another jambo can make any sense of that one I'll bet.......One win in eleven but it's all down to referees..........I see....that's it izzit?........OK......Fine.....just let me past you and out the door before anything else happens please...........Mad.......Stone F***ing Mad!!
16

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 29/12/2007 17:57:30
#12. You must be a Hibby on a wind up. No Hearts fan taking any crumb of comfort from any source - we were 5 minutes away from 11th until Aberdeen scored!!

Frails 15 out of 15 points, well so far, 0 out of 9!

#14. You seem to want find crumbs of comfort.

At start of season, anything worse than 3rd place was not acceptable, now look where we are. Get real.
17

FFF,

29/12/2007 18:03:36
#12... Big thumbsup for the only genuine laugh I've had on another dismal day for Edinburgh's finest
18

Hibernian fc '' Erin go Bragh '' '' 1875 '',

29/12/2007 18:16:38
Celtic 20 13 4 3 43
Rangers 18 13 2 3 41
Motherwell 20 11 2 7 35
Dundee U 20 9 2 9 29
Aberdeen 20 8 5 7 29
Hibernian 20 7 7 6 28
Falkirk 20 8 4 8 28
Inverness 20 9 1 10 28
Kilmarnock 20 5 6 9 21
Hearts 20 5 5 10 20
St Mirren 19 5 4 10 19
Gretna 19 2 4 13 10
19

CSF,

edinburgh 29/12/2007 18:17:48
#13 - I am with you on this. It is so so tiring listening to all this p1sh excuses coming out of tynecastle and from the fans.

Get vocal - Get active - Get angry, Very angry!!

Get yer 4rse's out at Tynie at next home game and give the board Hell, get out in numbers and be proactive in resolving the clubs position, our position. This is our club.

We need to show the folk who are laughing hard at us that we are not going to accept the way our club is running and, that our voice will be heard.

The supporters clubs really need to lead the way on this. I for one, without question, will protest to the best of my ability outside Tynie and direct my attentions to the board at the next home game. I would hope to see you there also. We need to be recognised, we need TV coverage, We need to be there in numbers.

We can turn it around.
20

Happyhibee1956,

29/12/2007 18:19:10
FAO: Graham H. and yore girlfriend Victoria.

I dont normaly go on a wind up with my Jambo friends, However I seem to remember last year when Johnny Jambo used his crystal ball and warned you all about Mad Vlad and what he was doing to your beloved Tarts and all the grief he was given from yours truely, then, all of a sudden its get the mad git out. hmm.

I also remember that you accused him of being a fake for some reason. ( at least I think it was you. Apologies if Im wrong).

Anyway should you not BOTH get down on your knee's and beg for forgiveness from JJ ( from what I hear old Vickie is used to going on her Knee's at the old PBS toilets ).

On a more serious note, writing what should be done about the submariner will achieve nothing you need to get out there and do something. I'm not happy with what is happening at hearts but know doubt as a hibby I will be told to F#ck off and mind my own business.

Bye give my love to Victoria
21

Alek Ahauf,

29/12/2007 18:25:42
First up Frail saying we can win 5 out of 5, well thats 3 played and 3 losses!!
Then limp wrist Berra, we can win 3 out of 3, wrong again, so who on Monday is going to say we can win our next 2 matches???
Coupled with other pathetic statements like, we will turn it round, we need to stand tall, together, as a team, as friends, as a unit blah blah blah blah please shut the f--- up this is embaressing enough without these stupid statements.
Frail start the ball rolling and quit with whats left of your footballing dignity ( which isnt a lot) maybe then others will follow.
22

mac1888,

29/12/2007 18:29:39
who are the hearts fans going to support next year? hibs or rangers???
23

Aliouskas,

Sunny Dunfermline 29/12/2007 18:34:04
Has anyone noticed that St. Mirren have one game in hand over Hearts?
24

CSF,

edinburgh 29/12/2007 18:41:28
St Mirren have a game in hand over Hearts - It's against Rangers though. Not likely that Rangers would lose 3 points in that match up, at least I hope not.

HEARTS FANS

Get off yer 4rse's at the next home game and Protest!!!

25

Silence of the Yams,

29/12/2007 18:41:44
Both Edinburgh clubs will finish bottom six.
26

CSF,

edinburgh 29/12/2007 18:47:32
# 27

see earlier post 19.

27

Aliouskas,

Sunny Dunfermline 29/12/2007 18:56:34
folk r saying that they r looking 4ward 2 bednar coming back. he'll never be back because hearts said that he was injured for a long spell- he then went 2 w. brom and is suddenly fit again!
1) he was'nt given a game in gorgie when he deserved it
2) hes playing great at w.brom
3)obviously he'll be better payed there too
28

Lost in Canada,

29/12/2007 19:02:44
The way that they are playing lately I doubt they could beet Gretna.....and that's not funny
29

Lost in Canada,

29/12/2007 19:03:00
The way that they are playing lately I doubt they could beet Gretna.....and that's not funny
30

Lost in Canada,

somewhere between here and there 29/12/2007 19:03:22
The way that they are playing lately I doubt they could beet Gretna.....and that's not funny
31

Lost in Canada,

somewhere between here and there 29/12/2007 19:04:12
The way that they are playing lately I doubt they could beet Gretna.....and that's not funny
32

Vlad Magic,

29/12/2007 19:05:44
#15

I have ears and listened to the whole game which funnily enough covers referees decisions. Hearts World is blessed enough to have 2 of the most unbiased commentators ever. If Hearts are crap they say they are crap. If they say the ref is abismal they I will stand by their opinion.

He booked Palazuelos for an "over exuberant" celebration in front of his own fans. He didnt send off Ross for raising his hands when he should have done. Listen im not arguing this any more. My opinion counts just as much as yours whether at the game or not. No. 1 win in 11 is not all about the refs but today it was a contributing factor.

#12 I take huge ammounts of confidence from todays game. As I said above the boys played with passion and gave it there all(something not seen from them in ages). Zaliukas could barley run and should have been taken off well before Latapy went round him for the 2nd. Thats where we are going wrong. Not the players fault (100% today) but the management.

Dont ever accuse me of being anything other than a Jambo you jumped up little cretin. Just cos I cant make games doesn't make me a non supporter!
33

Aliouskas,

sunny dunfermline 29/12/2007 19:06:05
ideal hmfc:
BANKS
NEILSON ZALIOUKAS BERRA GONCALVES

KSANEVICIUS IVASKEVICIUS STEWART DRIVER

KINGSTON

VELICKA
34

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

29/12/2007 19:07:27
My condolances to Phil O'donnells family and friends, stunned at the news. 35 years old and that happens.

Kind of puts things into perspective i think, regardless of what is happening at Hearts
35

Vlad Magic,

29/12/2007 19:10:30
#34 #12 should have been for #16.
36

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29/12/2007 19:13:21
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37

victor ian,

29/12/2007 19:23:20
the sad news this evening certainly does go to show that, no matter how angry or frustrated you are about your football team, there are always events going on in the real world which completely nullify our habit of taking sport too seriously.

it's a tragedy for the good people of motherwell fc and football as a whole, but nowhere near as much a tragedy as it is for phil's wife and family.

38

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29/12/2007 19:29:32
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39

Ancient Hibee,

edinburgh 29/12/2007 19:32:31
You guys don't seem to realise that Lithuanian business and personal bank customers don't give a stuff about Scottish football.His bank is never going to do anything here-it's far too small.Most worrying is that with Kingston going to be missing,other than Velicka,that's your best team.Falkirk were tidy against Hibs and had a lot of the ball but like Rangers today were powder puff.To let them score twice is very poor.
40

THE BPRENTICE,

29/12/2007 19:33:48
16 GrahamH,
_______________________________________________________
You wrote:
#14. You seem to want find crumbs of comfort.
_______________________________________________________

What's wrong with that? Crumbs can be mighty tasty when you're starving!!

We have no entitlement to anything, we need to take our tanking and take each game on its own merits. And either do one of 3 things:

(a) accept things as Vlad provides - and expect the worse
(b) protest then see (a)
(c) all stay away and watch hmfc die off
(d) buy Vlad out ... you got a spare gazillion?

OR (e) accept things as Vlad provides - and hope for the best and enjoy any crumbs we get.
41

THE BPRENTICE,

29/12/2007 19:34:38
My main point fro #14 post stands i.e. a few key players out could make a difference and/or a few players in could also be a catalyst to a decent run.
42

Riley Hamish,

Edina 29/12/2007 19:35:19
#39 VICTOR IAN
Hear, hear Sir.
As both a 'Well fan, and someone who enjoys the usual banter and wind-ups that go on in pages like this, I feel very humble tonight. Humble because, while I was venting off about the troubles and travails of another club, my own club were losing one of its relatively few "greats" at Fir Park.Fir Park fans will remember Phil in his first Motherwell stint as a major driving force in the midfield of the team that won the "Family Final" of the Scottish Cup in 1991, when as a young 19year old, he scored against Dundee Utd.(ironically todays opponents)in what many STILL describe as the BEST EVER Scottish Cup Final.
However, it would be wrong if Phil was remembered simply as a very fine footballer , for such he was, but as a quiet fit young man, devoid of airs or graces and whose major interests in this world lay in his wife, family and friends.
I hope that all in the game will remember him as fondly as he will be at Fir Park (amongst other places I'm sure)but let none of this take away from the reality of Phil O'Donnell, simply a fine young man struck down LONG before his time, and a credit to all who knew him, and to the Scottish Football game,
43

THE BPRENTICE,

29/12/2007 19:43:15
#39 well said victor - what a shocker. Phillip O'Donnell was only 35. Deepest condolences to his wife Eileen and their 4 children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_O%27Donnell
44

Jambo98,

29/12/2007 19:44:47
If we are not careful we will go down “but maybe this is what it will take for VR to actually run his business"
Today’s performance sounded okay but why did we not capitalise?
We need a manager...
New coaching staff...
And to get rid of some of the second class players who are not worthy of wearing a maroon shirt. ("I bet the legends are turning in there graves")
We need a louder voice from the heads of our supporters clubs, Remember the days we all wanted rid of Robinson!!
I think we need to remember that in top flight football the club is nothing without the fans!!!
45

John Gillan,

Loanhead 29/12/2007 19:49:33
Romanov dances while Tynie burns, manager now!
46

mambojambo,

29/12/2007 19:59:37
#46 I agree that we have to clear out a lot of the players. We have a huge squad of inadequate players. We used to have a rock-solid defence - but now we leak soft goals in virtually every match. I like Berra, but he isn't a Skipper - we need strong leadership on the field - and a proper Manager.
47

Taras Shevchenko,

29/12/2007 20:04:12
#39 nice one vic - I agree, somehow, the team you support being in the doldrums doesn't seem to matter much when you consider Phil O'Donnell's family just now.
48

CBJambo,

29/12/2007 20:23:38
Regardless of who your team is and the associated banter that goes on between supporters of rival clubs... nothing can prepare you for such a tragedy.

Scottish football and Motherwell FC have lost a great footballer, ambassador and friend. My thoughts go out to the club, its supporters and especially Phil O'Donnell's family at this sad time.

RIP Phil... you will be missed.
49

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the rebound 29/12/2007 21:33:38
Once again a combination of laziness from a number of our players and Korobochka/Frail failing to respond to the changes Falkirk made in the 2nd half sees us on the worst run for years.

Elliot playing nearly the whole game and no substitutions until 84 minutes, this craziness just has to end. Perhaps there will be big changes once Romanov diverts his attention back to Edinburgh - I certainly hope so.

There are however much more important issues in our lives as I am sure all football fans would agree following the tragic passing of Phil O'Donnell. I notice the Hearts' website were very quick to post a tribute to Mr O'Donnell and pass on condolences on behalf of HMFC to his family.
50

Jambo 2524,

29/12/2007 21:46:26
PHIL O'DONNELL - TRAGEDY - CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY

Todays defeat was different.

First half we deseved better however if Ivaskevicius, Elliot, and Stewart cant get a shot on target when in good positions we don't deserve to score more than the goal we scored.
Second half two substitutions were needed after 60 minutes a BLIND MAN COULD SEE Posposil for Elliot (first touch shocking)to avoid sending off and more importantly Jonnson for Zaliukas (to cope with LATAPY)

Latapy was superb when appearing as a substitute and we needed to go man for man on him with a quick footed defensive midfield player. If we had done this we would have won the game.

Last 30 minutes Falkirk passed us off the park - Passing v Running = One winner
WHEN RUNNING TEAM TIRES.

Banks distribution woeful - WE NEED A KEEPER

Back 4 were good despite two goals - But we cannot pass a ball out of defense and this contributes to the ball coming back into Hearts half far quicker than 'normal'.
Neilson - OK in his own half
Tall/Berra - Good
Wallace - Best game for ages but not good enough

Contrast Falkirk defenders who generally passed ball to Falkirk players (not a bad idea)

Midfield Ivaskivicius - Below average (release)
Stewart - Below average (needs to change his style of play and attitude, he is not a goalscoring midfield player and in reality is a luxury we can't afford at present)
Zaliukus - below average (centre half playing in midfield)
Palazuelos - Average (best passer of the ball)
Driver - Average (potential = yes)

Elliot ( first touch shocking - headless chicken. In warm up last 4 shots at empty net missed target and two were miss kicked - Release)

Solutions
Bednar - Please come back
Pinilla - Please get fit
Kingston - Badly needed
Goalkeeper - Find a good one
Probably need a goalscoring midfielder but no idea who.

If Tall goes we have cover in Zaliukas.
Concalves (can't head the ball) at left back is better defensively than Wallace (MOM today).
51

Jambo 2524,

29/12/2007 21:51:11
Possible managers
McGhee/Levein/Gary Johnston - Give someone the job AND RESPONSIBILITY - That takes in Training/Selection/Tactics and Substitutions?
52

Alek Ahauf,

29/12/2007 22:25:00
Agree with 52, 53 possible managers??
I now more than ever truly believe that no manager can turn the fortunes of this club around, reason being that there is some sort of financial motive for Romanov to run this club into the ground. There has to be,why sack a manager when top of the league and playing the best football for years??? because success wasnt part of the BIG plan.
We are now without a doubt an utter shambles, cant buy a win and have 2 faceless head coaches who cant be bothered to explain anything and who also have no connection with the supporters of this club... why? because its not part of their working remit, they are simply there because teams have coaches so Vlad goes through the motions.
Frail is paid only to be a media spokesman, we all know he has no say in team matters, and he is clearly under strict instructions as to what he can and cant say.
Look at substitutions, they never happen when its obvious they are needed, and half the time when they do happen no one can understand why. Miko seems to go by his watch, its very much like he has been told beforehand at what time he will be going on.
It stinks and its to late to change, think of the team our owner has destroyed.. Gordon, Skacel,Pressley, Hartley, Bednar, Brellier, McAllistar, Johnson add them to Stewart, Kingston and Driver with Burley still as manager and we have a team to rival anyone!!! its not what our owner wants and im afraid only he knows what that is.
53

6rabbits,

penicuik 30/12/2007 00:26:02
jan14th is when you go into adminitration any comments?
54

just a jambo,

30/12/2007 00:31:31
re 9 f off what ever state we are in one day you will be a football club
55

just a jambo,

30/12/2007 00:45:04
sorry boys just got back to blackpool heard about phil sad day re post57 any truth that the police have started a investigation in to your finances looks like it seems like you paid the ref in 1902 he was the undertaker that burried queen victoria the year before go away and keep to your own page106 and counting.
56

aresmortal,

Granton, Edinburgh 30/12/2007 10:49:28
who watches drangons den???

how many times do you think one of the dragons buy part of someones business and a year or two down the line, something happens and the business doesnt do well, this is why the dragons are sucessfull, their able to get things back up and running and make a company do well again...same thing here with hearts.

romanov buys us... we do well... now were not.. he isnt worth 300 million coz hes a stupid wee ideot from leith! things will change. no body in this world likes to have something which is crap...nobody..and romanov is just the same, he will be sitting their working things out on how to improve things. i dont have 300 quid to my name just now so as much as the team is doing crap just now i have to put my faith in the guy whos managed to make 300 million, coz that says hes good at running a business. all im gonna do is support my team like im supposed to.

if he picks the team the who cares.. the team has beaten the best in the league this year and last. i just want the team to play as a team and by doing that i will support them and not boo them.. if what ive said above is crap. please fell free to educate me.
57

Vlad Magic,

30/12/2007 12:13:49
#60 I have every faith in Romanov to deliver as per your theory above. Its a shame that so many Jambos have been brain washed into negativity.

If you hear the same thing over and over again, its very easy to believe what you are hearing. Even if you did not believe it in the first place.

To many Hearts fans have fallen for this with the old fax machine taunts and flats etc etc etc which is a shame because Romanov has done massive ammounts of good for the club. Opposition fans WANT us to go against him, They are desperate for him to fluff off and go back to Lithunaia cos he is doing the right things for the club yet people are turning against him because they do not have the mental strength to ignore the opposition fans and concentrate on the positives.

We are having a bad season, it happens.Look at this situation hypothetically. Newcastle United?? Would we have taken Allardyce before he went to Newcastle? Course we would. Would we take him now if he gets the boot from Newcastle? Probably not. Was Allardyce the answer to Newcastles problems? No. He was touted for the England job not so long ago but still he cant get them going.

Like I said it is simply a bad season and things will turn around. Dont give in and listen to people who are desperate for Romanov to fail.



58

Vlad Magic,

30/12/2007 12:33:45
http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TyneCastle/0,,10289,00.html

Anyone seen this? We seem to be going to a lot of trouble for something we have no intention of buidling?

Idiots!!
59

Des' Dad,

30/12/2007 13:23:10
Vlad Magic:
FFS man get a grip. Nobody who is a Hearts fan WANTS Romanov to fail. We want him to change his ways. It is plain to everyone, apart from yourself, that the regime has got it absolutely wrong. We need one person in charge of team affairs, tactics, substitutions, selection, not a committee of yes men from Eastern Europe who cannot grasp that the methods they adopt in their own countries just will not work here. Romanov has done some good things off the field e.g., kit for kids, free match seats for kids and breakfast clubs at certain schools and these intiatives should be applauded, but they all pale into insignificance if the team is garbage. Make no mistake, Romanov will walk away one day but he will NEVER kill Heart of Midlothian Football Club. We may have to start again in Division three but we WILL survive to fight again at the very top of the Scottish game.
60

Mastermind.,

30/12/2007 13:32:45
61 + 62 Less of the sherry eh!
or buckfast!
61

Vlad Magic,

30/12/2007 13:39:15
Des's Dad,

I think you have missunderstood my point slightly. I did not mean Hearts fans wanting Romanov to fail, opposition fans do want him to fail though. There appear to be some Hearts fans doubting and in many cases turning against Romanov on the back of a load of BS stories about "stands not being built" and "he's in it for himself" blah blah blah.

I want him to change his ways, I want him to leave the footballing matters to people that know. I just wish people could base their oppinions on the man by their own without succumbing to pressure from opposites.
62

Vlad Magic,

30/12/2007 13:45:59
#64

Im off the booze at least till tomorrow night.

I cant believe I am getting stick for actually being positive. Half the problems with the team right now are down to negativity throughout the team. That negativity comes from everywhere including the fans. I agree that another part of this negativity is down to how the team is run and managed but far from all.

Cant you see that every club in the SPL right now is saying " HA HA Our plan to upset the Jambos support is working. All our anti Romanov stuff is really getting to them and now its reached the team" Or words to that effect. You are all blind if you can not see this.
63

Gorgie's Finest,

30/12/2007 13:47:55
First of all before i start talking about Hearts I'd like to say My condolences to Phil O'Donnels family, Also to Motherwell F.C for losing a great player and advert for the game, and to the Motherwell fans as well. A tragic and untimely death which has stunned the whole of Scottish football.

On to Hearts now. I've looked through the Hearts world re. the new stand/development etc. and ive said before in previous posts the same as #62 Vlad Magic. Romanov would not be spending the vast amount of money he has in the planning and using architects etc, if he had no intention of building the stand or any intention of leaving us out to dry, Businessmen worth 300million+ dont make that kind of money by squandering it on silly little games.

Vlad Magic, I have always fought Romanovs corner against the sceptics always reminding them of the good he has done etc. but even I cant defend his current actions or should i say lack of action towards the team. We have no decent management team in place this has been evident for months now, we have no cohesion, stupid rotational policies and interference all affecting the team and team moral. We all know what needs to be done but will it happen? I genuinely do not think Romanov will allow us to even get into any sort of relegation battle I think now twinkle toes has finnished his dancing he will spend more time concentrating on Hearts and expect to see significant changes in January, and not just in the playing staff.

Lastly Just a wee snippet ive picked up on the net. Only a rumour but the sites had some gems come true in the past.
Hearts trying to sign Irish Left Back sensation Ciaran Coll for £30,000 (Around 50 Thousand Euro). Hearts reported signing him in Augaust but a mess up in registration meant deal fell through. They know face compition from Celtic. The celts have enquired about the youth and are trying to tie up a deal quickly.

Don't know if this is something anyone else has heard of.
64

Taras Shevchenko,

30/12/2007 16:41:47
60 aresmortal,Granton, Edinburgh 30/12/2007 10:49:28
who watches drangons den???

dragon food for thought bro:
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-dragons-con-/2006/09/17/1899784.htm
65

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 30/12/2007 17:46:08
#67. A sensation you say, for £30,000??? For a sensation, must have missed a few zero's?? That's a weeks wages, not a signing fee.

We have signed 3 teenage sensations, huge publicity at the time, still not getting a game at an age older than Ferguson blooded players at Man U.


You say Romanov won't let us get an a relegation battle, has allowed us to be 1 point off 2nd bottom.

Yourself and Vlad Magic seem to think current position is acceptable, or just worthy of a small complaint here and there until a victory gives you dreams of recovery?

Before the season, less than 3rd place was unacceptable, now look at us.

66

Hibbee_with_a_heart,

Who cares! 30/12/2007 18:05:37
#69
Look at the site again. It hasn't even been updated properly. The dates don't match and the quoted 2008 till 2010 that it will need to build the new stand makes me think that Vlad is going to do the work himself at the weekends. More like the time is what it'll take to build what he really wants to build. Something that he can make a profit out of.
67

aresmortal,

30/12/2007 18:15:45
69 Taras Shevchenko, doesnt matter who watches dragons den.. i think i put my point accross as to why romanov will turn things around, that was mearly an example that people with 100+ million are ideots and know what their doing to make money.. and know people who can guide them if they need it.
68

aresmortal,

30/12/2007 18:16:46
sorry meant to say...
people with 100+ million "arnt" ideots

69

Taras Shevchenko,

30/12/2007 19:29:59
72 aresmortal - I agree with your point that its reasonable to assume that folk with cash will probably be pretty savvy with making more......

But, I'm just pointing out that all that glitters is not gold:

look at Michael Jackson, rich dude now skint and having to reform with his bros so he can get more money so he can blow more money how fit. even though everyone else will think its crazy...even the lama.

Vlad doesn't seem too diferent to wacko jacko - Vlad too seems to enjoy everything being HIS way - everyone is just orbiting around HIM....just like jacko.

Don't know if Vlad ever dangled his son out of a hotel window - but he too seems to enjoy a good boogie and blowing lots of cash on whims.

The story of 'The Emporer's New Clothes' comes to mind with Vlad....everyone will be sitting back thinking "he's a nutjob"....but because of the cash he has amassed (under alleged suspicious iron curtain circumstances)....everyone thinks that he must know what he's doing.
70

Taras Shevchenko,

30/12/2007 19:31:31
#71 eh?
71

Taras Shevchenko,

30/12/2007 19:33:08
Those Dragons on the Dragons Den are just ego-trippers!!

They slag off products that they are not interested in and when they see something that is a low maintenance sure-fired way of making them more cash or its something with the correct cache for their portfolio...they jump to 50% ownership...simply because they can and they gamble on the punters being too meek to negotiate or walk away from the outrageous offer.

They are just on an ego trip - the same as Vlad - I can't see the jambos feeding Vlads ego much, but will we feed his coffers next season? That's the question.
72

semac,

corstorphine 30/12/2007 22:28:24
Hard to believe that Romanov still has support.
61 get real.
73

Vlad Magic,

30/12/2007 22:33:54
#79

Get real?? Please what is your issue with my point on 61? At least say what you want to say rather than disguising it with stupidity!!
74

aresmortal,

30/12/2007 23:40:48
74 Waspy100, i dont need to use a spell check now that your sad enough to do it for me!!

thanks.

75

Gorgie's Finest,

30/12/2007 23:46:32
#70
At what point have i ever given you cause to think i think the current situation is acceptable?

I have posted many times on here calling for action to be taken. I also included a link to an online petition which maybe resort to nothin but at least is still doing something. Did you stand outside the main stand after the st mirren game? I think not. You strike me is being another follower willing to have a quick snipe at others who may not have the same ideas as yourself. If you feel that strongly about it i suggest you get of your backside get your finger out your a#$e and actually start doing something other than coming on forums and having a go at fellow fans that actually are trying to do something.

Having said that back to the original point those are my personal views on Romanov just because i said i had been behind him at the start does not mean I agree with everything he does or everything that goes on at the club or accept the current situation. I tried to take a positive view and looked at things from a business point of view.
76

Gorgie's Finest,

30/12/2007 23:55:12
As for the young "Sensation" part of my post earlier it was copied and pasted from another site. You may have some points regarding blooding young players and they should be getting a shot, I also have said for a while give branny a go in the team the lads scoring for fun in the under 19's, again that is a management issue Just because a player costs 30,000 that dont mean he is a bad player this is a lad of only 17 or 18. Did the Hibs fans grumble when they only paid 5,000 for sproule? he was a half decent player especially for the money. I suppose going by your reasoning anyone signed under a bosman must be complete gash as they cost nothing?

 

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