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Published Date: 09 June 2009
EDUCATION chiefs today revealed the latest Edinburgh primaries to face the axe, with four more schools set to close by next summer.
Burdiehouse, Fort, Royston and Drumbrae primaries have all been earmarked in a bid to save more than £1 million a year in staffing and running costs and bring in a further £2.4m in land sales.

Council bosses say there are 8,600 empty places in the city's primary schools, but the move to close schools will undoubtedly spark protest campaigns.

News of the fresh closures come almost a year to the day since the council announced plans to close Westburn, Bonnington and Lismore primaries. Bonnington and Lismore closed at Christmas, while Westburn will shut before the summer holidays.

Both Burdiehouse and Drumbrae – which celebrates its 50th anniversary this year – were on the council's original hit-list which was unveiled in August 2007, so it may come as no surprise to parents that they have been earmarked for closure once again.

While Fort Primary in Leith did not appear on the original list, its inclusion may too have been expected as it has since been decided that the nearby Fort House estate is to be bulldozed.

Although Royston was not on the original hit-list, it suffers from poor results in reading, writing and maths, as well as a falling school roll.

City education leader Marilyne MacLaren defended the move and said closing the schools would provide better "value for money".

She told the Evening News: "We want to continue to offer Edinburgh's young people an education that is among the best available.

"To do this we must be sure that our schools are well equipped, well staffed, full of pupils and that they offer the best value for money.

"The money that the government gives us for education is linked directly to the number of pupils in the city – this means that it costs us much more to run schools that aren't full.

"We also know that full schools mean better access to the curriculum.

That's why we must continue to review our school estate and ensure that schools are as good as they can be.

"We know that government spending is tightening up, so it is vital that we get the most out of the money we invest."

This latest round of closures will not be the last as education bosses fight to reduce the number of spare places and save money from schools with low capacity.

Amongst those expected on any future hit-list will be a secondary school, as council chiefs want to close one by 2011 to save an estimated £1m.

The occupancy levels at all four under-threat primary schools range between 33 per cent and 41 per cent, while the cost per pupil is significantly higher at these schools than the Edinburgh average of £3,699. If all four primaries were to close, it would remove 1,270 excess school places, going some way to filling the 8,600 empty places.

Since 1997, the school roll in Edinburgh has fallen by nearly 6,000 pupils, equating to a 19 per cent drop. The number of schools in the city has fallen from 103 to 91 over the past decade after three major reviews.

In August 2007, the city council announced its controversial proposals to close 13 primaries, three secondaries and six nurseries.

The plans were scrapped because of massive protests, but education bosses were forced to look again at the school rationalisation process almost immediately due to capacity issues in some schools and the need to save money.

This time round, city chiefs have announced the closures piecemeal in order to prevent a repeat of 2007, but the news is still expected to receive strong opposition.


PARENTS WILL GET THEIR SAY

PARENTS will have the chance to comment on the proposals when the consultation process starts in August.

Council chiefs are proposing that pupils from Burdiehouse would be given places at Gracemount or Gilmerton schools if it were to close. Pupils from Fort would go to Trinity, while pupils from Royston would go to either Granton or Forthview. Children from Drumbrae would go to Clermiston or East Craigs.

The council says it will reinvest the money made from the sale of the sites back into the school estate.

The proposals will recommend that Burdiehouse, Royston and Drumbrae are sold off, but that the Fort is retained.


Your Say: Do you think the council is right to close schools to save money?

Alexander Alexander, 81, retired, Calder Gardens: "As long as they make sure there's alternatives and if it's solving monetary problems I don't have a problem with it."

Sandra Aitken, 44, playworker, Pirniefield Bank: "If schools are not working to their full capacity it's a necessity to close them in this day and age."

Christopher Fentiman, 73, retired, Polwarth Gardens: "They should stop wasting money on other projects. There are better ways to save money."

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  • Last Updated: 09 June 2009 11:13 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh school closures
 
1

Statsman,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 12:02:34
Where are all the kids of the immigrants that are swamping Edinburgh going to go to school? Where are all the kids of people that can't afford private schools in the current economic climate going to go to school?

Does the council care?
2

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 09/06/2009 12:06:49
Where will the teachers go,and how about our kids education.
3

Nectar,

Leaf 09/06/2009 12:24:02
#1. Statsman: could you please provide the statistics that show Edinburgh is being "swamped" with immigrants?
4

Statsman,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 13:17:26
3 Nectar

No one can provide the definitive statistics since the government has no idea how many immigrants there are either. However, you'd need to be blind and deaf not to realise that the city is full of immigrants.

As an example:

ERI turns away mums-to-be because maternity unit is full

"The pressure on space follows a baby boom in the Lothians over the past few years. Since 2004 an 11 per cent increase in births has been registered, put down purely to the rising population both of Eastern European migrants and others from across the UK coming to live in the region."

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/ERI-turns-away-mumstobe-.5251265.jp

Those are kids of immigrants swamping the system that will need schools.

Does that answer your question?
5

Rambo The Jambo,

Sunny Tollcross 09/06/2009 13:39:42
What's the big deal?

Two schools in the Tollcross area closed years ago due to the increase in student residents and fewer families.

North Merchy and Bruntsfield Primary.

Not enough kids = closure, it's commonsense really.
6

reincarnated,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 13:47:07
Yes what's the big deal. Shut them.
7

Tr1xx,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 13:56:02
How much of the £1 million per year savings will be left after CEC spend hundreds of thousands on expanding and upgrading alternative schools?
8

Angi F.,

edinburgh 09/06/2009 14:00:34
The big deal is that some kids will end up going to schools that are already quite full, see Clermiston. If you see the size of the dinner hall, you will know what I mean. The same goes for the sports hall and playground. If the council promises that it would plough the money back in, it would be good to consult with staff, parents and kids. However, it will need to sell of the redundant buildings first and what developer is going to take that risk now?
9

Nick Nick,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 14:33:13
#5 Er, I think you'll find that Bruntsfield Primary School is alive & kicking. At least it was when I dropped my daughter off there this morning.
10

Nick Nick,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 14:34:49
Drumbrae looks like it's in trouble though, from the photo at the top of this article there are only 10 kids there!
11

HughB,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 14:46:05
Let's get it straight - the council is run by the LibDems.

Now, lets get another thing straight, if they can afford £45 million per mile of tram rail, then surely they can reduce the length and spend some of the money on the schools.

Now, let's look at the reality: It surely is foolish to impact on education when the main aim is to claw back some of the shortfall caused by other (i.e. tram) projects.

What is the intention - sell the land, for what purpose - to build houses on it, and where will the children from the new houses go - miles away to some school because the local school was closed by a short sighted council, and what will the effect be - rather than being able to walk to school, the school run will become even more widespread.

I went to Fort primary, and it's a great school. Not worth closing great schools like that when they are pouring money down the drain for the trams.

Come on council, get a grip. Keep the schools open. They will be needed. If you close them, you will just have to end up buying more land to build new ones, because there is a baby boom at the moment, and give it another few years or so, and you'll find you don't have enough school places available.
It'll just be a waste of money in the long term trying to plug a funding gap in the short term (just like the trams).
12

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09/06/2009 15:47:22
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13

claudiaehgoldie,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 15:49:03
Hi, im claudia goldie.I am 11 years old.
Im a pupil from royston primary and if my school closes down it will ruin my childhood.I have been there all my life and would be heartbroken if it closes down.

So please, im am begging you, PROTEST!!!!!!!!!!!
14

paper,

edinburgh 09/06/2009 16:45:50
Every single study on education in recent years has shown that small class sizes are better and big classes impact poorly on education. They re going to poorly impact the schools they are sending these extra students too.

Shouldn't the schools they are sending extra (in many case high needs) students too be taken into account?

ALSO - even according to the Evening News (!) birth rates in Edinburgh in the past few years have been up. I know for a fact that the council is ignoring this fact in their plans for the schools. This baby boom hasn't hit the schools yet, but when it does what are they going to do with the kids having gotten rid of "extra" spots.

What they are doing is WRONG. They are bnkrupting the city with stupid trams that no one wants (and ruining a very populat cycle trail system) and they can't afford BASICS like paying for the schools.
15

gordon aka smoker and proud,

edinburgh 09/06/2009 16:49:35
#9 tony
for once i totally agree with you!

#13 fooo
i also agree with you too!

#14 take it you have failed your 11+ many times and are being sorta held back?
16

paper,

edinburgh 09/06/2009 16:53:46
Angie F - and did you know that the last time their plans were floated for this they proposed the following for Clermiston?:

1. Because there would be too many kids for the classrooms they were going to put them in "temporary classrooms" (ie those movable caravan type things they use for contruction offices etc).

2. They were going to get rid of the Nursery Playground and build a new Nursery on top of it to accomodate all the extra kids. No room for a Nursery playground, that would be great [sarcasm]!

Larger schools and class sizes = a poorer education. These plans sound like they are going to negatively impact the children all around.
17

Davy,

09/06/2009 16:59:47
Of course its ridicules we are taxed to the hilt we have a right for local education. If classes are smaller the kids would benefit. So it’s better all round. Instead the money saved, will go on something we definitely won’t want & it will be forced upon us regardless
18

paper,

09/06/2009 17:05:46
Why do we never get referendum vote on things like education and the trams? Local elections in other countries often have votes about items like these during their elections. Instead once these people are voted in they seem to be able to just push through whatever they want. We should take a look at our local governmental structure. I think we need more say on certain things.
19

The faithful=,

Gracemount 09/06/2009 18:21:33
So Burdiehouse is one school that will close and all the kids will have to go to Gracemount Primary.Result -overcrowded.
Gracemount is set to build 220 new homes next year and most will be family homes,where the hell are all these kids going to go from the new houses-are all the houses being built to accommodate British Citizens or immigrants.????
20

Nemetor,

Lothian 09/06/2009 19:00:32
#14 Claudia.....

Not time to go to the big school now ?
21

stan102,

09/06/2009 19:34:42
4 primary schools savings 2.4m well thats another 2.4 million pounds that can go to bailing out the trams that nobody wanted.

More cuts to come folks!!!!!
22

Jimbo doin' limbo,

under a pole 09/06/2009 21:16:10
Too much dependancy on the nanny state as always. Close the schools and let parents take responsibilty for their kids' education.

ALL state schools, I mean ...
23

saltiresfan,

Edinburgh 09/06/2009 22:03:11
The criteria for closure here really needs looking at. Burdiehouse in particular is a wonderful school which does a tremendous job for children with special education needs and in the wider community.
We already know that enrolments for August 2009 are up so why is CEC still trying to close four schools?
24

Lil Miss,

10/06/2009 07:40:06
Corstorphine Primary are having major problems accommodating their catchment and if they changed the catchment then the children living further up nearer Drumbrae could go to Drumbrae where a lot of people who don't get in to Corstorphine nursery go to use the nursery anyway. That way the over crowding at Corstophine would be sorted and Drumbrae would be fuller.

Unfortunately they don't care, this plan was made before they had even had the go ahead for the previous 3 closures being voted on.

Gillian Tee closed down various schools in Oxfordshire and they now have an overcrowding problem in the schools that were left. She's now making the same reputation for herself in Edinburgh. Close the schools, then leave the other ones overcrowded then move on to whatever other Local Authority will have her.
25

Loving Mother,

10/06/2009 08:17:43
What an absolute load of codswallop that Royston Primary School are acheiving low results in reading writing and arithmetic as my two grandchildren got amazing report cards and I know of other kids from the school who have done really well and got superb reports. I think what needs to be taken into account unfortunately a number of kids don't get the help they need at home with reading writing etc. but they can't all be accused of being non-academic.
26

Loving Mother,

10/06/2009 09:29:49
How ignorant and rude can 16 be to the little girl sticking up for her school. From your comments 16 there was no chance you even managed an 11+ and maybe you should try again.
27

W Smith,

Middle East 10/06/2009 10:02:04
The annual salary bill for Holyrood MSPs is over 7 million quid, not including expenses.

Hmmm..

Let me see now...

Close a few primary schools and save 1 million quid .. or..

 

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