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Published Date: 27 October 2009
EDUCATION bosses are lining up two city secondary schools for closure in a desperate bid to battle the council's funding crisis.
Council leader Jenny Dawe said that the school closures were among the measures on an early draft of efficiency savings proposed by the city's children and families department.

The department – along with all other areas of the council – is looking at radical action that will help it achieve targets of slashing 12 per cent of its frontline costs in the next three years.

The move will revive the fears of parents at Castlebrae Community High School, Drummond Community High School and Wester Hailes Education Centre, which faced closure two years ago.

Cllr Dawe said that the administration would fight the need to close two of the city's 23 secondary schools but admitted that tough decisions lay ahead.

She confirmed that the draft report had recommended two secondary school closures, and added: "There are secondary schools that are not full and it may be that some would get a better education in other schools."

In August 2007, the council announced controversial proposals to close 13 primary schools, three secondaries and six nurseries. Education leaders then ruled out any secondary school closures early last year.

Cllr Ricky Henderson, education spokesman for the Labour group on the city council, said: "Frontline services are very important and every effort should be made to protect them. School closures should always be a last option.

(Education leader] Marilyne MacLaren has said she needs to cut five per cent every year for the next three years. But we do not know the individual department allocations yet."

The council expects to have to make more than £90 million in savings over the next three years, and to have to fill a £247m gap in funding over the next ten years.

Cllr Dawe said: "Clearly we have statutory duties we have to comply with regarding things like schools, vulnerable children and the elderly. There is a lot that we absolutely have to do.

It may well be that services we do not statutorily have to deliver, we will have to look at whether we really need to continue to deliver them."


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1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 27/10/2009 12:00:39
Efficiency or Education,over to you Jenny Dawe.
2

Edge Living,

in the city 27/10/2009 12:07:26
Fantastic area for development in the city centre.
This would raise a fortune, unless of course the Council sell it off cheap as they usually do, hmm
3

AbandonAllHope,

27/10/2009 12:13:48
Dump 'rent a gob' Cardownie, youse'll save squillions
4

Black Five,

edinburgh 27/10/2009 12:18:12
Budgets are got to be trimmed as the council tax payers can`t go on funding lame ducks.If schools are not full they should close.
Biggest savings though in Education is the department itself where there are two many overpaid staff.Fact is if 40 % were cut tomorrow it would make no difference to the way the department is run.Too many bosses take on more unwarranted staff creating job empires so they in fact can get an upgrading.Time this was addressed too.
5

Heedbanger,

27/10/2009 12:30:37
#3. Back to sleep.
6

Jams,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 12:41:54
"it may be that some would get a better education in other schools"

Jenny Dawe making another clear statement in support of council policy. NOT!

It would seem that there is a chance (just a chance mind you) that some people (only some mind, not all) might (not will, only might) get a better education if we shut their school.

I think this translates as "If nobody complains I will take all the credit, if there is an outcry about it we will throw Marilyne to the wolves (again) and stay quiet".
7

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27/10/2009 12:41:55
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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 27/10/2009 12:46:42
SNP = Tartan tories = cuts, cuts, cuts. Well done all you "Braveheart" voters.

Very worrying to hear Dawe remark that "things like schools, vulnerable children and the elderly" are things she looks at from a statutory point of view rather than what any reasonable society would think was necessary.
9

Jaco Pastorius,

27/10/2009 12:53:00
[hoping Sarah B might appear on the scene]
10

Watch Us Wreck The Mic, Psyche.,

27/10/2009 12:53:24
"Holy sh!t, Marilyne, some of our schools have less than 30 pupils per class. We run the risk of giving children at these schools a half decent education! What are you going to do about it?"

"Phuck, sorry Jenny, I didn't realise. Let me close a couple down. That should bring class sizes up past 45 in a few more schools."

"Good work Marilyne. And we're freeing up more cash for our year end bonuses"

"High five and a chocolate each!"
11

James Collins,

27/10/2009 13:01:30
Full is a very bad word with education cuts. After the last round or primary schools, 'Full' seems to mean the maximum number of kids in a class and everything is bursting. No school should be full. Can't speak for Castlebrae or Wester Hailes but Drummond couldn't take many more kids. God knows where they'll put all the kids if it closes - probably max out the new Broughton High.

£92 million budget deficit and it all seems to be coming out of the one area it shouldn't.
12

Thresa69,

EDINBURGH 27/10/2009 13:06:15
No 7 - You clearly weren't educated at all with your spelling and grammer, maybe you should go back to school.
13

Crivvens,

27/10/2009 13:07:23
#7 Looks like you need to go back to school yourself big man!
14

Thresa69,

EDINBURGH 27/10/2009 13:11:14
Surprise surprise Ms McLaren we knew this was coming!
Let's pick on the vulnerable students and make sure the schools in your constituency are fine and dandy.
Hopefully you'll be voted out at the next election as you are a disgrace as a Councillor.
15

KTCB41,

27/10/2009 13:19:50

Edinburgh Council seems to be in rather more financial difficulties than other Scottish Councils. Is there and official reason why this is the case?

?
16

James Collins,

27/10/2009 13:31:07
Official reason is "due to the current economic climate and a number of major initatives".


and we can all guess what that probably was...
17

chompyman,

27/10/2009 13:42:10
12,13 its lost on the pair of you.
18

Incandescent,

27/10/2009 13:43:29
"major intitiative"? Major something all right, and it ain't "initiative", that's for sure.
19

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27/10/2009 14:02:06
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dba,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 14:15:20
WELL, WELL we now KNOW the proposed size of cuts to the Education Budget over the next few years!

Similar cuts will be made over EVERY DEPARTMENT of the Council (Some Departments are already anticipating SECOND ROUND of cuts NEXT year as well)!

Stories have been cirulating for weeks about a potentiaL BUDGET DEFICIT of over £245 MILLION!
And yet we have a council with Jenny Dawe and Steve Cardownie who feel that it is perfectly acceptable to run the Winter Wonderland and Hogamany 'celebrations' at a thumping loss year after year: they want to bail out the Gathering and DEMA for some £600,000...

They still delude themselves (NEVER US) that (a) everything will be alright on the night (b) THEY are in charge! (c)Council Officials have been having a laugh at their (AND OUR) expense for FAR TOO LONG AND (D)The GOOd FOLK OF Edinburgh ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO BREAKING POINT...(And that's BEFORE the final over-run on the tram budget has even been calculated)!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - Dear Jenny and Steve - GET A GRIP on EVERY PENNY the Council spends, including Councillors expenses, salaries, subsidies and bali-outs or, I promise you, er long you will face the RIGHTFUL WRATH OF THE ELECTORS you are SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT!
21

coco1107,

edinburgh 27/10/2009 14:27:05
no news day?
article is whats known in the trade as lazy journalism.
no facts,scaremongering garbage,now thats a fact
22

Brian Ferrari,

27/10/2009 15:46:10
#12 Grammer, eh?
23

tumshie heid,

27/10/2009 16:25:03
Dawe, what is she good for? Absolutely nothing.
Say it again.....

24

chompyman,

27/10/2009 16:39:03
where are all the kids these days.have they all been taken by the social workers.it must be cos women are having children later in life so fewer around.wouldnt like to think young lassies are promiscous and having kids left right and centre,that would be awful.the councilors care about us and are only doing wot is right for the communities.so come on lets get behind them they truly are the best.
25

The Busman,

27/10/2009 16:45:08
#9

Second your opinion, Sarah B doesn't have a Facebook fan club does she?

Seriously, this is only the start of troubles to come.
26

Saughton Sid,

27/10/2009 18:22:16
The closure of these schools will no doubt justify the amount of money being spent on the new high schools that have been built.
27

Most Frustrated,

27/10/2009 18:48:13
No 11 you are right - I bet they closs Drummond and max out the new Broughton as you suggest and Wester Hailes will go to the new Forrester and max that out too. It's so obvious. Why close Castlebrae - is it not earmarked for new build? Thought I'd read that somewhere!
28

go boil ur heid,

27/10/2009 20:00:41
Jam Tarts 1874 i don't suppose it has to do with the massive debt that the lib/lab lot left us with, yes your wonderful working cough cough mans cough labour party.

just remember it was the lib/lab lot that brought in the schools closure policy, and now that the liberals dawe "who despises the fact that poor people can get an education" runs the education department with labours quisling cardownie's blessing she gets to do whatever she wants
29

go boil ur heid,

27/10/2009 20:26:53
as soon as the debt of the past is paid off, then you can blame the snp, but as usual you refuse to say any against your beloved labour party. if the previous administration was so good how come i've been homeless since they came into power how come the lowest paid in this country the sick, disabled,single parents, are treated like the jews in nazi germany. no gorgie i don't blame the last administration i blame people like yourself who wake every morning with the sound of where's mine comeing out their mouths and as soon as people with the i.q of a lobster are gone from this society the better scotland will be. you won't be missed
30

Farky,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 22:21:02
More short term thinking as usual. Close schools, cut serivices, and what ever you do, don't worry about the effects or repercussions of such short term thinking!!!
31

GMc,

edinburgh 28/10/2009 02:41:15
...and where do they propose to educate the rising population?
32

Thresa69,

EDINBURGH 28/10/2009 11:41:08
28#
You are quite right , I do think Drummond and WHEC are more in the firing line, You are also right in saying that Castlebrae is ment to be rebuilt due to the regeneration in the Craigmillar area. Lets just hope that they keep to their word and build it......
Its always a worry when schools are thrown into the pot to save money...I do think the councillors are playing party politics and not really thinking of the impact their play acting is going to have on the future of the children. Shouldn't they be pushing for the children to have a better future ??? Councillors seem to forget they are there to serve the people who had trust in them to put them where they are today. Councillors....Take note....Lose the trust of the people and you will lose your cushy job you have now. You have all been warned......Ms Mclaren I dont feel there is any hope for you.....
33

Aman,

Inverleith 28/10/2009 14:53:29
If any councillors had backbone, they'd dump the crazy tram line. Despite having spent £100m+, its still not too late. It might be an embarrassment to the few who have madly said its a good idea. Its plainly an un-affordable item in the budget.
34

Blinkered,

Edinburgh 28/10/2009 21:27:43
Edinburgh could follow Glasgow's lead by giving early retirement to teachers aged 55+ and replacing them with younger staff on half the salaries.
35

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 28/10/2009 22:27:05
Get off Jennys back folks, she has to pay for the hidden tram costs somehow.

The £400k allocated amongst much PR for redevelopment of the Tron has also been withdrawn.
36

Call this education,

Edinburgh 29/10/2009 18:52:32
By closing WHEC or Castlebrae the council can yet again be accused of social engineering. Last time they were going to redistribute the associated primaries, so that pupils currently living in areas of social deprivation and poverty would be taught in isolation; essentially in 'ghetto' schools. These announcements scare parents and force them to evacuate the successful schools where the WHEC and Castlebrae pupils are potentially destined. These schools then sit empty. How does this solve the problem. Surely we should be trying to promote truly comprehensive schools where pupils from all social backgrounds can progress positively together. How do these policies help close the gap between the rich and poor? How can sterotype and categorise young adults in such a negative way and call it education?

 

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