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Windbag city councillors accused of talking too much



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Published Date: 23 June 2008
COUNCIL officials fed up with meetings dragging on into the evening want politicians to stop asking so many questions.
Director of corporate services, Jim Inch, has proposed restricting the questions tabled ahead of full council meetings, and called for a "brisker" approach to meetings.

But the move was today branded an "affront to democracy" by opposition politic
ians.

Monthly full council meetings have regularly overrun by several hours since last year's election, with the addition of a new opposition group, following the election of three Green councillors, seen as one reason for the extra workload.

The number of community groups making deputations at meetings has also soared, mainly in response to council cutbacks.

Some observers say that Lord Provost George Grubb, who chairs the meetings, lacks the ability to force councillors to stop talking.

An electronic "traffic light" system is due to be installed in August, which is designed to stop councillors speaking for more than the regulation three minutes. But Mr Inch said more could be done. "The number of questions is very demanding of staff resources during a very short turnaround period," he said.

"Together with the number of motions, the result has been some long council meetings and it is legitimate to question whether this is an efficient use of the council's democratic processes.

"A brisker approach to proceedings would be achieved by adhering to the time limits for speeches.

"Other options might include a restriction on the complexity of questions based on an estimate of the staff time to research and draft a response, a provision to remit motions direct to committees where their substance is clearly within the remit of a committee, and/or discontinuance of the leader's report as a council agenda item."

Cllr Dawe's leader's report effectively acts as the equivalent of parliamentary question time when it is tabled at the City Chambers. Each councillor can ask her one question on any relevant topic.

Ewan Aitken, due to stand down as Labour leader tomorrow, likened the situation to a meeting last year when parents protesting against school closures were not allowed to speak.

"First, the Lib Dem/SNP administration tried to gag the public by banning public delegations, now they are trying to silence political opposition by restricting our ability to ask questions," he said. "It's a scandalous affront to democracy and an attempt to restrict political transparency and accountability."

But Cllr Dawe today hit back, and said: "I will take no lessons in democracy from a man that, for a brief time, headed an administration where decisions were taken for the most part by a one-party executive.

"Ewan Aitken once again illustrates his inability to understand that our Lib Dem/SNP administration has vastly improved the way that elected members participate in decision-making.

"Cllr Aitken and his colleagues have been making a mockery of the full council meetings by submitting huge numbers of written questions, the answers to which they probably already know, and by submitting equally large numbers of motions which would be dealt with much more effectively and efficiently at committees."

Mr Inch's report will itself be debated on Thursday.





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  • Last Updated: 23 June 2008 11:01 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Council
 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 23/06/2008 12:47:05
Less talk and more action,gets you home earlier.
2

Bob 2,

23/06/2008 12:49:46
Its called Democracy, but surely this is there job?

If they ain't happy, they could always get another one somewhere else.

"Mr Inch's report will itself be debated on Thursday".. and will know doubt over run, hopefully he's kept his reports short and sweet.
3

Labour Sleeze Reporter,

23/06/2008 12:50:04
Kind of strange for a paid official to be telling the elected members what they should be doing. Especially Mr. Cover-up himself.
4

Andy Pandy,

Loanhead 23/06/2008 13:08:52
A traffic light system to measure the number of motions? Am I reading this correctly?
5

Foo,

ejinbara 23/06/2008 13:19:10
Anything stopping them doing the meetings over two days? Or three. These people are completely detached from reality. Do your job, you worthless swines!
6

lulach mac gille coemgain,

23/06/2008 14:04:01
Cooncillors make decisions, many WRONG, that affect our every day life- they should answer the questions before approving anything - longer meetings should be tabled in my books !
7

john3,

23/06/2008 14:17:33
How dare they ask too many questions. Don't they know for decades Edinburgh council officials have had their own way. Chinese walls do not have a look in with that lot. I take it they do not get paid extra for overtime
or no doubr the meetings could go on for ever.
8

rs,

in ma house 23/06/2008 18:18:50
with all the hot air that the Councilors and Officials produce , maybe the could harness it and produce some electricity and help Global warming
9

Bravetart,

23/06/2008 20:46:35
#Foo, I like the cut of your jib.

They could always be enviromentally friendly and use the hot air they expel to heat the council offices (and probably most of the rest of Edinburgh with it.)
10

Moscow Central 42,

23/06/2008 21:48:45

I do wish that Councillor ( Hoi Polloi ) Dawe would stop banging on about how the Lib Dems have vastly improved the way that elected members participate in decision making. What she does not tell you is that they have returned to the old committee system which was found wanting. A Capital City like Edinburgh needs an efficient structure for taking strategic decisions, and it currently does not have one. The cycnic in me might conclude that this suits the Liberal Democrats down to the ground since, as a Party, they have an almost genetic aversion to taking decisions.
11

Moscow Central 42,

24/06/2008 11:10:44

As for vasly improving the way in which Councillors participate in decision making, my agents tell me that the Liberal Democrats don't even consult with their Coalition partners, the SNP, before announcing policy. Their Leader Councillor Cardownie is apparently out of the loop much of the time. That would explain his almost insatiable desire for seeking adverse publicity, regardless of the conseqences for the Administration of which he is a part.

 

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