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Web access on city to Glasgow train would net economy £3m



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Published Date: 21 May 2008
INTRODUCING free internet access on trains between Edinburgh and Glasgow would be worth more than £3 million to the Scottish economy, a new study has claimed.
The Wi-Fi technology is already standard on trains using the East Coast mainline between Edinburgh and London, but business groups also want it introduced on services between Scotland's two main cities.

The research argues that businesses and wor
kers can benefit from using the time on trains to access the internet and e-mails while on the move.

The report, commissioned by the Glasgow-Edinburgh Collaboration initiative, said access would be particularly attractive to business travellers, who are most likely to use laptops, Blackberries, PDAs or mobile phones.

It is estimated that the value of time saved by allowing people internet access on the First Scot-Rail services would be around £3.5m a year. Introducing free Wi-Fi idea is not one of First ScotRail's franchise commitments, so the firm would have to be asked by the Scottish Government before the service is introduced.

Business leaders today said the Wi-Fi would bring benefits for travellers and businesses alike.

When Wi-Fi was installed on trains operating on the East Coast mainline by the then-operator GNER, it cost £3.2m.

The service was initially only on offer to first-class customers, but was last year extended to all train users.

A spokeswoman for Transport Scotland said: "We are currently preparing for a consultation with stakeholders to look at the best way to plan for and introduce various options and initiatives.

"A study into wireless technology and other connectivity improvements along the Glasgow-Edinburgh rail corridor will feature as part of these discussions."

Laura Gordon, director of Glasgow-Edinburgh Collaboration, which spearheads joint promotional initiatives between the two cities, said: "Some people can spend up to three hours driving between the two cities and introducing free Wi-Fi, which allows people to work while they travel, would help encourage a shift away from the car.

"It would also be a big boost to productivity levels and give people more options on how they work.

"It has been introduced, and is working very well, on the East Coast mainline, so I would hope it is something that can follow here."

In December last year, Scottish Citylink installed Wi-Fi technology in its fleet of coaches serving the Edinburgh to Glasgow route.

It was the first bus company in Scotland to offer the service and it cost £20,000 to install.

Around 5000 passengers use Citylink services between the two cities every day, with coaches leaving every ten minutes at peak times.

Ron Hewitt, chief executive of the Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce, said: "Introducing Wi-Fi as standard can only help to enhance the attraction of this route for business travellers."

A First ScotRail spokesman said: "If the Wi-Fi option is exercised, we will produce a report and meet all other obligations in full.

"However, that does not mean there is a commitment to Wi-Fi or that it will be introduced."





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  • Last Updated: 21 May 2008 10:55 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Transport policy , Transport
 
1

eric,

21/05/2008 12:10:16
Its already on the Glasgow Subway system.
2

Alan B,

21/05/2008 12:14:23
so when u can't get a seat are u meant just to juggle the laptop.

With the overcrowding means that it will be difficult to get a table for a laptop. There is also the problem when people currently use their laptop on the train. They want to take over the whole table. Who is responsbile if u put a cup of coffee on the table and the train jurks spilling the coffee over a laptop.

My own view, just get a quick train between our cities, no more that 1/2hr, and not the pedestrial thing we have currently. That and increase capacity.
3

Mr H 2u,

Embra 21/05/2008 12:21:24
Do they just make these numbers up? And why can't people manage to spend 50 minutes anymore, without the urge to phone or email more inanities to their fellow retards. A shower o' sh1tes.
4

Raoul Duke,

21/05/2008 12:27:09
Its 2008, trains should have Wi-Fi. End of.

However, what would really help the Scottish economy is having a proper rail link between our two major cities. By proper I mean a modern, super-fast line like they have in other European countries, and not the slow, crammed, “tea-trolley available” link we have between Glasgow and Edinburgh.
5

CB,

Somewhere in the EU 21/05/2008 12:35:42
The Edinburgh-Glasgow journey is not really long enough for wi-fi to be truly useful, though granted 30-40 minutes is enough to do a few e-mails, once you've got a seat, powered up laptop, etc. Or if you have an iPhone or similar wi-fi enabled device, even easier.

What would be really useful is if they introduced wi-fi on routes to Aberdeen and Inverness. These journeys represent over a 1/4 of a working day. People could really make use of this time instead of just working offline or using expensive and unreliable 3G data services.

6

Steven P,

edinburgh 21/05/2008 12:43:09
Is this the best that the Glasgow-Edinburgh Collaboration initiative can come up with?
Forget better, faster, cheaper or more reliable trains - lets have WiFi for the manics who want to use a laptop on public transport to show how important they appear to be.
Get a real job Ms Gordon.
7

Rod,

Kirkliston - European Village Jewel (2016) 21/05/2008 12:47:45
#3 Mr H 2u : And why can't people manage to spend 50 minutes anymore, without the urge to phone or email more inanities to their fellow retards.

I believe that mobile 'phone zappers are available. They can, I understand, offer opportunities for fun and amusement in observing the 'zapped' rushing towards hysteria if out of touch for more than 5 minutes. If I were to board a Wi-fi enabled train to Glasgow and if I owned a zapper I would not use it as the use of such a device is illegal.
Hullo?... Hullo... Uv been cut oaf!' ;-)
8

Rod,

Kirkliston - European Village Jewel (2016) 21/05/2008 12:49:59
#1 Its already on the Glasgow Subway system.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............
9

ddmc,

21/05/2008 12:50:27
It does disturb me that one of the biggest causes of interference for existing WLAN's are microwave ovens which operate @ 2450Mhz, turning the train into a large microwave oven if you cranked up the power to the AP's

I suppose Scotrail could use it to heat the appalling coffee they serve.

;-)
10

Dunaskin,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 13:16:49
#5 - you've got a good point there. These longer distance/duration trains need to be made more attractive to get traffic off the A9 and A90. Business travellers would appreciate WiFi so as to minimise the disruption to their working day. Edin-Glas is shorter, but so much busier and very important to the business community.
11

Hector Goodrich (Dr),

Colorectal Endoscopy 21/05/2008 13:18:17
Any word if the trams will be wi-fi enabled?
12

Arrow,

edinburgh 21/05/2008 13:32:24
some unions in Oz are claiming, on behalf of workers who have been given Blackberrys or similar devices, that these workers should have a pay increase on the basis that they are "on call" for times outwith their contracted office hours. how about here?
13

fresian,

dubai 21/05/2008 13:43:26
Hector, I'm not sure about the trams, but there was talk of wiring up Kenny Richie a while ago.
14

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 13:44:02
#3 has it spot on.
People of my age will remeber being told of this utopia where the development of computerts and other technology would make our lives a breeze. More time for recreational pursuits etc.
Instead we have instant communications and instant expectations. "I've sent an e-mail so it must be so and why has that not been done by now!!"
Get on the train and take 50mins out to re-charge the batteries. Lord knows its needed or we will all be going to early graves.
15

Mallory,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 13:52:13
Already available via an appropriate dongle or 3g enabled mobile.
16

Happy Hibee,

21/05/2008 14:18:28
Would the benefit not be lost due to the cost of teaching the weegies to read ?
17

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21/05/2008 15:29:10
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18

Angus R,

21/05/2008 16:00:28
I have my car wi-fi enabled. Unfortunately the power cable for my PC only reaches just outside my driveway.
19

Rod,

Champfleurie Estate 21/05/2008 16:20:54
I cannot for the life of me understand what all the fuss is about. I have had wireless for over 60 years and excellent it is for picking up the BBC Light or Home programmes. Mind you, I have been unable to find Mrs Dale's Diary for many years and miss the news of what Jim is up to.
20

Rod,

Champfleurie Estate 21/05/2008 16:33:18
#13 but there was talk of wiring up Kenny Richie a while ago.

I am disappointed that the EEN did not see fit to let us know of Mr Ritchey's views on these important proposals for the Edinburgh / Not Edinburgh rail service.
21

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington 21/05/2008 18:31:59
Who'll be first to post to the EN from a tram to say how awful the trams are?
22

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

21/05/2008 18:54:35
I agree scallywag. IT is my business but I'll be boggered if I can be contactable 24 hours a day. Travelling to work is bad enough without actually working on the way.

Having said that , perhaps scotrail can introduce pornography carriages.
23

The Ghost of Sir William Arrol,

The Forthy Bridge 21/05/2008 19:12:12
Probably sorting the squeaks, rattling roof panels, blown exhausts and other sources of din inside the (truly dreadful) trains would also save the economy a £3 million a year. On some E&G journeys you can't hear yourself think while the carriage shakes itself apart. Complaining seems to have no effect! Flagship service indeed!
24

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21/05/2008 19:37:25
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25

John Blackley,

Florida 21/05/2008 21:15:29
Oh good. We've got a train 'service' that uses ancient and decrepit rolling stock, is overcrowded and often filthy and is already plagued by the mobile phone crowd who think everyone on the carriage needs to know all the details of their sad lives.

And adding wi-fi access to this is a priority?
26

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21/05/2008 23:20:25
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27

Julian,

EDINBURGH 21/05/2008 23:23:47
#21 Fernando

"Who'll be first to post to the EN from a tram to say how awful the trams are?"

Euan...
except it won't be to say how bad they are, it will be to call for the project to be abandoned.

 

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