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Roadshow to sell 'city open' message during trams work



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Published Date: 28 January 2008
A NATIONWIDE roadshow has been launched as part of a scheme to help promote Edinburgh during the disruption caused by building work for the city's new tram line.
The Open for Business programme has an annual budget of £100,000 to let people know the city's shops and businesses are still operating as normal despite the years of roadworks ahead.

One of the first initiatives being launched is to take a commun
ity roadshow around Scotland to target regular visitors to the city.

The roadshow includes a video showing Edinburgh's shopping and tourist attractions as well as more practical information on how the trams works are affecting the city.

The tour takes place over the next two months and will take in shopping centres in Dundee, Glasgow, Glenrothes, Livingston, Kirkcaldy and also the city's Gyle shopping centre.

Other promotion options being considered are adverts on the approaches to areas worst hit by the roadworks to remind shoppers that businesses there are still open.

Shandwick Place, which is due to close to traffic for five months from February, is one of the areas being considered for this type of initiative.

Graham Birse, deputy chief executive of the Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce and chairman of the Open For Business working group, said: "This is one of our first steps in getting the message over that the city and its shops, bars, hotels and restaurants are very much open for business.

"The roadshows are essentially a public information exercise and details will be broadcast something like 500 times during each session, so it will be letting people know what Edinburgh has to offer."

The campaign and budget is being managed by a steering group made up of transport operators and business groups, and is to be chaired by the Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce.

The group is planning a visit to Nottingham next month to see if any lessons can be learned from how that city coped with the disruption while its tram network was installed.

Among the other promotion options being considered are advertising at Edinburgh Airport and on billboards and bus shelters, Lothian Buses' ticket promotions and low-cost leaflets.

Nigel Duncan, the vice-chairman of Edinburgh's Federation of Small Businesses, said: "It is vital that we get the message out to people that Edinburgh is still as vibrant and interesting during tram construction as it has always been."

The first roadworks for the trams began on Leith Walk in August last year, but next month will see the city enter the first phase of the worst of the disruption.

The streets will first be dug up to move water mains and gas pipes from the path of the trams, and then again to build the tram lines, stops and overhead wires.

City leader Jenny Dawe said: "It's always good to remind people of the superb destination on their doorstep and how easy it is to get here.

"The city is most definitely open as normal with all buses and trains running, any diversions well signposted and plenty of parking available."


WEB LINKS

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  • Last Updated: 28 January 2008 2:44 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh transport plans
 
1

mrmoneypenny,

28/01/2008 12:05:18
LOL
2

Myke Wylson,

Edinbvurgh 28/01/2008 12:05:58
This IS a joke, right! Sending a roadshow to the outlet and Livingston. This'll be on Edinburgh sucks
3

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 12:10:20
Oh great. Another expensive campaign of lies and spin.

Edinburgh is going to be grid-locked during the building of this toy train set and will continue to be grid-locked once it is built. The only exception will be if you want to travel between two points on the tram route.
4

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 12:13:34
Pathetic.
5

alex paterson,

embra 28/01/2008 12:20:23
The whole tramway is a road show,Edinburgh is still open for business,what a laugh.
6

Auld Twa,

28/01/2008 12:25:24
City leader Jenny Dawe said: "...... and plenty of parking available."
There's not enough parking spaces in the middle of Edinburgh now so where is it going to come from ?
7

eric,

lothian 28/01/2008 12:27:16
It will be Laughed out of Glasgow . Which has a better form of transport ,A Subway,Better take the message to financial companies who are bodyswerving edinburgh because of too much red tape!,Hilarious,Balamory on tour!
8

Hmm ...,

28/01/2008 12:27:24
... so why make a fuss about Edinburgh being open for business in Shandwick Place during the roadworks when tie's intention is to close Shandwick Place and West Maitland Street PERMANENTLY once the trams start to operate?

My understanding is that current plans are to run all the other traffic up and down Morrison Street / Dalry Road to avoid disrupting the trams' priority.

Or are they having second thoughts about that?
9

calum,

28/01/2008 12:37:19
The reason people shop at the Gyle and Livingston is to get away from trying to park etc. in the centre of Edinburgh. Now a roadshow wants them to come back during even worse than normal disruption! Eh? Which loony dreamed this up?
And as for visiting the other cities ....... you have to hand it to Edinburgh, trust them to invent roadworks and congestion Tourism!! And visitors would have to pay for the privilege!!
I have never in my life heard such madness as this TramLINE scheme throws up day after day.
10

Bob 2,

28/01/2008 12:46:22
Ho Ho

Ha Ha ha, who are they trying to kid.

Mind you, they'll probably find all the people that would normally shop in Edinburgh at Dundee, Glasgow, Glenrothes, Livingston, Kirkcaldy.


City leader Jenny Dawe said:
"It's always good to remind people of the superb destination on their doorstep and how easy it is to get here.
"The city is most definitely open as normal with all buses and trains running, any diversions well signposted and plenty of parking available."

Its amazing the spin that is given out.

Does no one realise the disruption to public transport that the closure of Shandwick Place, think festival times 10.

Among the other promotion options being considered are advertising .....bus shelters, Lothian Buses' ticket promotions and low-cost leaflets.
Well I suppose people will have time to read these things when there buses are running late.
And what about passengers who use FIRST, would hate to live in places like Dunbar or the far reaches of West Lothian, when the bus only runs hourly at off peak times..

If shops are being compensated will Bus Passengers be compensated?
11

NorT,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 13:07:16
Edinburgh will defintely not be open. Anybody in their right mind will avoid the city centre like the plague. Glasgow must be rubbing their hands with all the extra shoppers they are going to get.
12

Paul Voltaire,

28/01/2008 13:15:56
£100,000 down the drain.
The SNP seem to be every bit as able as the previous Labour council at wasting money.
Disappointing at best.
13

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

28/01/2008 13:18:02
11.

I don't think it's Glasgow that will be (metaphorically) rubbing its hands at the thought of extra shoppers, but Biggar.
14

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28/01/2008 13:20:28
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15

AndrewS,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 13:31:54
Edinburgh is becoming a right circus with Heart of Midlothian FC manager shuffle and the trams being the top listed acts. The viewers of the ads are already shopping at the out of town places, so why will they change location for the same clone stores ?
16

eric-shaun,

Lothian 28/01/2008 13:32:47
13.
Biggar indeed, But not metaphorically.
17

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28/01/2008 13:42:44
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18

Mik Wilso,

Smaller 28/01/2008 13:43:52
I'll hae twa o thay tramsets to get the sheep back in.
19

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28/01/2008 13:44:09
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20

Georgy Pordgy,

Outside 28/01/2008 13:45:11
I just keeps seeing a huge white elephant - has anyone else noticed it?
21

Young Bob,

Here unfortunately 28/01/2008 13:48:38
GENIUS…!!!

LET’S ACTUALLY ADVERTISE THE FACT

THAT THE CITY WILL BE IN UPHEAVAL



WHILE THEY’RE AT IT WHY NOT



JUST GO THE WHOLE HOG AND

RUN AN AVERTISING CAMPAIGN FOR


GLASGOW AND LIVINGSTON

“YOU CAN SHOP HERE AND ACTUALLY PARK!”


OR ALTERNATIVELY….

COME TO GLASGOW / LIVINGSTON / DUNDEE / ABERDEEN….

WHERE COMMON SENSE PREVAILS…
22

The_Doctor,

Down a hole 28/01/2008 13:52:34
Edinburgh certainly is "open"...all the roads are "open", i.e full of dirty great holes with gangs of men in "Trams for Edinburgh" bibs standing around them, peering at back-of-a-beer-mat style plans and scratching their heads in abject confusion.

But, hey, as long as we have an expensive PR campaign to highlight that Glasgow and Livingston are better options for shopping, it's all good!
23

The Judge,

28/01/2008 13:57:07
Well done Edinburgh City Council, your employees can have a few away days touring round Scotland on tax payers money. You couldn't make this stuff up.



24

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

28/01/2008 14:01:23
"generic whinge about trams"

HI BOB.
25

Declan,

Glasgow 28/01/2008 14:20:13
Ha ha quite hilarious! That Jenny Dawg really is an effing idiot!
26

Georgy Pordgy,

Outside 28/01/2008 14:26:47
"City leader Jenny Dawe said: "It's always good to remind people of the superb destination on their doorstep and how easy it is to get here."

If that's the case, then why are they building the trams?
27

PC Plod,

Leith 28/01/2008 14:28:33
Audit? isn't about time somebody (i.e. a grown up) did an audit of Edinburgh Council's expenditure? - have they ever spent money wisely (like even 10p's worth) and just how much (of our money) has been thrown away on politically motivated gimmicks - if councillors, past and present, authorised the expenditure then they are personally responsible for that expenditure and should be made to pay it back from their own pockets if any waste/mis-use is found.
28

Billy Effluvia,

Morningside (but on the way to Paris, France) 28/01/2008 14:38:16
YOUNG BOB

O WHY DO YOU SHOUT
WE ARE NOT DEAF

OR PERHAPS YOU LIVE CLOSE TO AN AIRPORT
AND STRUGGLE TO BE HEARD ABOVE THE DIN
OF ROARING AIRCRAFT

WE ARE CAPABLE OF HEARING IN lower case
AND MANY OF US PREFER IT THAT WAY

BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF IMPAIRMENT
THEN PLEASE ACCEPT
MY APOLOGY
29

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 15:35:40
What a pathetic waste of Council Tax payers money.

"The streets will first be dug up to move water mains and gas pipes from the path of the trams, and then again to build the tram lines, stops and overhead wires."

The town is going to grind to a halt while all of this 'work' is carried out.

I hope the trams scheme is a total failure. It should be cancelled now before any really lasting damage is done both to businesses and transport.
30

Lynser,

Chaos Central 28/01/2008 15:52:45
I hate the fooking trams and they're not even here yet!
31

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

28/01/2008 16:00:59
Can you imagine having a pint with 31.

I think i'd end up having about 12.
32

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 16:11:36
There's a lot of talk about gridlock, which seems to be generated by the pro-car lobby. If the selfish, arrogant car drivers left their cars at home and used alternative arrangements to get about the city, such as public transport, walking, cycling, etc, then gridlock wouldn't happen. Out of towners can use the park and ride sites. Lets not forget Sheriffhall park and ride opens in a few weeks time.
33

mrmoneypenny,

28/01/2008 16:58:02
#34 gORGIE tONY

iS it dOLe daY tOdAY?
34

Dileas,

28/01/2008 16:58:50
Sorry Gorgie Tony (34)- you're wrong. People who HAVE TO come into the centre of Edinburgh can lay aside an extra three quarters of an hour to accommodate using public transport but those who don't HAVE TO can choose to just go somewhere else - why do you think the out-of-town shopping centres are there in the first place - and prospering, even without Edinburgh shooting itself in the foot!

And don't think, Peter (31), that this problem is while the road works are being done - the priority to be given to the trams will mean PERMANENT closure of a lot of streets and restrictions and diversions on even more others.

I agree with you, though, that this ill-advised project should be cancelled even now, when all we have lost is a lot of money - the real damage to Edinburgh is yet to come. tie knows that - it is why they won't admit to the street restrictions that they are planning. Try a Freedom of Information request - they will say that they have not yet finalised street closures. Yet they know exactly where on roads the tram lines will run and therefore which pipes need to be moved and where. tie tell lies.
35

Georgy Pordgy,

Outside 28/01/2008 17:00:03
#34 At last the Pro tram lobby gets on board - glad to have you here. Shame you seem to be taking the 'anti car' line instead of the more sensible wasting the tax payers hard earned cash line. I take the bus every day and live on the south side so my axe to grind is simply the phenomenal waste of money this project is - The council would be better just subsidising the transport mechanism (i.e. buses) so we can all travel free - that would cut the car usage by half overnight.
36

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

28/01/2008 17:01:51
I know tis is typical of my comments when I'm having a bad day, but I honestly cannot believed how blinkered, parochial and ignorant some of you are when it comes to tram work.

Edinburgh is not the first city to have undergone such a scheme.

Yes, there will be upheaval , thats what happens.

At the end of the day, once it is built, the vast majority will like it.

THAT is the way it works !
37

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:05:31
#37 - Its no good throwing money at the buses for free travel - what do you think will happen if they did this? Yes - a massive increase in passengers - resulting in the company having to buy more buses to satisfy demand. Princes St at rush hour cannot accommodate anymore buses as it is - I am sure you have noticed this? The tram can carry a lot more passengers, reducing the amount of buses on the road, resulting in less congestion.
38

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:06:45
#35 - I work for a living so why should I know if it is 'dole day'?
39

Dileas,

28/01/2008 17:08:06
And which statues need to be moved and which roundabouts will be replaced by traffic lights to ensure that the trams can run through uninterrupted.

They even know what specification of tram vehicle is needed to negotiate the turns and hill-gradients.

Yet they don't know their plans for traffic diversion? Or do they just know how much we will all object once they share that knowledge with us?

I suspect that the main attraction of these 120 foot long trams in this anti-car city is to deny the roads to other users - forgetting that it isn't just car commuters who need to get about Edinburgh quickly. Or is it that they just don't care.

And you are wrong Paul Voltaire (12) when you say "The SNP seem to be every bit as able as the previous Labour council at wasting money."

The credit for this is with the Libdems who seem to share Labour's aspirations. Or is it just that old habits of following Labour's lead die hard?
40

Georgy Pordgy,

Outside 28/01/2008 17:11:13
#37 - Thanks for your insight and yes it did occur to me - but then with 50% of the cars disappearing the buses would have more space to roam. Remember there are an awful lot of folk in Edinburgh who will feel no benefit from this scheme.
41

mrmoneypenny,

28/01/2008 17:14:19
#39 HOW CAN A TRAM CARRY MORE PASSENGERS? According to you, princess street cant take any more buses, surely the same people will then have to get on trams?

Your dole paid into your accouint yet?
42

BBH,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:20:17
The problem with making Edinburgh less attractive to travel into is that people will go elsewhere, and they'll continue to go elsewhere long after Edinburgh has its tram set.
43

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:27:28
#44 - I wish that was the case - it would mean a lot less disruption for the residents who want to shop in peace in the city centre. Unfortunately the pro-car brigade have threatened this for years - but can someone tell me why they don't practice what they preach? The roads are as clogged up as ever with cars - so why ain't they going elsewhere?
44

aye,

Kernow 28/01/2008 17:27:30
34 Gorgie_Tony,Edinburgh 28/01/2008 16:11:36

Are you saying that if i want to drive my car rather than sit on some ned infested bus im selfish ?
45

aye,

Kernow 28/01/2008 17:28:46
45 Gorgie_Tony,Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:27:28

Typically do. A vast number of drivers would head for the gyle/livi over the city centre. Not only for parking but for superior shopping.
46

Goat Boy,

28/01/2008 17:29:36
It's not just the retail industry that will get hit - what about the tourist industry? Edinburgh isn't a cheap destination to come to visit, so imagine how disappointed the visitors will be when they find that they have spent all that money - to visit a building site.

You wouldn't come back.
47

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:35:17
#47 - well how come the city centre on a Sunday becomes a car dumping ground when the parking restrictions are relaxed? The selfish, arrogant car drivers even park in bus stops - giving complete disregard for the the elderly and those with walking difficulties who require the bus to get as close to the kerb as possible. Fortunately the parking attendants are now working on Sundays. I saw them in action yesterday, ticketing cars parked in bus stops. I congratulated two of them and asked why the offending vehicles were not getting towed away. I was told that this was their next course of action. So shame on any car driver who selfishly parks in bus stops - you deserve all the fines and costs you get.
48

aye,

Kernow 28/01/2008 17:42:50
I wholeheartedly agree , if a car is illegally parked ie bus stop then yes ticket and tow it. But its unfair to say that the city is a " dumping ground ". If a car is legally parked then these drivers have every right to park there as parking is at a premium.

As for congratulating parking attendants im glad you found a productive way to spend your weekend.
49

aye,

Kernow 28/01/2008 17:44:03
Also a bit harsh calling all car drivers " selfish, arrogant " . Case our sour grapes perhaps ?

50

Statsman,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:48:06
"plenty of parking available." - Jenny Dawe

£100,000 on this campaign against millions lost in parking fines. Hmm.
51

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:50:01
#50 - oh it's one big dumping ground on a Sunday. I have seen Rose Street blocked off by cars parking across it at the South St David St junction. The car drivers are totally selfish - obviously think their need to park as near to shops is above the safety of others. What if the fire brigade needed urgent access to Rose Street? They would have been severely delayed by the selfish car driver - putting lives at risk. In fact you have convinced me to write to my local councilor asking for parking regulations to be enforced on Sundays.
52

Statsman,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:51:31
38 The Genuine Mario Antoinette

Edinburgh may be the first city to have this upheaval to directly replace a bus service.
53

aye,

Kernow 28/01/2008 17:54:49
53 Gorgie_Tony,Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:50:01

Glad i have motivated you my friend. As already stated though. In this instance its unfortunate but if parking here is completely legal then these drivers cannot be called selfish. Btw you would have a very hard time getting a fire appliance down rose street on a Sunday with or without cars.

Statsman,Edinburgh 28/01/2008 17:48:06

Agreed , id love Jenny to show me where all this abundant parking is. I could then use it and stop Gorgie Tony calling us drivers the scum of the earth.
54

aye,

Kernow 28/01/2008 17:56:39
I have also from time to time used the park and ride facility at Herriot Watt and find that Edinburgh has one of the best bus systems in the country. The tram scheme is simply not required.
55

Euan,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 18:25:25
Totally agree with Peter,#31

This project should be cancelled before our City is carved-up and scarred forever.

This 'tram roadshow' is a complete joke and is yet another slap in the face of Edinburgh residents. To just throw away £100k like this is nothing short of scandalous.

It really is not too late to cancel this idiotic project and in the process put Edinburgh's streets back to how they were before all the stupid meddling messed-up this City.

Gorgie Tony - your pathetic anti-car and driver comments can only lead me to believe you must have failed your driving test at least 5 times due to your complete incompetence behind the wheel.
56

Rv3!,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 18:25:30
All that this promotional scheme will do is let everyone know there are problems in Edinburgh, which the council are trying to say are not going to be.

On seeing a sign like this, I always take a second think about travelling to that area. These signs will keep people OUT of Edinburgh.

Maybe that's their secret plan?
57

The Super Woofer,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 19:34:29
Where's Comical Ali when you need him?
58

The Super Woofer,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 19:34:50
Sorry, Chemical Ali...
59

rs,

on the bus 28/01/2008 20:30:38
34 Gorgie_Tony, think you'll find its bus users as well.

Lets not forget Sheriffhall park and ride opens in a few weeks time.

Should be, Lets forget Sheriffhall park and ride. Unfortunately they built it on the wrong side of the bypass.
Lack of Forward Planning and common sense are missing again.
With a wee bit of Forward Planning and Common Sense, they could have
Built the Park & ride on the South Side of the bypass with a dedicated bus lane....Combined this with the Waverley Line and a68 extension (which will only make one of the most congestion roads in Scotland - namely the A720) even worse.... this would have made the Waverley Line attractive and helped reduce car congestion at Sheriffhall .

But that would be too simple, like the Tramline as someone comments above,
....they dig up the road only to come back next year to dig it all up again......To Most Common Sense minded people......you'd think this was the Cheapest and less congestion causing solution.....But this is the real world.....maximum congestion and maximum spend is the name of the game when it comes to Edinburgh Council.

If you've seen the EN pictures tonight, it shows Hope Street being opened up.....the same street they spent thousand on a few years ago blocking off to traffic.

60

Estella,

28/01/2008 21:50:43
For goodness sake!!
61

rs,

in ma house 28/01/2008 22:07:24
N055

Re parking.....At most Council Buildings
Take a look at most Council buildings within the City Centre/city and you'll find an abundance of Parking Spaces.....strange for a Council that Asks us to use Public Transport
62

gus1940,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 22:34:34
Why doesn't The Evening News organise 2 protest marches - one for the trams and one against them - then we can see the true feelings of the citizenry and perhaps as a result the voice of the people will be listened to and appropriate action taken.
63

Julian,

EDINBURGH 28/01/2008 22:47:19
Euan # 57,

I have just had a vision of the future:-

Evening News 25/1/11,

Main Headline:-
"Proclaimers will cut the tape at next week's tram opening ceremony"

Comment from Euan:-
"scrap the trams, scrap the trams, it's not too late to scrap the trams"

64

Julian,

EDINBURGH 28/01/2008 22:49:54
Gus1940,

Brilliant idea. In fact, better still, why don't they just organise an independent survey. Yeah or Nay to the trams.

I have e-mailed the EEN twice asking them to do this but have received no response. I wonder why.
65

Bob 2,

28/01/2008 23:01:44
nice to see Lothian Buses continuing to offer a better service to its customers compared to FIRST.

How does FIRST improve its Customer Services to the Public in Dalkeith
Answer CLOSE its Travel Shop and make you call a number in LARBERT...wheres that you ask...near Falkirk

How does Lothian Improve the service in Dalkeith
Answer ...Open a LOCAL Travel Shop, where you can buy & get local bus information 6 days a week..

Nothing to do with the article.....
66

Antòn ????????,

???????? 28/01/2008 23:41:16
The Park & Rides are excellent services into town for out-of-towners.
67

D Fiasco,

Borders 29/01/2008 09:56:57
Watch the money fly away! 'Come Visit Edinburgh! Open for businesss until the trams grind this city to a halt!
68

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 29/01/2008 10:09:04
#33 The Genuine Mario Antoinette

"Can you imagine having a pint with 31. I think i'd end up having about 12."

Mario,

Judging by some of your postings/comments I thought that you had already drunk at least 12 pints (and probably S&N's at that).



69

mrmoneypenny,

29/01/2008 12:03:28
http://www.edinburghsucks.com/2008/01/28/they-paid-for-a-poll-and-they-dont-believe-the-answers/
70

rs,

in ma house 31/01/2008 22:45:15
39 Gorgie_Tony

you'll that a bus makes better use of road space

as someone states a tram will be 120ft long carrying 225 passengers (the majority standing)

a double deck bus (40ft long ) will hold 104 passengers (the majority standing), so lets see 3 x 104 = 312 passengers...that more than the same length of a 3 carriage tram..

 

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