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Princes Street and North Bridge city's worst accident blackspots



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Published Date: 16 May 2008
EDINBURGH'S road accident blackspots have been revealed for the first time.
The figures, which detail how many accidents have occurred across the city in the past three years, show Princes Street, North Bridge and the area around Leith Street to be those most likely to witness vehicle collisions and accidents involving pedes
trians.

The data shows there have been 67 accidents in the three years up to April in a section of the city covering Princes Street and North Bridge. The area around Leith Street and a section of the Old Town, focused on South Bridge come next, with 48 and 37 accidents respectively.

The most dangerous junction, meanwhile, is revealed to be that between Princes Street and North Bridge, where an average of five accidents take place every year.

Andy Fraser, who has been a concierge at the Balmoral Hotel for the past five years, said: "I have seen quite a few accidents, although they all tend to be quite minor shunts on the corner of North Bridge.

"You get a lot of tourists here and because they don't know the area that well they have been involved in a few accidents. I've seen some drivers on Princes Street who are clearly from abroad and have got a bit lost.

"Sadly I've also seen a couple of people hit by buses here, because it is so busy, but fortunately because the traffic is so slow they have not been too serious."

The figures are compiled by the council as a way of investigating how to improve safety on the city's streets.

Councillor Phil Wheeler, the city's transport convener, said: "Ensuring our roads are as safe as possible is a task we take very seriously. By taking a proactive approach and identifying areas where there are higher than anticipated levels of accidents, we are able to investigate whether we can implement measures to prevent future incidents occurring.

"However, all road users also have a responsibility to respect the rules of the road and use common sense for their own safety and that of others."

The accident data, which can include everything from pedestrians tripping on kerbs to multiple vehicle crashes, is collected each month by the police and handed to the council for recording.

Each year, the local authority's road-safety team carries out an accident analysis using a computer-based system. It calculates an expected accident rate for each stretch of road, each junction and for each 500-metre grid square in the city.

It then calculates the actual accident rate for each junction and compares this with the prediction to identify problem areas.

Bruce Young, the local co-ordinator of the British Drivers Association, admitted he had been surprised at some of the findings.

"I was quite shocked to see that Princes Street appears to have become less safe since it was restricted to just buses and taxis, as there appear to have been more collisions with pedestrians and that is a major concern," he said.

"North Bridge and Leith Street are both busy areas with a lot of roadworks and pedestrian movements, although I would have expected drivers in the area to be more careful because of that.

"There is no easy way to determine what could be an accident blackspot, although these figures should be studied carefully to see what can be done to reduce these accidents."





The full article contains 569 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 16 May 2008 12:01 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

CyclingEdinburgh,

16/05/2008 12:04:21
It will be interesting to see next year's figures for Leith Walk and Lothian Road.

http://cyclingedinburgh.info/2008/05/03/accident-waiting-to-happen
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mystery,

mystery 16/05/2008 12:06:07

"Bruce Young, the local co-ordinator of the British Drivers Association, admitted he had been surprised at some of the findings.

"I was quite shocked to see that Princes Street appears to have become less safe since it was restricted to just buses and taxis,"

take a good look at Princes Street, it amazing how many private cars use it without the police taking action.
3

calum,

16/05/2008 12:07:13
And in a Newsflash, a Council official was confident that road casualties in Princes Street would show a marked decline in the future .......... but sadly, accidents involving trams would take off.
4

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Ednburgh 16/05/2008 12:11:56
So most crashes are caused by speed then?

Evidently not in this case. Most of them are caused by inattention and stupid people running out under the wheels of buses.
5

Rv2!,

Under a bus wheel near North Bridge. 16/05/2008 12:14:35
Actually I hate crossing around the North Bridge/Princes Street junction. The green man signals and length of the phases easily confuse. I've seen many a near accident.

However, back on form, I have to add that many Buses and Taxi's seem to have NO respect for people caught out on this junction. Screaming horns and aiming at people who are crossing seems to be the standard policy.

Just wait until the trams arrive, the whole situation will only get worse!
6

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

16/05/2008 12:23:28
Yes, anyone stupid enough to run out under the wheel of a bus deserves serious injury. So inconsiderate!
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alex paterson,

At the moment in Sevilla 16/05/2008 12:49:32
Nothing new in this report it been like that for years.
8

Voice o reason,

Innerspace 16/05/2008 12:51:31
Fantastic. Amazing. Incredible.

Anything that goes wrong in Edinburgh, Lothians, Scotland, UK, Europe, Earth or just the Universe, BLAME IT ON THE TRAMS

City Centre roads worst accident blackspots? That'll be the Trams then.

SNP good at being bad? OOO, Bad Trams.

Gordon Brown dying 1000 deaths as PM? Worrying about Edinburgh's Trams.

EU Ministers 'Allegedly" fiddling expenses? Silly Trams.

Earthquakes? That'll be them digging up the road for the Trams.

Floods? The workmen will have hit through a water main while digging up the roads for the Trams.

Dust storms? The wrong kind of wind blew up the muck made while digging up the road for the Trams.

Famine? Shortage of Greggs Steak Bakes caused by Tram workmen eating them all.

See, everything that goes wrong in the world can be associated with the Tram Works.

Ooo I could crush a grape!
9

Shave,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 12:58:57
It would help if taxi drivers tried using their brakes as well as their horns when dozy tourists stray into traffic.
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/05/2008 13:04:01
Drunkeness is also a factor.
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 13:07:16
#9:

It would help if dozy tourists didn't stray into traffic in the first place---or when they did, to wake themselves up, switch on and start concentrating.
12

Jams,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 13:12:02
Fear not the Cooncil has a plan. By making the city centre an unappealing, difficult to get to rubbish shopping centre they are hoping to reduce the number of pedestrians to virtually zero. Then the only people getting knocked down by the near empty buses will be the under-employed parking attendants.
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the good doctor,

not very far away 16/05/2008 13:13:22
I'll tell you what the problem is: it's that castle. Demolish it and no more of our drivers or pedestrians will be distracted by the views. DOWN WITH CASTLES!
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Norman,

16/05/2008 13:16:03
It's a big city with congested streets and many visitors, of course there's going to be accidents.

What time of day are they happening? At night, with alcohol and slow reactions a factor? Or during the day with pedestrians crossing on red or vehicles trying to get through the lights too fast and shunting into the back of others?

Details please.
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16/05/2008 13:23:46
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16/05/2008 13:24:15
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16/05/2008 13:24:43
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/05/2008 13:27:06
You love me but you cant have me.
19

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

16/05/2008 13:28:44
Mario, sir, I put it to you that you are under the influence of a mind-altering substance.
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/05/2008 13:30:58
19 Not me Gastric. Its my stalker.
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16/05/2008 13:34:07
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PaulB,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 13:34:36
One major problem at the princes Street / North bridge junction is pedestrians blatantly ignoring the pedestrian crossing signals, and trying to cross on red. You can't legislate for sheer stupidity!
23

Shave,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 13:38:29
#11

Agreed.
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AdamKC666,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 13:40:40
I am sure the trams are going via St Andrew's Square so will not affect this junction. It is however the starting descent into Leith and is an interface for nutters and tourists to meet face to face. I once saw a drunk women shout and kick at a bus cos the driver beeped his horn as she staggered out in front of it. Some people to photos.
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thehitmaster,

Penicuik 16/05/2008 13:41:47
If pedestrians actually paid attention to what is going on and used the green man then the North Bridge junction would be a lot safer, people just run out in front of buses, taxis and then if it all goes wrong they blame the the drivers!! Can someone please also add some more signs on Frederick street, about half way down a sign says access for buses, taxis and cycles only then at the traffic lights there are signs saying no left turn except for buses, taxis, cycles and no right turn for anything - can the new sign have a message along the lines of "Yes those signs you've ignored are there for a reason, no you are not excempt, please read your highway code". And finally those drivers that insist on accessing Rose Street from Frederick Street despite a big 'No entry, access via Castle Street' sign, rant, rant rant....
26

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/05/2008 13:41:53
Some people to photos.
27

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/05/2008 13:43:13
20 I could do but I will not. I will find this bad tadger no matter what it takes.
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16/05/2008 13:52:35
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AdamKC666,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 14:05:10
Some people took photos.
30

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 16/05/2008 14:13:48
I BLAME THE TRAMS PERSONALLY......
31

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/05/2008 14:15:26
29 and some people didnt.
32

AdamKC666,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 14:20:54
#31, The ones who didn't have cameras or were too busy telling her to get out of the way as she was holding up traffic. I think she thought it was a metal monster. God bless the drunk.
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My opinions count for more than yours,

because I'm special 16/05/2008 14:31:23
I like "the starting descent into Leith and is an interface for nutters and tourists to meet face to face". So apocalyptic!
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GGTTH#1,

16/05/2008 14:46:45
under the rules of speed camera placements does that not mean princes street should now have one or am i slavering p1sh>?
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GGTTH#1,

16/05/2008 14:49:33
I think we should pedestrianise certain streets during certain times. Perhaps put up some bollards that come up at set times, block of a few more roads........oh sorry, tried that already have we?....
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/05/2008 14:55:42
Does Louis VItton sell scumbags ?
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11+failed,

the pans 16/05/2008 16:21:57
No surprise! Streets restricted to taxis and buses and streets with 20mph speed limits have been shown by Dept for Transport research to have above average accident rates. Because the facts don't fit with the speed camera partnerships and other speed fixated groups the reports are not publicised and copies cost upwards of £40.
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Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 16:37:26
I wonder how many of these accidents happen on a Sunday when the selfish car driver dumps his car anywhere in the city centre? I wonder how many of these accidents are elderly and disabled falling off buses, because the bus cannot get into the bus stop properly becuase a selfish, obnoxious car driver has decided he needs to park in the bus stop?
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Duncan in Edinburgh,

16/05/2008 16:48:05
#38 Dead right - the main problem at the North Bridge/Princes Street junction is vehicles, most often buses and taxis, running the lights on red for that left turn, and blocking the crossing when the pedestrian light is green. I've had numerous arguments with selfish drivers in that very spot. It happens every day, and it drives me mad.
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drew 33,

duddingston 16/05/2008 16:49:07
Poor deluded Tony, never let facts get in the way of your puerile prejudice.
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 16:57:58
#24:

"I once saw a drunk women shout and kick at a bus cos the driver beeped his horn as she staggered out in front of it."

I once had a doddery old man shout and wave his stick at me because I had the audacity to ride through a GREEN light at a road junction rather than stop and let him bimble across in front of me.

A bus driver once told me how a woman suddenly ran across in front of him along Princes Street without looking. Unfortunately, she quickly became part of the tarmac.

It must be natural selection in action. the only problem I see is the amount of congestion and delays it causes when someone decides that they don't need to look where they are going.
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Grumpy,

16/05/2008 17:09:01
NOt bad - I'm the 44th respondent and the first to mention cycles - just how many of them cause accidents at these junctions by running through the red lights?

And did you know that, prior to 1956 when the trams were discontinued (roughly 60 years before the next discontinuation o/a lack of funds) that this was also the most dangerous junction in Edinburgh?
44

Padraig,

16/05/2008 18:24:32
Gorgie Tony said "the selfish car driver dumps his car ...".

Sorry Tony, your politics are showing (again - when did they ever not)? Tell me, do you Trots (or is it Leninists, Stalinists or any one of the other fragments of the loony left, I really can't tell one of these different kinds of bigot from another) HAVE (orders from above) to use that term or is it just lack of imagination?

Or the chip on your shoulder?

But please just tell me once more - in exactly what way is a car driver selfish? Apter all, he pays the subsidies on public transport but doesn't use it, he eases the load on peak time buses (just think how many more buses we would need otherwise - and need them for only a couple of hours a day) AND he pays tax through the nose to use his car - in road tax, fuel duty, VAT on fuel duty and, soon, a "showroom tax" to help keep this spendthrift Labour government in funds. Sounds pretty public spirited to me!
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jamesviii,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 20:13:07
20 mph speed restrictions and speed cameras !!
If not, why not ??
We should be told !!
That will slow down the buses and taxis travelling at an inappropriate speed !!
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16/05/2008 20:46:33
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Sods Law,

EDINBURGH 17/05/2008 09:56:06
All the lights on Princes Street just many others at busy junctions in the city are out of sequence. One says go when the other is just changing through green, amber to red, especially at Waverly Bridge, St Andrew Square, Prices Street Junction. TRUST ME IM A BUS DRIVER. And what about the Zebra and Pelican Crossing at North St Andrew Street/Square only 10 metres apart.
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geekpie,

arbroath 17/05/2008 19:22:23
why are so many cars in Edinburgh city centre in the first place? It's really quite selfish to bring your car into the city on a regular basis.
51

MasterXX,

M8 - A9 18/05/2008 01:03:49
Im tired of seeing reckless selfish drivers overtake at high speed on the M8 and A9.

Shunts are caused by dippy drivers!

 

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