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Published Date: 28 January 2008
AN "honesty" box to allow councillors to pay for their lunch is set to become a permanent fixture at the City Chambers.
The trial scheme was introduced in September after free meals in the members' lounge were axed as part of cost-cutting measures.

Politicians are now trusted to put £1.50 into the box for sandwiches and £1 for a bowl of soup served with a crusty r
oll. Council chiefs said the money raised by the venture had been "satisfactory", but declined to reveal actual figures.

The free lunches for councillors were originally scrapped in a bid to save £45,000 a year.

After the honesty box was launched, it is understood that staff regularly found it to be left short at the end of the day.

Officials soon swapped the box for a version that cannot be opened and features a slot for coins to be dropped in, but the council also declined to reveal whether the correct amount of cash was now being paid.

One City Chambers source said it was thought the amount of money raised was still sometimes lower than it should be.

Labour councillor Lesley Hinds today said the set-up was creating "more bureaucracy" for City Chambers staff.

"The administration has got to make up its mind – they either subsidise meals or they don't," she said.

"It takes time for staff to add the money up at the end of the day, and then bank it.

"Personally, I don't know why we have the set-up. It's not as if we don't have plenty of other places to go for sandwiches."

For years, sandwiches and hot soup were laid on for councillors taking lunchbreaks between meetings. But, faced with a huge financial black hole, councillors decided in June that the food was an unnecessary expense and unfair on city taxpayers.

However, members' catering was reintroduced just two months later on the basis that there would be no cost to the taxpayer.

Getting rid of the food had raised some concerns that councillors' eating expenses would subsequently rise.

Under Scottish Government rules, they are entitled to claim £8 a day for breakfast, £12 for lunch and £25 for dinner whenever they eat away from the City Chambers or other council premises. A city council spokesman said: "The level of income received over the trial period has been satisfactory.

"The performance of the system will continue to be monitored to ensure that the costs of lunches are covered."



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  • Last Updated: 28 January 2008 11:42 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Council
 
1

mrmoneypenny,

28/01/2008 12:21:44
http://www.edinburghsucks.com/2007/09/04/the-new-honesty-box/
2

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 28/01/2008 12:34:36
Why do they not have to pay for lunch etc like every one else in a business. Plenty sandwich places around if they don't like it.

What we have to put up with from the council and worse - pay for!!
3

alex paterson,

embra 28/01/2008 12:37:41
£45 a day for eating away from the chambers,or any other council premises,nice work if you can get it,honesty box,aye so it is.
4

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 28/01/2008 12:55:26
they get 45 p0und while a child at school gets 1 65 plus most of them claim for meals they do not have just pocket the money
5

Xena - Warrior Princess,

28/01/2008 13:32:10
If this is subsidised by taxpayers I don't see how the Council can decline to reveal the figures! They should have to pay like everyone else. Just because someone is on the minimum wage we still expect them to pay full whack.
6

Wee Keef,

In your lunchbox 28/01/2008 13:37:30
Perhaps it's just easier for Councillors to avoid paying, rather than the embarrassment of shelling out just £2.50 for soup and sandwiches. Where else on the High Street could you get a decent working lunch for £2.50?
7

Disgrunted Ebardonian,

28/01/2008 13:39:45
Councillors are dyslexic when it comes to honesty.
8

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28/01/2008 13:40:36
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9

Disgrunted Ebardonian,

28/01/2008 13:44:17
Its ok they will get their money back when they produce their expenses for the month did I hear sommeone say it was £45 for lunch, or are they going to be honest and claim £2.50?
10

Paul Voltaire,

28/01/2008 13:45:34
#9
Yes, but it is rather nice.
11

Disgrunted Ebardonian,

28/01/2008 13:48:23
Is their Canteen open to the public im sure that quite few of us wood like to mingle with the for the people councillors.
12

The Judge,

28/01/2008 13:59:36
After the honesty box was launched, it is understood that staff regularly found it to be left short at the end of the day.

In other words some councillors decided to steal their lunches instead of paying for them.
13

Pol,

edinburgh 28/01/2008 14:09:41
If their not even being honest enough with their own money...I shudder to think they are being with my tax money!...
14

alex patersons English teacher,

28/01/2008 14:52:49
15.
They're they're, calm down,you'll be making yourself sick with worry,careful.

Dont worry about them being with your money,its better than being screwed personally.
15

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28/01/2008 14:54:06
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16

alex patersons English teacher,

28/01/2008 15:06:41
17.
wee no.
17

Buggalugs,

28/01/2008 15:14:50
Mario - I thought you would have wanted them to eat cake.
18

Chris1745,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 15:43:17
#9 read the article, they're entitled to claim £12 for lunch if they eat away from the chambers!!!! They can claim £45 if they eat breakfast, lunch and dinner externally
19

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28/01/2008 16:33:57
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20

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28/01/2008 16:34:16
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21

Douglas,

Bathgate 28/01/2008 16:44:09
#22 Mario: Al Fresco can.
22

Douglas,

Bathgate 28/01/2008 16:46:20
#24,25,26,27: Aha!!
23

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 28/01/2008 16:53:42
Here in Clackmannashire, Labour Cllrs knew how to take care of expenses for food.

A few years back they introduced a system which was open to all kinds of nonsense, like folk taking in their own stuff and still claiming or even buying things at one price but claiming back more.

The local SNP group vowed to get rid of it if elected to power, which they indeed went on to do.

When the labour party were voted back into power some time later, the first thing,( and I do mean the first thing), they voted to reintroduce, was their expenses system.
24

The cook,

Scotland 28/01/2008 17:59:59
Lets get back to basics. Why should they have a free lunch anyway - the rest of us have to pay for our lunches at work and to consider putting them in as real expenses is laughable. One rule for them and the other for the rest.
25

is it me?,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 20:06:56
When a Councillor weighs in at 14 stones he/she should be made into a nourishing stew for the poor overworked underpaid Council staff. That should encourager les autres.
26

is it me?,

Edinburgh 28/01/2008 20:09:18
(Bet they're all heading for the bathroom scales right now).
27

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 28/01/2008 23:18:51
#14 - contrary to your opinion that all on here lack English comprehension some of us do and gladly I am.

You need a brain to see what the council workers are up to!! - Anything for nothing as we the tax payers have to foot the bill!!

Time for change and they were left to get their own lunch. Plenty places round about their workplace - and that would be giving busines to the local community!
28

alex patersön,

embra 29/01/2008 00:06:02
I had chips with mine!
29

alex patersön,

29/01/2008 00:12:35
"All councillors are theifs, Its as plain as your knows."

Theifs. Thiefs. Thieves.

Planely so.
30

LanneM,

Edinburgh 29/01/2008 11:00:06
Obviously we are all disgusted by this. #4 Had a very valid point... £1.65 for the children's school meal, daily and if these councillors eat out they get £45.00 for the day ... wow that would pay for 27 children's school meal.. Doesn't that say it all. It is a known fact that children can't learn properly on poor diets... these FAT COWS should be ashamed of themselves. This is blatant abuse of the taxpayers hard earned money and a sham. If they cut back on some of that £45 per day surely they could give some person employment collecting the funds as the councillors pick up their lunch. Personally I would loved to say that's enough! Let the people judge these budgets and decide what is fair... probably less crooks would go into that line of work because they couldn't scam the system as much. Sorry my dreams got away with me!
31

C U Jimmy,

Ayrshire 04/02/2008 13:33:47
This is just one of the very many perks, of a lot more that we don't know about, and so well hidden that we probably never will find out about.
32

C U Jimmy,

Ayrshire 04/02/2008 13:34:44
The tip of the iceberg.
33

Maizy,

Edinburgh 04/02/2008 16:41:44
I wouldn't mind them having an honesty box if they actually used it honestly. But I know that they don't. Some of them are still having free lunches. They should be paying for their lunch or bringing in their own like the rest of us hard working mugs
34

Evia,

08/02/2008 23:59:14
Since when were councillors honest?

 

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