Help Sitemap Home Skip Navigation Contact Us Disability Statement

Endinburgh Council
 
 
Monday, 2nd November 2009 Change Date Latest Issue

Hotel developers say lessons learnt over converting school

Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image

Published Date: 18 July 2008
A FRESH bid is under way to turn a former school boarding house into a hotel – just months after a similar scheme was thrown out.
The former St Margaret's School for Girls property in Craigmillar Park would be transformed into a 115-bedroom hotel under the new plan.

Edinburgh-based developer Ashford Property was refused planning permission for a 119-room hotel in March.

A
t the time, protesters claimed the development of the Victorian buildings, at the corner of Lady Road and Craigmillar Park, was too big, and would lead to severe traffic problems in the area.

Despite the new scheme only being slightly smaller than the original plan, developers say they are hopeful that it will get the go-ahead this time.

If the plans are approved, the hotel is expected to be run by Travelodge and would offer accommodation only, with a small, licensed cafe serving breakfast, light snacks and drinks for residents. Unlike before, there would be no provision to host large functions.

The site was previously occupied by the Oratava Hotel, in the 1970s, before it was bought out and renovated to create the St Margaret's School for Girls in 1983, and Andrew Smith of Ashford Property said the firm had worked with the local community to try to address their concerns over the planned scheme.

"The conversion of the site into a hotel, securing the heritage of a historic part of the city and enhancing local amenities, provides a fantastic opportunity for the regeneration of a currently derelict site," he said.

"We have worked closely with the local community and council in the development of our proposals – an extensive community engagement exercise has been undertaken, which included a major exhibition at the school and meetings with key stakeholders.

"The reinstatement of the site as a hotel will be both sensitive and sympathetic to the environment, retaining and restoring the existing villas, rather than seeing them demolished or continue to lie derelict."

The hotel would be created by converting two existing properties, and the scheme would be completed with the building of a new development on the surrounding land.

The company wants to demolish the existing rear block of the school, which was added in the 1970s and is described as "unsightly", and replace it with a something with a "contemporary design".

The original plans led to 78 letters of objection being submitted to the city council. Fred Mackintosh, the Lib Dem Westminster candidate for the area, was opposed to the previous plans but admitted there was an argument for developing the buildings.

Cllr Mackintosh said: "The previous plans were completely unacceptable, but I know the developers have done a lot of work to try and involve the community, who quite rightly were very opposed to their original plan."

He added: "I think with this we will need to wait and see, but it would be correct to say no-one wants to see these historic buildings lying empty and deteriorating.

"There is an argument for development, and certainly it would be good to see them in use again.

"The question is whether this is the right development."





Page 1 of 1

  • Last Updated: 18 July 2008 11:23 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Randan,

18/07/2008 12:37:27
Devlopers and councillors at it again eh!
2

Palermo,

18/07/2008 12:45:25
this building is nicer than the two "listed" buildings being deservedly lost in Caltongate...perhaps the World Heritage Site visit (of which we've heard so much recently) can stay at this hotel when they visit??
3

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 18/07/2008 12:58:46
I hope it is passed as it is needed on the south side. There wont be any large travel problems as people normally arrive later in day at travel lodges and leave early in the morning if it is business.

Neighbours are just being difficult and nothing would please them.

Of course some of them have had it good with running bed and breakfast accommodation nearby for years with not bothering on the value for money aspect.

Good on the developers and all the best to them. Time for change!!
4

Cheradenine,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 13:34:53
#1 They just never stop do they..

Imagine developers submitting a planning application and councillors considering it, completely outrageous, bring back the birch that's what I say!

(There's a mistake in there too by the way, Mr Mackintosh isn't the Councillor for the area, he's just the Lib Dem Westminster candidate, pretty sure he used to be a councillor though)
5

Beergut,

Embra 18/07/2008 14:34:34
But it used to be a hotel. It was called the "Oratava". I stayed in it once. It was obviously struggling as a hotel when it was sold off as a school.
6

Angus R,

18/07/2008 15:02:04
I stayed in it when it was an all girls school!!
7

The Landlord,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 15:24:48
Planners (money wasting civil servants) and bored OAPs standing in the way of progress again! We could fire 3/4 of the civil service who contribute nothing, cut the red tape and actually make some economic progress in this country for a change!
8

tomias,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 16:29:17
McIntosh was a councillor for this area- market forces rule.
9

alex paterson,

edinburgh 18/07/2008 16:45:39
Craigmillar Park is inundated with hotels and B&Bs,why not a posh strip joint.
10

Fred Mackintosh,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 17:13:14
Yes tomias and Cheradenine I was the councillor and am now the Liberal Democrat Westminster Spokesperson. I'm a bit cross about the way this was subbed. Taking words out can change the meaning. I've spoken to Gareth Edwards and the correct quote should be "The previous developers plans were completely unacceptable, but I know the new developers have done a lot of work to try and involve the community, who quite rightly were very opposed to the previous developers plan." The previous developers being AMA New Town who planned to knock down the villas and build two large block of flats. Hope that is a little clearer.
11

Buttress,

18/07/2008 17:17:20
Well, Mike Wade raised the Caltongate issue again in the Times yesterday.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article4354058.ece

The buildings to be demolished don't need to be, it's just lousy planning and greed.
12

Buttress,

18/07/2008 17:19:31
Pictures here:

www.eh8.org.uk

13

,

18/07/2008 23:03:07
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
14

Moscow Central 42,

18/07/2008 23:30:49

Gosh! So the man with a brain the size of a planet is cross. How terribly terribly worrying. My goodness " taking the words out can change the meaning. " How profound! Well, being a Liberal Democrat and a master of the art, he should know. The former Councillor Mcintosh mentions AMA the previous developer, a company which by the way, builds some of the finest modern structures in this City. Well thank you Mr. Mackintosh. Because of your totally crass intervention we still have two Victorian Villas of no architectural merit for development and a Travelodge in the offing.
15

Buttress,

18/07/2008 23:41:47
13, 14 Ah - the wit, charm and rapier intellect of Moscow Central bludgeons once again.

Not being Think Tank today then?

Whatever. Ignore the troll. Hasn't a clue about architecture.
16

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 19/07/2008 02:31:01
Hopefully someone can convert the old school at Currie. All of the windows on the ground floor have been boarded up on the outside, but the windows on the 1st floor are only boarded up from the inside and are now all browen.
17

Mallory,

Edinburgh 19/07/2008 02:34:31
Great spot for a 'wet hostel'. Good and close to bus routes, city centre and shops, but with few pubs and other temptations in the vicinity. Developers could transplant the Caltongate or Haymarket luxury 'abortions' here.

 

Comment on this Story

 

In order to post comments you must Register or Sign In

 
 
 
  

 
 


Sister Newspapers:
Press Complaints Commission

This website and its associated newspaper adheres to the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. If you have a complaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then contact the Editor by clicking here.

If you remain dissatisfied with the response provided then you can contact the PCC by clicking here.