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Published Date: 25 November 2008
SCOTTISH Labour leader Iain Gray has demanded a full public inquiry into the controversial closure of a Lothians nursing home.
He said there are still many unanswered questions about the closure of Cockenzie House Nursing Home this year, following claims from a local GP and relatives that the stress and disruption of moving could have contributed to the deaths of 21 elderly
residents.

The home closed in April, following a ban on admissions imposed by the Care Commission. East Lothian Council rejected owner Jim McDonald's offer to lease the home from him and instead moved residents elsewhere.

The council's action has already been criticised in the independent Daniels Report last month.

But Mr Gray, who represents the county, has written to Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon, asking her to set up a public inquiry.

He said: "The message I'm getting from local people is that there are still many unanswered questions. Residents, their relatives and local GPs were all strongly supportive of the home staying open. Yet it closed despite their concerted efforts to save it. I believe that there are wider lessons which must be learned from the Cockenzie House closure, which is why I think an inquiry is justified."

The Daniels Report had failed to address many of the main concerns, he said. The closure of Cockenzie House had resulted in moving many residents to a nearby care home, which also had a Care Commission Improvement notice against it. Most of the others were moved to the new council-owned Greenfield Park in Musselburgh.

Mr Gray said: "The cost of leasing, refurbishment and staffing of that facility was extremely expensive and contributed to a £1.5 million overspend in the adult social care budget in the first three months of this financial year.

"Why is our care system so fragmented that the Care Commission, the owner of the home, the residents and East Lothian Council all insist that they do not wish the home to close, yet that is the outcome?

"However, the unanswered question which most troubles my constituents is whether the moving of residents from Cockenzie House and the consequent upset and disruption hastened the death of any of those residents."

He said he hoped to arrange a meeting with Ms Sturgeon to explain the case for an inquiry and discuss the wider implications in the rest of Scotland.

But a spokeswoman for East Lothian Council said they were already improving adult social care as a result of the Daniels Report.

She said: "We believe that, through careful consideration of the independent review, we have identified the lessons to be learned from the circumstances of the closure. We are now in the process of implementing the report's eight recommendations."





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  • Last Updated: 25 November 2008 10:45 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Away From Home,

Middle East 25/11/2008 11:32:38
That place should have been closed years ago. I went there as an agency worker in Summer 2003, & it was like a Nazi concentration camp,- so bad that I downed tools & left half way through the day. I submitted a full report to the Tranent based nursing agency that sent me there, but they did absolutely nothing.
2

subrosa,

25/11/2008 12:00:39
"However, the unanswered question which most troubles my constituents is whether the moving of residents from Cockenzie House and the consequent upset and disruption hastened the death of any of those residents."

So Ian Gray wants a full public enquiry to answer just one question?

He should know all the details of this closure - he's the MSP.

All this posturing for a public enquiry for everything - let's start with one on the Iraq war Mr Gray.
3

tartangladbach,

edinburgh 25/11/2008 12:04:54
can we have a full public enquiry into anne moffats expenses too?
4

Breezy,

Argyll 25/11/2008 12:09:14
Ian Gray says "However, the unanswered question which most troubles my constituents is whether the moving of residents from Cockenzie House and the consequent upset and disruption hastened the death of any of those residents."

Is this guy for real ? Ask anybody who has ever had experience with caring for the elderly and they will tell you that moving them causes trauma and death in some cases.
5

Simon M,

Edinburgh 25/11/2008 12:37:00
#4 What is a your point?

Does the link between the closure of the home and resultant deaths not strengthen Mr Gray's call for a public inquiry? I'm sure the families of those who died will welcome his continuing interest in this case.

SNP-run East Lothian Council tried to kick this case into the long grass with their own internal inquiry which was a whitewash. That's just not good enough.
6

alex paterson,

edinburgh 25/11/2008 13:09:43
Ian Gray will end up in a home one day,lets hope it is like Cockenzie House.
7

Ecto,

25/11/2008 13:17:57
East Lothian council the one that tried to pay off it's disgraced Cheif Exec with a huge bung until such time as the audit commision stopped them. They are so useless they could not cancel a p*ssup is a brewery far less organise one. Typical Labour mess, clearly not enough broon envelopes in circulation!
8

Fenderman,

not here 25/11/2008 13:28:00
#4 Why don't we just assume that all the deaths were because of the move then and not waste time and money on an enquiry? Ian Gray has had an interest in this case since it was first mooted for closure so it's unfair to castigate him for his continued interest. Maybe it might change the way things are done in the future.
9

Linmal,

Livingston 25/11/2008 13:56:57
You obviously have to weigh up the pros and cons in a situation such as this. If the home is not fit for purpose then it should be closed. If it will harm patients, what then? Maybe a bit more thought should have been put into the matter and perhaps proper staff brought in and those incompetents, including the owners, sacked and the home run until the inevitable (death of all the residents) and no more residents should have been taken in. However, this was probably uneconomic and we all know money is more important than people.
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lucky girl,

cockenzie 25/11/2008 13:59:25
We the families and friends have not had any answers. The care commission and the council think that they are the only people who know best and are not prepared to listen to the people who gave them power. I am a lucky one as my father is still alive after his moves. We need to know that everything was done to assist in helping to keep the home open, the councillers did not attend any of the meetings just played god with our families lives that is how I feel. We need a public inquiry, as this is suppose to be a country with free speech, or am I dreaming, our fathers before us fought to give us the right of our freedom, give them the right to live in peace where the families trusted and believed to be the correct and right home for them. I want to close by saying a big thank you to all the Cockenzie Nursing Home Staff for the care and kindness they gave my father.
11

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 25/11/2008 15:12:35
Yes you cannot beat Labour when ot comes to the old hypocracy stakes.

Holmes, from Local council ones through private ones, to ones run by the church of Scotland
12

ochone,

Sauchie, clack's 25/11/2008 15:18:35
(sorry cut of there)

have been closed down all over Scotland in recent times, many if not most in what was Labour controlled areas, many closed just to save money, but I don't remember Labour makeing much of a stushie about them.

I've worked in an old folks home, they don't just get bad over night, so where were the calls about this home earlier.

Mr Grey didn't think it was needed then, no doubt
13

tartangladbach,

edinburgh 25/11/2008 15:48:53
the labour party leader for ten years is now a multi millionaire? socialisim certainly has changed! iain grey and co have just adopted a policy of mud slinging. they want back in power so they can get their slice of the cake!
14

gus1940,

Edinburgh 25/11/2008 18:38:22
That was today's Party Political Broadcast on behalf of The Labour Party.
15

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 25/11/2008 19:30:50
#16 & 17- I see what you mean - there does seem to be a striking similarity in textual analysis; barely literate, pathetically contrived childish style and almost total absence of punctuation. Is Kezia Dugdale still working for Lard Geordie Ffoulkes-Sake, Champion Stupid-Question Asker (850 this session and counting) and London-anointed to take charge of Labour's Scorched Earth Policies?
16

Jimmy Le Pie,

25/11/2008 19:48:07
What about a public enquiry into David Marshall, ex MP for Glasgow East, regarding alleged financial theft??

17

Jimmy Le Pie,

25/11/2008 20:04:21
What about a police enquiry into David Marshall, ex MP for Glasgow East, regarding alleged financial theft??
18

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25/11/2008 20:30:20
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lucky girl,

cockenzie 26/11/2008 13:49:35
Mr George Laird I had a father in cockenzie nursing home when he first arrived he was unable to do anything for himself and to the good care and work of the staff in the home my father now can do most things for himself. I am sorry you think I am a plant for the labour party, but if could feel a small fraction of the hurt and worry we suffered when my father had his stroke you would understand how we all feel.We though we had peace of mind dad was being well cared for, but the people in high places told us we were wrong how can so many people be wrong.
20

Ian down under,

Musselburgh 26/11/2008 20:46:47
I'm disgusted at some of the rubbish Im reading here.
Yes I am directly interested as my father was one of the residents in CHNH and he was very well cared for. His condition on arrival there in 2005 was being totally dependent for all functions. It took CHNH staff less than 3 months to get him feeding himself, toileting, washing and even walking. After his stroke in February 2005 we never thought he would ever walk again but the dedicated staff at CHNH proved us wrong.
I actually aksed the Care Commission manager directly about the 'problems' and she told me very clearly that they were about 2 pieces of paperwork, 1 to do with medicine administration and 1 to do with a written policy for pressure sores.
I asked to look at the CHNH drug admin records [I am a doctor] and I was reassured to see that they are the same as I have seen in any hospital, as for the pressure sores there was no written policy but there were no pressure sores either becuase the 'unwritten ' policy ensured there were none. Knowing how pressure sores occur i can guarantee that my Dad would have had them if the care had been less than perfect. He NEVER had any. I suggested that CHNH simply put on paper what they were already doing as this was already successful.
A few days later at a meeting with the Care Commission regional manager Laurie Davidson she said that the standard of care at CHNH was very good and was ready to put in train the readmission of residents. The next day I was on a plane to New Zealand [conveniently out of reach for them!!] and she backtracked and backtracked.
We now have the outcome we know of.
I also e-mailed Alex Salmond prior to the closure and he replied that he 'could not interfere in council business as to do so would be undemocratic', less than a week later he intervened in Aberdeenshire council business on behalf of Donald Trump. So if you want to be political lets be clear the Scottish [ha ha] National Party will support you if you are an American billio
21

Ian down under,

Musselburgh 26/11/2008 20:49:07
continued::
billionaire but if you are a SCOTTISH pensioner they do not care.
22

Ian down under,

Musselburgh 26/11/2008 20:51:11
At the meeting I went to with Laurie Davidson she actualkly criticised the owner, Jim McDonald for working in the home. It appears that absentee owneres are the preferred species.
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Ian down under,

Musselburgh 27/11/2008 01:11:22
Mr Laird
Your arrogance astounds me. My father was transferred from an NHS hospital after suffering a major stroke. I have no complaints with his treatment there and that is not the issue. He was able to have the one-on-one support at CHNH which gave him great benefit.
With regard to your demand to see the e-mails these are nothing to do with you as this issue doews not concern Glasgow University.
As a doctor I actually go to work and I am not a caregiver, as these people and the nurses in care homes actually do have relevant experience and qualifications. CHNH had a very good standard of care but the Care Commission had an abysmal standard of understanding care.
I suggest you keep to the Human rights of Glasgow University as your grasp of human rights of older people seems to be somewhat tenuous.
24

Ian down under,

Musselburgh 27/11/2008 02:40:18
Mr George Laird, Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Perhaps you could tell us which political organisation you are affiliated to. It seems from your posts that you have no personal or family involvement in CHNH so quite why would you be getting involved in this issue especially when your postings sugggest you are against the human rights of ex CHNH residents and their families.
Who do YOU speak for Mr George Laird?
I speak for myself and my family which includes my father who unfortuantely is unable to speak for himself now. I am not a member of any political party and have no affiliation with any party. however from what I have seen the SNP are against the rights of our elderly and Iain Gray has been the only person in politics who has consistently supported the victims here.
25

Issy,

anywhere but EL 27/11/2008 07:49:28
I don't understand some of these comments.
Stick to the issue.
Iain Gray is right to call for Inquiry.
Questions re closure remain unanswered.
Moving of residents contributed/caused deaths.
Daniels report was clear on history of the nursing home.
Recommendations are welcome.
The Daniles report could not cover issues re Care Commission and did not answer why the home was closed when other options were available.
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Ian down under,

Musselburgh 27/11/2008 20:47:06
My final post on this to Mr George Laird. This may be a game of politics for you. for me it is an important family issue. The fact that the SNP government and SNP council refused help is relevant. however I would have felt the same had a labour or tory government or council been in power.
This is about people, my family and you may write in posts with your high and mighty and I have to say laughable title but unless you are personally involved and unless you actually looked closely into the place then you do not have the first idea about what happened. I suggest that your department of human rights at Glasgow University perhaps needs to look at what human rights are about. If a society or a government thinks mucking old people about and shifting them from place to place causing confusion and stress is ok then I wonder what model of human rights you subscribe to and what funding your university gets from the taxes paid over many years by people like our elderly.
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Ian down under,

Musselburgh 30/11/2008 22:21:05
Mr Laird
I will enter no more postings on this site, this is my final comment. I will say that your attitude is arrogant, offensive and disgraceful for someone who is supposedly a champion of human rights.
I am not a member of ANY political party, I have no political axe to grind. My father was one of the CHNH residents and like all other families we have been mucked around.
No residents or relatives had complaints about CHNH, in fact quite the reverse. The care was excellent and we were all happy with the service.
The problem came about when East Lothian Council [SNP run incidentally] and the Care Commission entered into a process of squeezing the home and we feel with the aim of closing it down. Neither of these bodies could give satisfactory reasons for the squeeze on admissions which were actually relevant. The owner had to close the home because it became impossible to continue below a certain number of residents.
The only politician who has been of help was Iain Gray as he is the local MSP and we are grateful for his input. attempts to get help from SNP MSPs proved fruitless but they were approached for help. They chose to refuse. I did e-mail Alex Salmond and got the reply I mentioned. No I will not be sending you a copy because frankly you are not involved in this issue.
With regards to your beloved SNP perhaps they need to look at the welfare of Scots, especially the vulnerable ones before the welfare of American billionaires. I had actually e-mailed Mr Salmond optimistically because I had been led to believe he was a fair campaigner for Scots' rights. I am disillusioned by his negative response.
I suggest you turn your interest to an issue where you have both knowledge, compassion and genuine involvement. To read your abusive remarks about something which has caused great personal hurt only adds to the trauma. Human Rights campaigner are you??? You could have fooled me.

 

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