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Published Date: 10 April 2009
DRUNKS are set to be locked out of parts of a Lothian town centre with automatic gates operating on a time lock in a bid to crack down on antisocial behaviour.
Four of the gates costing £25,000 are due to be installed in entrances around the High Street in Haddington, which has been plagued by antisocial behaviour and vandalism.

The gates will close and lock automatically between 10pm and 5am, with only
residents and emergency services given swipe cards to gain entry during those times.

The network of closes in the Langriggs area have been used as drinking dens by youths and shortcuts for revellers returning home from pubs.

Many of the residents in the area are elderly, including pensioners staying in a sheltered housing complex, and they asked East Lothian Council for better security to be provided.

Edinburgh-based Urban Design Futures were commissioned to deal with the problems and came up with the time lock gates to keep out night-time troublemakers.

The gates have been specially designed to fit in with this section of the town's conservation area, which was once used as an archery range. The designs have incorporated bow and arrow insignias into the metal gates, which are around 7ft high.

Mary Denholm, 71, who lives in The Butts sheltered housing complex, said: "I'm all for the gates. If they keep people out who are noisy or drunk that can only be a good thing.

"I've a friend in England who had similar gates installed where they live and they couldn't believe the difference it made."

The electronic gates will be located at the Ross' Close, Vennel, Carlyle Close and Neilson Park entrances to Langriggs and The Butts.

The extra security forms part of a £300,000 project for the area, which also incorporates better lighting and earlier work to paths, parking and landscaping.

Selby Richardson, director of Urban Design Futures, based in West Bow, off the Grassmarket, said: "This process started three or four years ago when we were commissioned by the council to look at environmental improvements.

"We got a working group of residents together for that, and they said it would be great if the area had a better degree of protection from vandals, especially in the evening. That's when we came up with the idea of time lock gates.

"The closes are being used as a short cut between the High Street and the pubs there, and homes beyond Neilson Park. "

A planning application for the gates has been submitted by council chiefs and they are expected to be installed in the next three to six months.

An East Lothian Council spokeswoman said: "The original request came from local tenants and residents who were concerned about ongoing antisocial behaviour problems. We commissioned Urban Design Futures to put forward options which were discussed and agreed by them."





The full article contains 484 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 10/04/2009 12:06:12
There will always be the clowns who try and climb the gates.
2

DRZ400,

10/04/2009 12:26:41
They want to do the same for the High Street and other central areas of Haddington to get rid of the numpty boy racers that cause a pest there with their noisy 1.1 Novas with holes in the exhaust.
3

cabbage on tayside,

10/04/2009 12:32:37
Begs the question : If it is such a small compact area why can't Lothain and Borders finest cope with this type of problem. Too much bother ? Too much time spent out of the cosy cars ?
4

Mallory,

Edinburgh 10/04/2009 12:40:12
Too many vested interests in pubs/clubs and the nite-time economy cabbage
5

I love to eat Sellotape,

10/04/2009 13:02:39
Don't knock economy cabbage. It's tasty enough, in these straitened times.
6

aurorablue,

10/04/2009 13:37:33
introduce a nationwide curfew and name and shame offenders by slapping their faces on huge billboards ... just a suggestion. Hope the gates work but I wonder how long they will remain operational?
7

The grime reaper,

In the Toon 10/04/2009 14:04:46
And you think that's going stop them......P M S L if You do.
8

AKH,

Dalkeith 10/04/2009 15:47:24
Not the best option to solve the problem.
Additional policing at times when trouble has been caused previously is the answer.
Then fine these noisy and drunk people and boy racers using existing laws to reclaim the cost.
It should all be self-financing. Job done - no gates needed.
9

is it me?,

Edinburgh 10/04/2009 19:35:31
Should be fun when the drunks get themselves locked INSIDE the gates.
10

Call me cynical, but,.........,

have a guess 11/04/2009 09:34:35
You`re lucky if you see the police at night in Haddington, and the low life neds and chavettes that congregate in the town centre and make residents lives a misery know this.
Despite the town centre being covered by CCTV nothing ever happens to these trouble makers and drunks. You`re lucky if the police car drives by ( without stopping obviously)once a night.
It`s as if the police and community wardens( who are even rarer a sight than the police ) don`t want to move these groups of wee neds on, as then they`ll get complaints from other areas of the town about their behaviour, and maybe have to get out their comfy cars and use their feet for a change.
11

sjs,

Haddington 11/04/2009 10:45:24
I think this is a bit much. If the drunks can't take "short cuts" they will just have to walk another way!! This is pandering to the stuck up people who live in the areas affected and unfair on everyone else who will suffer. The real issue, as pointed out above, is the fact that disorderly behaviour does not get reported. If crime in Haddington was that bad, the polis would be patrolling it at night en mass. But it is not. We just have to bow down to the old people who now rule the roost. What's the bets they were staggering around drunk when their legs could still handle it?
12

Finfin,

Haddington High Street 22/04/2009 22:49:36
As having lived in haddington (the high street at that) since a young age i think this is the worst idea the coucil have come up with. We are undergoing a world wide ressesion and our council have nothing better to spend our money on than than an untested, possibly rediculis restriction.
Personally after living here just beside the george hotel i believe the neds as you call them will start tearing the place apart!! The gates and time locks will only give them something more to do! They have nothing to do in haddington what so ever for under 18's so personally i think your problem is getting activitys and making the surrounds better to grow up in cause thats what drives them to act mental!!

Also OAP's fair enough they get it rough with the noise at night but surely they should have just booked themselves into a quieter area rather than choosing the busiest pathway for School kids, poeple going to the rugby club and the gym?
Also drunks are what you get in a small town, be glad it isnt tranent..

13

Sophisticated robust,

Edinburgh 23/04/2009 23:00:25
Drunk People walking through vennals and others with noisy cars my word it does sound pretty bad in Haddington.

Maybe the last guy has a point when he says "be glad it isn't Tranent" but one things for sure Tranent isn't full of "would be's" mumping and moaning over what is, let's face it trivial nonsense. The problem is everyone has something to say in the "capital" of East Lothian and if they just stopped to think for a moment how good the quility of life is in Haddington in comparison with the "other towns" then you might just realise how lucky you all are.

And one other thing i bet there's no plans in place to put up gates or fences in an effort to improve things anywhere else in East Lothian, no because you live in HADDINGTON.
14

weaz,

09/07/2009 15:43:33
Having lived in Haddington and North Berwick I completely agree with #12 and #13 - do you not think the money should be spent on actual crime?

Admittedly this can lead to more serious issues but are they better puting such a scheme in place, in haddington or trying somewhere a bit more relevent like Tranent or the Pans?

 

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