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Terrified by a tourist's camera? Snap out of it



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Published Date: 29 April 2008
MEMBERS of the public – of which I am one – have their uses when it comes to tackling Osama Bin Laden and/or child pornography. Nothing gives me a greater thrill than the thought of being a front-line foot soldier against the evil forces of international terrorism and paedophilia.
In the old days, this might have required joining the army or erecting a Stop And Search Barrier around the nearest swing park. Now all I need to do is find someone with a camera and point them out to the police. Given how many of these photographic ne'er-do-wells one finds lurking all over Edinburgh, many of whom are also clearly foreigners, it can only be a matter of time before I help avert a "major incident" and/or ruin someone's holiday.

Taking photographs has become a suspicious thing to do in the UK. One man was ordered by police to delete his photographs after being "caught" taking pictures of ex-Eastender Letitia Dean turning on the Christmas lights in Ipswich, and not because the policeman in question felt that the photographs might one day be used as evidence of an incredibly dull life. As you may know, there are posters all over the London Underground warning about the dangers of photography and what these so-called photographers might be up to.

Most of these people are up to nothing more or less than bad photography and it would be amusing indeed if the police were stopping them on grounds of good taste. "Excuse me, sir, but getting your chum to stand on the North Bridge side-on with his mouth wide open in a manner that suggests he is eating Edinburgh Castle has been done many times; go snap one of Greyfriars Bobby sitting on his head – far less common."

Much is made of the phrase "letting the terrorists win". If "stopping the terrorists" means that everyday activities like photography become a minefield of legal interpretation, then not only have the terrorists won, they are dancing a jig on the grave of our ordinary freedoms. Not to say sounding a death-knell for tourists – who wants to come here and not take photographs?

Could the Scottish Parliament possibly take it upon itself to announce that rather than walking down the same duff route as our southern brethren, we will instead embrace the concept that the best defence of an open society is openness and that our people are to be trusted until proven otherwise? Or should we wave goodbye to these most normal of things? And our tourists?

Amy the scapegoat
Some people are a bit too excited about Amy Winehouse. If she wasn't a popular singer/songwriter, Winehouse's antics would not stand out from those of the army of drunk slappers that inundate our streets after dark.

Am I wrong in detecting a bit of sexism here? There have been plenty of male celebrities whose rabble-rousing lifestyle has been simply laughed off as part of their endearing character.

Those in Scotland expressing their concern at Winehouse's admittedly unfortunate demeanour after one of her regular benders would be better off getting concerned and actually doing something about those in their own lives who could do with some help. As such, Amy Winehouse isn't a bad role model; she's a convenient distraction from home truths.

Self-policing adds up
Enabling the Lothian Chief Constable to be part of his own assessment is both wise and welcome. Yes, he's paid a lot more than the average. Is his job even remotely similar to the average? No. How do you think his salary compares to some of those currently engaged in mid-table mediocrity "battle" – I use the word advisedly – for either Hibs or Hearts?

Better policing doesn't happen by itself. If making the millions of pounds spent on policing work harder costs less than half a police car, then what's the big deal? Ideal, no; effective? Let's see.


The full article contains 668 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 29 April 2008 8:38 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Brian Hennigan
 
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29/04/2008 09:28:40
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Ron S,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 10:15:38
#1 I agree.
I suspect the writer 'dined well' before penning this piece - I really do not understand the point.
Would someone please explain to me the meaning of .." As you may know, there are posters all over the London Underground warning about the dangers of photography and what these so-called photographers might be up to."
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Ruxpin,

29/04/2008 11:09:34
I use the London Underground every day and have yet to see one of these posters. Also, I have yet to see a policeman stopping anyone taking a photograph. I think Brian Hennigan may be self-medicating in order to fill the column inches.
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Iain fae Elgin,

29/04/2008 12:11:05
"Would someone please explain to me the meaning of .." As you may know, there are posters all over the London Underground warning about the dangers of photography and what these so-called photographers might be up to." "

Well, there are posters. They are papery things. They have been stuck up, with glue maybe, in a far of city called London. (I know, horribly non-parochial, but bear with me). Terrorists have been known to use recconaisance techniques such as hanging around to stake out possible targets. Sometime they might take the odd snap too. Just for the memories you understand.
So the Police have asked people to take note of people taking photographs. A bit OTT admittedly, but hey, this is a city where looking nothing like a suspected terrorrist and vaulting ticket barriers can seriously intterupt your commute.

Got it yet?
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Boy Wonder,

29/04/2008 12:22:35
Thank you for showing us what Brian Hennigan looks like, EN. Now we know who to avoid in future ... and if he ever takes a pic of me and mine without asking permission ... I'll have him in court and we'll see what develops!
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Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

29/04/2008 12:31:40
"MEMBERS of the public – of which I am one ..."

More keen insight from an Evening News columnist. What next, I wonder? The intro "It was once a grape. Or several to be precise." has already been claimed, of course ...
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Digby Hepplethwaite,

Intro of the week 29/04/2008 12:32:04
"MEMBERS of the public – of which I am one..."

Ernest Hemingway it's not.
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A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington 29/04/2008 12:41:11
If a policeman told me to delete photographs, I'd tell him where to get off and take his badge number. Outside of certain defence-related establishments, we're all entitled to take as many photographs in public places as we damn well please. If the police even want to see the photographs, they need a search warrant or say pretty please.
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PaulB,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 12:45:26
Thank you Brian for standing up this Big Brother style society we seem to be lving in today - I'm confident that Scottish police are much better at distinquishing between a suspected terrorist and an innocent tourist than their London counterparts - I just cannot beleive how paranoid this whole country is becoming.
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Digby Hepplethwaite,

And then there's the conclusion 29/04/2008 12:52:37
"Better policing doesn't happen by itself. If making the millions of pounds spent on policing work harder costs less than half a police car, then what's the big deal? Ideal, no; effective? Let's see."

What on earth does this mean? Doesn't anyone edit this newspaper?
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Jenny MacArthur,

29/04/2008 13:03:08
Both the paedophilia panic and 'war on terrorism' are hysterical over-reactions to problems, that cause more problems than they solve. The sheep who parrot what they're told to by the media on these issues are mere propaganda fodder for right wingers who want reasons to control us even more than we are already. But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good moral panic?
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Ruxpin,

29/04/2008 13:07:25
No.9 - please do not believe everything you read in a news article. I am a Scot living in London, working in central London. There are no police officers arresting tourists/photographers on an ad hoc basis. I see no glaringly obvious posters about this topic on the underground and I have never heard of this before the EEN needed more fanciful stories to fill its column inches. I know that with a website to fill as well as a daily rag, the need to fill space becomes more desparate, and the journalists are limited in what passes as genuine news. Thus, you get scaremongering rubbish like this.
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Iain fae Elgin,

29/04/2008 13:15:06
#12...read a few issues of the British Journal of Photography and you'll realise that this is not scaremongering but a fact of life for many photographers engaged in photography of events/demonstrations/everyday life.

Just because you haven't encountered it does not make it 'savcremongering rubbish'
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Iain fae Elgin,

29/04/2008 13:16:03
Whatever "savcremongering" means...ooops....go to the bottom of the class... :(
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PaulB,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 13:17:39
#12 This story was on the BBC News website last week - it specifically mentioned posters in London - Brian is not the first journalist to pick up the story and highlight the paranoia and fear being instilled into us. What kind of society tries to stop people taking photos in railway stations or other public places? What next - spy cameras in the streets and car recognition cameras on our roads? Oh sorry, forgot, we have them already. Big Brother is watching us all!
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Ruxpin,

29/04/2008 13:22:33
No.13 - The article implies that the public / tourists are being targeted for minor things like taking pictures of "ex-Eastender Letitia Dean turning on the Christmas lights". To imply this, is ridiculous beyond extreme. I am sure your reference to the "British Journal of Photography" can name specific instances, but lets not get hysterical about it. Next thing you know, we will have a recession, just cos the papers say we will. And yes, please note the correct spelling of "scaremongering" in my comments.
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29/04/2008 13:24:59
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Ruxpin,

29/04/2008 13:26:41
No.15 - where is all this "paranoia and fear being instilled into us". I know no-one who has this complaint. As I say, I am not unobservant, and I have yet to see one of these posters in London (despite what the BBC website says).
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tomias,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 13:26:47
Sorry got done this morning together with identi-pic.
Outside High Court at Anwars trial- Could not move for cameras!And not all BBC/TV types either.
Me_ See BBC Scot ce soir !OK I am indiguise,nae tie( hidden actually).
Oh and a school goup being shown around parliament Square- hmm boys AND girls,
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Ruxpin,

29/04/2008 13:36:45
No.20 - I can get hold of a number for adult literacy classes, you look like you need it.
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Brian Hill,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 13:45:27
Interesting article by Brian Hennigan with some serious issues boldly emerging from his amusing piece. Paulb and Iain make some very good points but Jenny really hits the nail on the head.

Some of the other posters should go back, read the article, read the posts mentioned and wonder if their current position needs to be reviewed.

Brian's plea to the Scottish Parliament not to walk the same route as our Southern neighbours is particularly pertinent. The English are clones of America, we certainly do not want to be clones of England.

Perhaps Brian could write about some of the lunacy that the right wing, PC brigade have brought to American courts over the past 5 years. You quite literally could not make it up.

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Ruxpin,

29/04/2008 13:50:23
No.22 - how sanctimonious of you. Thank you for being a presiding judge over the content of the comments. I for one will review my position. Not.
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

29/04/2008 13:50:39
The Problem with columnists is that they have to produce a column . It doesnt matter what its about.

Any old carp will do.
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

29/04/2008 13:52:42
Humans scare me. If just about any of you SPOKE to me in this language with these crazy ideas in your heads , I would be off.

Right out of town. I would tell the police.
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gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 13:54:58
Does this guy get paid for this?
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

29/04/2008 14:05:09
26 the good news is - probably not much.
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Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 15:23:56
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What should make you cringe is the fact that the man is right. Every freedom we lose is a victory for terrorism and fascism. Of course being a bit of a fascist yersell it wouldnt bother you too much only the fact that somebody points it out is annoying eh??
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Alfred E. Neuman,

29/04/2008 16:19:47
30 Some old fashioned common sense

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

Powerful, and true. Our grandparents gave up alot, maybe it's we celebrated that with more freedoms.
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Iain fae Elgin,

29/04/2008 16:55:02
#16....i was chiding myself for spelling 'scaremongering' incorrectly, not you.

Join me at the bottom of the class..
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john z,

edinburgh 29/04/2008 19:20:07
Well done Mr Hennigan for highlighting the issue of photography and nonsense policing.

Anybody involved in taking pictures as a pro or amateur, is now all too aware of the many, many stories from all over the country of police, and especially PCSO's (the kid-on police), stopping perfectly innocent members of the public taking pictures.

It is an important aspect of a democracy, the freedom to take photographs. Just imagine if the police could at a whim round up press photographers if they had caught the police or a politician doing something they shouldn't. This really is very important.

As a point of law, a police officer (real police), or a pcso (kid-on police) are breaking the law, and committing an offence if they insist you delete photographs. They have NO power to do so. If faced with this situation, especially with a pcso, call the police, and ask them under what law you are being asked to delete pictures.

In addition, if you are on private property, you can legitimately be asked to stop taking photographs, and you should comply. But you CANNOT be forced to delete pictures/ hand over film. If asked by an aggressive security guard or someone takes your camera from you, then that is theft, plain and simple. Call the police.

To some of the posters above criticising this article, quite frankly you have not got a clue what you are on about. It is a REAL problem, and the columnist has done well to highlight it.
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R Corbett,

Robert Corbett (Edinburgh) 29/04/2008 20:47:35
This column should have streamimg of The Benny Hill theme to go along with it.

If you'd told me (in particular the Winehouse riff) was written by someone doing Standard Grade Media Studies, I'd think, nah, it's nowhere near as accomplished as that
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Teamdroid,

30/04/2008 06:52:53
What I find hilarious about these photography warning posters is, the people who think they're a sensible precaution, are the same who used to scoff at tinpot Third World countries where tourists weren't allowed to snap government buildings. They just don't get it.
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SeriouslyAmused,

Ayr 30/04/2008 11:04:04
The posters appeared in London magazines and papers as well as on the tube. It was produced by the Met in association with British Transport Police (going by the police symbols at the bottom of the poster). It showed a series of greyed out cameras with one highlighted and the words "Thousands of people take photos every day. What if one of them seems odd?"

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence as well as confirmed stories of police harrassing photographers, amatuer and professional and seizing their film or digital card. Google for police and photography and you will get some eye openers.

 

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