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Published Date: 14 March 2008
MORE than 80 people caught relieving themselves in public in the Lothians have been hit with on-the-spot fines for antisocial behaviour in the last six months.
Following new powers which came into effect last summer police have being handing out £40 penalties to offenders for urinating in a public place.

Police revealed today a total of 425 fines have been given out for antisocial incidents such
as road-rage arguments, being drunk and incapable and minor street disturbances.

Around 70 people a month are now being fined, although police chiefs expect that number to rise to 100 in the coming year.

Offenders such as vandals and noisy drunks were previously dealt with using more traditional powers, and it was hoped the fines would reduce antisocial behaviour and help clear a backlog of court cases.

A police spokesman said: "By issuing a £40 fine for certain types of offences, the amount of time previously spent by officers making an arrest, taking the person into the police station, completing paperwork and attending court has been reduced.

"From that perspective it is clear that the introduction of on-the-spot fines has had a positive impact on the way officers deal with low-level offences."

Under the six-month crackdown, three individuals were fined for refusing to leave a licensed premises, 82 for urinating in public, 11 for vandalism, 28 for drinking in public, 265 for breach of the peace and 17 for malicious mischief.

The legislation also allows fines for being drunk in a licensed premises, being drunk in charge of a child in public and loud singing or playing music, although officers are yet to penalise any of these offences in the Lothians.

The fines are issued using new hand-held electronic notebooks, or PDAs, but many officers in the city centre have not yet been taught how to use them.

At least 800 frontline police are now using the PDAs, but this is expected to double in the next year as virtually all beat officers are brought up to speed.

In the scheme's first six months, 234 fines were issued in Edinburgh, 116 in Midlothian and East Lothian, and 75 in West Lothian.

Offenders have to pay within 28 days and the fines can be challenged in court. The notices are not issued to under-16s and payment is not be recorded as a criminal conviction.

A Scottish Government spokesman said: "Officers across Scotland, including in Lothian and Borders, now have the ability to take swift and visible action against lower-level offences, while being able to spend more time where the public want them - on our streets."





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14/03/2008 12:41:47
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/03/2008 12:47:38
At last they seem to be enforcing existing laws. You see, they do work and there is no need for additional laws.

#1 has a good point though.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

14/03/2008 12:59:05
Maybe they should be forced to mop it up...could be worse, could be France...widnae be suprised if auld Sarkozy didnae whip it oot in broad daylight there and hose doon the nearest wa'
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Andy Pandy,

Sunny Loanhead 14/03/2008 13:20:40
There should be more news like this - it sure beats the war in Darfur for making my Friday! I'm sorry I missed the first 2 points though
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Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 14/03/2008 13:26:59
> Following new powers which came into effect last summer police have being handing out £40 penalties to offenders for urinating in a public place. <

Have they got nothing better to do with their time than this? Nobody objects if it's small children or animals - and now that most public lavatories have been closed down and sold off, what are people supposed to do?
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artemisclyde,

14/03/2008 13:46:24
#7 - either wait till they get home or go before they leave the pub.

honestly, you can make excuses for absolutely anything.

NOthing worse than seeing some drunken fool with his lad out in public while the next day the stairwell will reek of pish.
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Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 14/03/2008 13:54:11
#8, I can think of plenty of things worse than that - murder, rape, assault, mugging, burglary, vandalism, etc, etc, etc.

Time the police concerned themselves with real crime and not with nonsense like this.
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The Hallucinist,

14/03/2008 13:56:35
Easy work for the Police these days. Fining people for peeing in the street, minor road offences, and people singing in the street after a couple of beers. Easy for Police to dish out and plenty money for the system.

Meanwhile, some poor sod is getting stabbed or getting a good hiding and the nearest police are sitting in McDonalds treating themselves to a McFlurry.

I would be quite happy reading articles like this, if the Police were brave enough and apt enough to deal with more serious crime in the lothians.

Same old story though.
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Ron D,

Edinburgh 14/03/2008 13:58:44
Why aren't dog owners obliged to mop up their dog's puddles of p!ss?
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artemisclyde,

14/03/2008 14:00:11
no, your right. low level anti-social behaviour is absolutely fine. people have a right to puke up in the street on the way home, or pish in the streets without any reprimands.

coppers on the beat are doing their job if they see people doing this. i would agree, if something more pressing was happening, then the cops should leave the person alone and attend to a more urgent matter, but really, as a society we should be better than peeing in the streets, but sadly however, we're not.

if you'd like to give me your address, i'll pop round your house and leave a present in your stairwell if you like? free of charge.
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The Hallucinist,

14/03/2008 14:01:44
#12 Better not give you my address, you might get fined!!!!
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Terri,

14/03/2008 14:02:03
As my oh who is a retired police officer says ''the jobs f@cked''.
If they want to make money they only need to go to Leith Links at the weekend,Loads of football on, plenty of men far to lazy to walk back to the changing rooms just whap it out and pizz up the nearest tree.
Lovely sight so it is.
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Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 14/03/2008 14:03:39
#12, I'd prefer that to your burgling me or beating me up, but it's too much to ask the police to bother about things like that, I suppose.
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The Hallucinist,

14/03/2008 14:06:17
#15 Correct - I would much rather be hospitalised by some thugs and go through months rehabilitation and councelling, as opposed to someone pis*ing in my street.
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Gothic Rose,

14/03/2008 14:31:56
What are the syvors for.[Not sure about the spelling]
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Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 14/03/2008 15:23:28
# 17 Gothic Rose

Sivers
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14/03/2008 15:27:05
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14/03/2008 16:51:42
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Teofilio Cubillas,

14/03/2008 16:53:18
I think most cops turn a blind eye to someone who has made an effort to get out of the way and take a leak behind a bush or in a deserted car park. What they don't tolerate is people p1ssing in shop doorways or in stairs. And quite right too. If 'Urban Guerilla' thinks that is acceptable behaviour it's clear he/she doesn't have to clean it up. Obviously quite happy to leave that to an OAP cleaner on minimum wage the next morning.
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Mahamewanceagain,

Still in Occupied Territory 14/03/2008 18:11:27
To my eternal shame, since we are into confession mode, I got fined (and barred) for having a p1zz in the Commie Pool a few years ago....................

Mind you, I was on the top diving board at the time....
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Gothic Rose,

14/03/2008 20:25:19
Thankyou Rambo.:)
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hibeeboy,

15/03/2008 11:37:56
i got caught on waverley bridge about 13 years ago, £25 fine, sometimes you just gotta do what ye just gotta do....
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elayne,

14/08/2008 12:47:22
if they are going to wee in street at least find somewhere discreet,not in someones close,against folks doors etc,there are plenty wee vennels and alleys where hardly a soul goes!worst one i heard about was a drunk guy "doing a poo"outside a certain notorious pub in west of edinburgh,some folk have no shame!

 

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