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Published Date: 28 October 2008
THEY'RE as much a part of Christmas as uneasy family get-togethers and festive decorations going up in September.
But it seems the traditional Santa's grotto has a competitor, and this one is less worried about how good you've been.

Bosses at Edinburgh Dungeon today defended plans for "Satan's Grotto" after the idea incurred the wrath of former city council leader and ordained Church of Scotland minister Ewan Aitken.

Mr Aitken, secretary of the Church of Scotland's church and society council, branded the gimmick "offensive in the extreme", and said the attraction risked upsetting members of the Capital's Christian community with the stunt, which is being promoted as an "Antichrist-mas grotto".

The city councillor said he was angry the Dungeon was marketing the grotto as an alternative to the Christmas message. "That's absolutely offensive and I take great exception to that," he said. "They would not dare do that to any other faith community and there will be members of the Christian community that will be offended.

"My focus at Christmas is on the power of forgiveness and hope. Their (the Dungeon's] suggestion that their alternative is better is offensive in the extreme."

He added: "My hope at Christmas is that we look at the positive message of Christ – to love our enemies. I doubt you would find any of that message at Edinburgh Dungeon's Satan's Grotto."

The promotional material for the grotto shows a kidnapped Father Christmas hanging from his wrists in Satan's "lair".

Publicity for the attraction says: "The Old Devil has kidnapped Santa and made himself the evil king of Christmas."

It then asks visitors to offer up their soul to the "Prince of Darkness" in return for a Christmas wish, adding that only the "naughtiest" will be rewarded.

It is not the first time the Dungeon has courted controversy.

Earlier this year the Market Street attraction fell foul of the Advertising Standards Authority, which ruled posters showing dismembered limbs to promote a William Wallace exhibit, were "too offensive for public display".

The Dungeon had previously been subject to a police investigation after the Commission for Racial Equality complained about a one-day ban on English visitors to commemorate the 1298 Battle of Falkirk.

A spokeswoman for the Dungeon said: "We don't want to offend people. This is something that is supposed to be humorous and a bit tongue-in-cheek. It's for all those who say 'Bah, Humbug!' to Christmas."


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1

I C Weiner,

The real world 28/10/2008 11:59:04
There's probably no God so stop worrying and enjoy your life.
2

alex paterson,

edinburgh 28/10/2008 12:03:56
Ewan Aitken should be locked away for good in a dungeon,and a Merry Christmas to him.
3

Langenburger,

28/10/2008 12:16:43
A nice and humorous idea. The Dungeon have obviously remembered the joke where the dyslexic devil worshipper sold his soul to Santa.
Rev Ewan is welcome to have "his" personal focus of forgiveness and hope Christmas and good luck to him. Maybe he should practice what he preaches and "forgive" The Dungeon and "hope" they have a busy Yuletide.
Xmas is for everyone not just those who choose to give it religeous significance.
4

Chubby,

28/10/2008 12:19:44
Sorry, im confused.. Was it Jesus or Santa that was God's son? If it was jesus they strung up, okay they may have a point.. But its a fictional character!!!!!
5

Prin the Dissolving Donkey,

28/10/2008 12:34:57
Plus, it's rubbish.
6

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 28/10/2008 12:39:19
I had a quick word with my buddy God about this and he tells me he's not too bothered about it.
7

Scat Man,

28/10/2008 12:40:31
#4

wwwaaaahhhhhhhhh boooohoooooo you've spoiled christmas forever.

Scat Man, Aged 6
8

Franky McNostril,

Williamsburg, Brooklyn NYC 28/10/2008 12:44:06
It is offensive - people from the Shinto religion don't know who Satan, Santa and Jeses are, nor do they know Xmas.

They need to have a winter festival, with a generalised enemy instead of satan, - here are my sugggestions:

Baron Breenback
9

Franky McNostril,

Williamsburg 28/10/2008 12:45:00

darth vader

gripper stebson

stookie
10

elayne,

28/10/2008 12:47:29
#5 ghosts do exist(i had experience with "johhny one arm"lol)
i think this idea is just a bit of fun,of course someone will always get their knickers in a twist about it
11

Franky McNostril,

Williamsburg, Brooklyn NY 28/10/2008 12:50:48
#11 I seen a ghost once. It was at a spot where a UFO had crashed in Omaha in 1956, It was the ghost of an alien. It was holding its pointy alien head in its left arm.
12

Peedie Paws,

28/10/2008 12:51:06
Sorry. I'm laughing cos its just so funny that once again the ED is in the poop house. Its a dungeon, not Santa's grotto for hell's sake! If they want to nail Santa to a cross, or chain him up to a wall, then they will and folk will complain about it cos it gets them publicity. I know Ewan and to look at him you wouldn't think he was a C of S minister!
13

Simon M,

Edinburgh 28/10/2008 12:52:09
As #5 states, the Edinburgh Dungeon is overpriced rubbish. Why does the Evening News print this stuff every time the place "courts controversy" (code for sets out to deliberately offend to get some column inches)?
14

elayne,

28/10/2008 12:56:41
the one in london is much better
15

Louis Catorze,

28/10/2008 12:57:29
HOw tedious it must be to go through life being offended by this inconsequential nonsense.
16

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 28/10/2008 13:14:29
Just one big laugh. Where is this Aitken's sense of humour?

Mr Aitken should be looking inward at his church as comments like this could just be one of the reason that their 'flocks' are diminishing.

I wonder if he will be dooking for apples on 31st!

If Muslims want to dress Santa in White I wonder if he would complain. What the ell does it matter!


17

JT,

28/10/2008 13:21:37
Time for Cllr Aikten to get a life! So called christians are always telling us that Santa is nothing to do with the real story of christmas, so chaining santa up shouldnt offend anyone really??? The funny thing is, that the instance you start moaning about something people become curious and want to go and see what the fuss is about.
18

Decent,

28/10/2008 13:24:51
Nobody's even funny today. And I can't wind anyone up.
19

Franky McNostril,

Brooklyn NY 28/10/2008 13:28:23
#21

It's like the stockmarket. Today's a dud. See yous tomorrow.
20

Decent,

28/10/2008 13:32:46
Ok Franky - oh you were quite funny on another story. Better yesterday though.
21

Salvatori,

28/10/2008 13:37:43
Jeez.... sigh.

All this fuss over three non-existant individuals, one of whom was invented by Coca-Cola.
22

linzilou,

edinburgh 28/10/2008 13:40:53
Wasn't this story in the EN last year?
23

Bonzo,

28/10/2008 13:44:52
#26
This 'story,' or one indistinguishable from it, is in the EN about once every two weeks. Pathetic.
24

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

28/10/2008 13:46:05
"Mr Aitken, secretary of the Church of Scotland's church and society council, branded the gimmick "offensive in the extreme", and said the attraction risked upsetting members of the Capital's Christian community"

Earth to Mister Aitken: There is no human right not to be offended.
25

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

28/10/2008 13:47:33
"They would not dare do that to any other faith community"

Hmmm. How about an "All you can eat" during Ramadan?
26

Salvatori,

28/10/2008 13:49:13
JB - could well be!

Whilst his focus is on forgiveness and hope at Christmas, my focus is getting as many good presents as possible and drinking gallons of booze.

Got to feel sorry for his kids at Crimbo though:

"What's in the box Dad"?
"Ahh it's a box of forgiveness... hope you like it."
27

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

28/10/2008 13:49:34
"The promotional material for the grotto shows a kidnapped Father Christmas hanging from his wrists in Satan's "lair".

So this is different how exactly from material showing Jesus being crucified?
28

Jenny MacArthur,

28/10/2008 13:50:19
Evil religious gay-bashing megapixie-worshipping freaks should keep their nasty interfering noses out of the lives of the sane majority. Tell this bigoted Aitken bully where to get off from trying to control everyone else with his insane ideas about us being controlled by some invisible friend of his!
29

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

28/10/2008 13:56:34
Where's Jenny MacArthur? I thought this'd be sure to provoke a good "Big Pixie in the Sky" rant form her. Perhaps she's been kidnapped by angels?
30

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

28/10/2008 13:58:46
Damn. How does she DO that?
31

Prin the Dissolving Donkey,

28/10/2008 14:11:04
Last Christmas
I gave you my spleen
The very next day
It went on eBay
32

Top Floor,

28/10/2008 14:54:27

Lighten up Ewan, it's a tacky promotional stunt.

That said, it's no coincidence that Santa is an anagram of Satan.
33

Prin the Dissolving Donkey,

28/10/2008 14:54:41
Last Christmas
I gave you an STD
34

Cod,

Winkin profusely 28/10/2008 15:01:00
#41

I know. I'm still itchin'
35

Decent,

28/10/2008 15:33:08
Hard to tell coz they've done away with the picture - but he looks like the real one to me.
36

exile-lad,

28/10/2008 15:56:49
thats just like the Church of Scotland or any other religon trying to change things to suit them and over power the non believers - each to their own - if it bothers Ewan Aitken that much dont go to the dungeon go to your church instead - one point is that Santa is a lie he does not bring your kids prezzies the man (Santa) has made me lie to my kids for years and my parents to me - so how many other lies come from the religons ??????? you choose whats true and whats not -
- - Religon the cause of many wars !
37

Decent,

28/10/2008 16:18:03
It's not lies it's a wee bit fantasy- make-believe! It's magical for children. You should have make your kids jehova's then and see how much fun they have at Christmas. Scrooge.
38

exile-lad,

28/10/2008 16:22:50
Bah Humbug !
39

elayne,

28/10/2008 16:31:09
#18 he is supposedly a ghost of one john cheisly who haunts the dalry area(and pretty scary he is too)teh heavy breathing freaked me out lol
40

SPG,

edinburgh 28/10/2008 16:39:54
The amount of money Ewan Aitken and his ilk steal off us incurs my wrath.
41

Finbarr Saunders,

28/10/2008 17:50:21
Either the publicist at the Dungeon is a genius or someone in the EEN getting a wee backhander for all the publicity this place gets in these pages?

Ewan Aitken is just making himself look silly by getting his knickers in a twist over this.

Is he gonnae get upset about the increasing popularity of Hallow'een celebrations next?
42

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

28/10/2008 18:18:04
Oh yeah. We're bound to get some fundies whining that Halloween is devil-worship and we should ban it to protect the children.

That seems to be one of our more unfortunate imports from the Bible-Belt US.

43

sligohibee,

28/10/2008 19:27:37
No7.
Is that the God at Easter Road?
44

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 28/10/2008 21:22:39
looked.like.the.lord.provost.to.me.like.his.new.robes
45

Pilrig.,

Livingston 28/10/2008 21:28:50
52 - Easter Road aka the Holy Ground !
46

Julian.,

edinburgh 28/10/2008 23:10:53
Euan Aitken said:-

"My hope at Christmas is that we look at the positive message of Christ – to love our enemies"

Does that mean we have to love Osama Bin Laden?

 

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