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Published Date: 05 November 2008
AN embattled shopkeeper resorted to using a tin of black paint to cover up double yellow lines which appeared "out of nowhere" outside his Leith Walk store as part of the tram works.
Gordon Burgess, owner of the Bed Shop, said he was forced to take action after failing to get a response from tram firm TIE over the new restrictions.

Mr Burgess, chairman of the Leith Walk Traders' Association, concealed the offending traffic restrictions with a roller and two tins of paint yesterday afternoon.

He said: "These double yellow lines appeared out of nowhere at the weekend. TIE knew nothing about it when I contacted them and I demanded their immediate removal.

"I had to take matters into my own hands because we are absolutely fed up. It shouldn't take a shopkeeper to go and do it. The yellow lines should not have been there in the first place, but it took me 35 minutes with a couple of tins of paint and a roller to get rid of them. It was very therapeutic, I have to say."

Mr Burgess, who says his business has suffered as a result of the ongoing tram works, said he believed contractors had mistakenly painted the lines in an attempt to reinstate the street ahead of the Christmas embargo on work. Traders in Leith Walk are set for their first break from the tram roadworks in 18 months under the city centre embargo.

Businesses have taken the brunt of the tram works so far and many have complained that the disruption has cost them thousands of pounds in lost revenue.

Mr Burgess added: "Somebody has decided to reinstate the road as it was, but there were never yellow lines there, so it's a complete mystery. As soon as I had painted out the lines, the whole block was filled with cars."

A spokesman for TIE said the double yellow lines had been painted in error and the mistake had since been rectified by one of the company's contractors.

Last month, residents of Leith Walk reacted angrily after it emerged that nearly every tree on the street is to be chopped down.

Locals claimed the street would be left a "concrete, stone and tarmac desert".

TIE needs to chop down the 20-year-old trees to move utility pipes, but it intends to replace them by planting trees in side streets around Leith Walk. Tram chiefs also said they would plant two trees for every one felled across the city.


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  • Last Updated: 05 November 2008 10:19 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

allknowing,

05/11/2008 11:45:08
Tie really are losing the plot. Its not too late to cancel this farce.
2

Concerned of Leith,

05/11/2008 11:49:16
Why are these tram contractors being allowed to run amok? Isn't TIE supposed to be managing this project? Who will pay for Gordon's paint?
3

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 11:57:22
#2

And how much will the contractors bill us all for painting them in the first place?
4

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 12:10:41
I can think of plenty of places where there shouldn't be double yellow lines---or even single yellow lines.

This tram project is turning into something out of a Monty Python sketch, only it's not funny. Scrap it now.
5

Leith Walk Trader,

05/11/2008 12:18:16
#3, #5 tie have admitted that the lines were painted in error (by their contractor Carillion - without their knowledge). It was their lack of action in removing the lines which prompted Mr Burgess to act as he did.
6

Glenda,

blah 05/11/2008 12:23:52
Big pat on the back to Mr. Burgess - someone standing up to the TIE idiots - Hurrah!!
7

Leith Walk Trader,

05/11/2008 12:24:39
tie are bound by their Code of Construction Practice to replace trees in a ratio of two to one, as close as possible to the original site.

http://www.leithtraders.com/index.php?view=article&catid=24%3Atie-cocp&id=172%3Atree-replacement&option=com_content&Itemid=39

The replacement trees may be up to half a mile from their original locations - per tie/CEC representatives. Cold comfort for those looking out on a denuded Leith Walk.
8

alex paterson,

edinburgh 05/11/2008 12:26:47
Before TIE took on the tram contract,i think they ran a circus.
9

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 05/11/2008 12:46:46
Another day, another EEN anti tram story.
10

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 12:48:08
This says a lot about the EN's desperate attempts to create a constant drip of completely overblown anti-tram stories. This is a "top story"? The contractor's mistake was rectified, so how is this newsworthy?
11

John south of Soutra,

05/11/2008 12:54:21
#14 - the contractor's mistake was rectified, who by not by the contractor, it was only rectified by the shopkeeper himself
12

Leith Walk Trader,

05/11/2008 12:54:26
#14

I beg to differ! As of right now the lines have NOT been removed.
13

Louis Catorze,

05/11/2008 12:59:22
#14...this is newsworty because nothing else has happened in Edinburgh since this time yesterday.

If you want some 'proper' news I suggest you move to London where the papers are filled with real news...muggings...more teenage stabbing deaths...will we or won't we spend billions on Crossrail....rape...more teenage stabbings....you get the picture.

Would you not rather have fluffy stories about lines/no lines on the road?

Sounds like a nice place to live if that's all that get you worked up over....
14

Ecto,

05/11/2008 13:00:20
Good on ya Gordon, it is going to take direct action not words to keep this moronic cooncil, TIE and their useless contractors in line. They are ruining the city with their anti-car measures and has anyone else noticed how they keep permanently closing streets without reason, St Bernards in Stockbridge now closed so you cant come up from the botanics that way anymore. They keep funnelling more and more cars in to less roads how pray-tell is that the answer? Madness the whole lot of them are bonkers
15

Leith Walk Trader,

05/11/2008 13:01:21
#14

rec·ti·fy

Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English rectifien, from Anglo-French rectifier, from Medieval Latin rectificare, from Latin rectus right — more at right
Date: 14th century
1 : to set right : remedy
2 : to correct by removing errors

tie/Carillion have not removed the lines which have been in place since Saturday. Customers have therefore been unable to park in the vicinity of these businesses for several days resulting in loss of income for the affected traders.

In these difficult economic times thoughtless (in)action by these organizations IS newsworthy.
16

Local Lass,

South Queensferry 05/11/2008 13:05:41
#17 Your right. Compared to London, Edinburgh is a nice place to live. So you can keep your crime to yourself and we'll keep oor fluffy stories.....
17

johnandyoko,

05/11/2008 13:22:40
Reading between the lines I get the impression Gordon Burgess was having a black day yesterday,at least he didn't let TIE paint him into a corner.
18

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 13:26:04
Wonder if anybody got a ticket?
19

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 13:29:51
TOP STORIES? - ffs!! And what a fortuitous happenchance a snapper from the Evening Chip-Wrapper just occasioned to be passing whilst this daubing was occurring. I've flung a fair bit of ordure at the Grand TramCar Fiasco myself, but 'trivia' hardly begins to describe this story.
Leith Walk Trader - The Council are the roads authority, not TIE - they make Orders, control markings on the road network and unleash their Meanies on the public, not Wy-LIE Gallagher and his out of control quango.
20

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 05/11/2008 13:35:26
Listen folkes - I have been involved in road building schemes, and EVERY job I have been on has had both minor and major hickups like this. You can NEVER allow for these when designing a big scheme like this on paper.
I am amazed that there have been so few incidents like this, well done TIE !
All those who like to critisise have obviously never worked on a civil engineering project in their life !
21

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 13:52:27


Well, 'This is Edinburgh'! afterall, the 'cuckoo's nest' comes to mind, but it is fun, so I agree with #17 #20.

And if the "tram" stories fail to amaze you, you always get Charles Linskaill and his DYW's IVF stories to keep you going, less the yellow paint of course. :)

22

PaulB,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 13:54:55
More ridiculous rubbish - the trams are coming! And to listen to some people, on here you would think Leith Walk was some gorgeous continental boulevard - it's a dump full of jakeys and drunks, vomit covered pavements and litter-strewn gutters - and always has been - a few trees less won't make the slightest difference.
23

Angus R,

05/11/2008 13:58:38
#26 so basically you are saying you are incopetent at your work and mistakes are always made? Any chance you tell me your company name so i can avoid at all costs.
24

Leith Walk Trader,

05/11/2008 13:59:00
#25 I agree that CEC are the Roads Authority, however tie have an abiding TTRO in force which allows them to make Traffic Management alterations over the entire length of the tram line, for the entire duration of the project - however - these markings were made by one of tie's contractors with no reference (or authority) from them.

#26 This is ineptitude, pure and simple and to add insult to injury, no action has yet been taken to rectify the error. Yes, mistakes happen, but the basic principles of customer service dictate that, having acknowledged the error, IMMEDIATE action is taken to resolve it. Civil engineering projects are not exempt from good customer service.
25

Euan,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 14:26:18
#1 has hit the nail on the head.

It really isn't too late to scrap this farcical project.

I have been saying this from the start. It was so obvious that local businesses and local people in general would be hugely inconvenienced by the construction of this white elephant.

TIE's complete lack of organizational skills and complete overall incompetence have left many local folks fighting for their very livelihoods - all so Edinburgh citizens can have a toy tram LINE forced upon them.

Now these local people are having to resort to desperate measures just to keep their businesses alive.

Heads should roll. This project should be cancelled NOW before it really is too late and Edinburgh suffers even further.
26

Look on the Bright side,

05/11/2008 14:27:04
Great news though re the chop down 1 tree, get 2 free
27

Euan,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 14:33:33
#35

Fair enough, except none of the new trees will actually be re-planted on Leith Walk itself..
28

Donny B,

EDINBURGH 05/11/2008 14:36:19
Is there any truth in something I was told yesterday? That there will be no right turns onto or off Leith Walk due to the tram occupying the centre of the road. Can someone please tell me this is not happening , it will be a worse nightmare than anyone is envisaging/
29

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 14:50:44
Apparently, we have all been unkind to TIE. I have it on good authority that that they have, in fact, finally laid some tramlines. It's just that they have laid them in the wrong place, through no fault of their own, at our expense. They are just outside Peebles, apparently.
30

The Judge,

05/11/2008 14:54:25
Road Raga could you find anything positive to say about the tramLINE?

Any news on Phil Wheeler and his departments £10k report or the wrong pipe in Shandwick Place? If only we had a local newspaper that could find out the facts about the tramLINE without printing stories like this one.
31

Jenny MacArthur,

05/11/2008 14:58:09
He should be charged with criminal damage. Time to crack down on the anti-tram nutter brigade.
32

Leith Walk Trader,

05/11/2008 15:00:01
#37 You are correct. As part of laying the double line of tracks up the centre of Leith Walk, there will also be a central island which means that for many of the junctions on the northbound (downhill) side only left turns will be permitted and for the southbound (uphill) side only right turns will be allowed. It will only be possible to cross the tram lines at certain points.

Have a look at the designs:
http://www.leithtraders.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=28&Itemid=13
33

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 15:00:19
Why can't they use a root-digger to relocate the trees and then put them back?
34

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 15:01:54
#41

Surely you mean that TIE or their contractor should be charged with criminal damage for illegally painting the yellow lines in the first place?
35

Leith Walk Trader,

05/11/2008 15:04:32
Let me clarify my last post - left turns from Leith Walk onto the side streets and right turns from the side streets onto Leith Walk.
36

Leith Walk Trader,

05/11/2008 15:07:11
#43 Because removing them with a bull-dozer is much more gratifying.

http://www.leithtraders.com/index.php?view=article&catid=1%3Anews&id=185%3Aanother-one-bites-the-dust&option=com_content&Itemid=28

We have suggested it, but they don't seem interested!
37

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 15:14:56
#46

And, apparently, bus use. Oh, and walking due to narrower pavements. And breathing, due to fewer trees.
38

Euan,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 15:22:39
#48

'And breathing, due to fewer trees.'

Not to mention all buses which have their exhausts exiting on the right rear of the vehicle - directly pumping fumes into the faces of people queuing for a tram in the centre of Leith Walk and Princes St...

Then again, with all the money that is being squandered on this fiasco it wouldn't surprise me to see air-conditioned, climate-controlled tram shelters..

Oh no, what crazy ideas have I just given TIE and Willie Gallagher?!
39

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 15:25:51
#49

And avoiding facts.
40

Dragonlord,

05/11/2008 16:32:43
Quote:Traders in Leith Walk are set for their first break from the tram roadworks in 18 months.

Traders have had an imbargo for years, as TIE never seem to be working when I pass by.
41

Heartfelt,

EDINBURGH 05/11/2008 16:36:21
This wouldn't have been "reported" if it wasn't in Leith Walk. For the last year this rag has appeared to be a leith Walk newssheet. Come on EEN - there's a whole city out there. Broaden your horizons people.

By the way, well done to Mr Burgess. There have been so many exaggerated stories about loss of business due to the trams - at last a trader with facts to back him up and the gumption to do something about it.

Question for legal eagles - would it be legal for the wardens to book someone for stopping on illicit yellow lines? I bet they'd try it.
42

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05/11/2008 16:50:08
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43

Euan,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 17:32:59
#55

You ignorant fool.
44

tumshie heid,

05/11/2008 17:57:05
#55You are a Bampot. You weren't about to do any such thing.
How exactly is anybody supposed to shop there if these incompetent numpties paint illegal yellow lines outside his shop and then don't remove them?
I am delighted that someone else is standing up to these buffoons.
45

keit011,

05/11/2008 18:09:25
the boy from the bed shop will now have a black mark against his name now .the council or government should just tell everyone they aren't able to choose there own transport its getting pretty hard to go from a to b .i think cars enabled us all to make some money work longer and fit in some time with the kids and family and if we cant have cars then it will mean not being able to do all this in the end everyone suffers including goverment cause we wont be paying the extra tax we do by working late
46

Andrew S,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 18:55:14
Edinburgh Trams = Farce. Traders have been disrupted. Traffic has been disrupted and now it appears to be the turn of the poor pedestrians - who've fled the bus and car to walk up Leith Walk. Has anyone tried Walking up Leith Walk of late? You really have to pick what side your going to walk on because your pretty much restricted to that side. It's Edinburghs newest assualt course with new 'works' appearing daily. There are at least 3 sections of Leith Walk I would say are impossible for people in Wheelchairs to pass through because the gap between walls and tramwork fencing is barely big enough for someone to walk through. I leave for work at 4am, by the time I return at 4pm a new hole will have appeared along with new fences and more pedestrian diversions.

It's nothing but a shambles and something should be done. Why is it all being done at once? Why at 4am in the morning are workers having to shift rubbish in wheelbarrows to gaps in the fence for collection. This whole thing is a disaster and a bigger farce than that Dome!
47

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 05/11/2008 18:56:58
#59, the majority of councillors voted in are for pro-tram parties. That is a fact.
Salmond may have promised this and that, but at the end of the day it is for the deomcratically elected LOCAL Council to decide what happens.
Clearly he appreciated that as well and did a U turn.
The trams are not a mess. 99% of it is on time and getting built.
There are a few minor problems, big deal.
48

Dragonlord,

05/11/2008 19:07:14
59#
The SNP are not to blame. Try blaming those clowns who voted in the pro tram Lib dems and Labour clowns.The SNP would have scrapped the trams had they won a majority. However they were out voted.
49

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 05/11/2008 19:50:08
#62 that's called democracy

[Basically what you are saying that a majority of the population voted for trams]
50

controls,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 21:49:00
who is going to compensate the traders?????????????
51

controls,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 21:58:16
sack who ever is responsible for ordering the double yellow lines to be put down.
52

BobW,

Embra 05/11/2008 22:08:34
Of course the SNP are to blame. Sorry to insult the "God" Salmond. They hold the purse strings. I was one of the mugs who believed their lies about getting rid of the trams. At that stage it would have been possible. I wouldn't trust the slippery Salmon ever again.
53

Dr DoGood,

edinburgh 05/11/2008 22:15:49
54 have you ever seen a warden in Leith Walk
as for the rest of this story has nobody even realised that as Leith Walk is a designated Greenway the lines should have been RED
54

Dragonlord,

05/11/2008 22:16:56
63# No it's dumb people voteing in a traditional way, rather than on policies. Too many always vote for a particular party, rather than loking at the c*ck ups they have made, and change things for the better.
So the majority did not necessarily vote pro tram they simple did not vote with any great thought.

66# See above for the reason the SNP could not scrap the trams. They have however refused to fund it more than the origional ammount( something they could do nothing about.
55

Julian.,

edinburgh 06/11/2008 00:28:58
#41 Skip,

So now it's a crime for a contractor to paint the wrong road markings. I hate to think what would happen to them if they did something like digging a hole in the wrong place...public execution maybe?

By the way, as I've recommended numerous times before, do not respond to Jenny Macarthur's comments...she just loves to throw in controversial remarks and sit back and watch the response. Ignore her please.
56

Julian.,

edinburgh 06/11/2008 00:39:49
Road Raga,

Sorry, but although I am pro-tram I must pick you up on a couple of points:-

At the end of the day the trams are passed by act of parliament who hold the purse strings for the project. The council really doesn't have much power, except to start the ball rolling.

And the people did not vote for trams, they just voted for parties who happened to have trams in their manifestos. Whether it should have been put to referendum and whether it would have passed is something that has now been left to drunken pub debates.
57

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 06/11/2008 01:41:01
these.trams.have.got.disneyland.beat
58

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 06/11/2008 01:48:17
these.trams.have.got.disneyland.beat
59

tumshie heid,

06/11/2008 08:52:28
Tony, please explain your logic which says that the people who voted SNP and therefore against trams are to blame for them.Are you saying that the people who voted for pro tram parties are not responsible for the introduction of trams?
Or could it be that you love to try and stir up distrust towards the SNP on the eve of (hopefully) another Labour kicking in Glenrothes?
I have a full fish supper waiting to coup over you in the street. Call the police....
60

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 06/11/2008 09:19:52
See Jenny has used her trademark "anti tram nutter brigade" slogan. On a fee for every time uses the phrase?

Taking a 3 year course in traffic management, a logistics degree and managing a multi million transport company as I do, I tend to believe her so called nutters have it right!
61

GraemeH,

Edinburgh 06/11/2008 10:07:59
#70 Julian. The current tram proposal was not passed by an act of Parliament. It voted on the separate tram line bills for lines 1, 2, and 3 together with their related business plans. What TIE are foisting on us now is a hybrid of lines 1 and 2 with a business plan that has not been subject to any Parliamentary scrutiny.
62

THE BPRENTICE,

06/11/2008 11:38:19
Its a great bed shop - so more power to the yguy.

#26 Road Radge says "well done TIE !" ... WTF!! I've heard from about the fairly recent meeting with tie where there was about 500 people there ... very angry people. Compensation received so far hardly covers the repairs of premises after the filthy state shops are left under, thx to TIE.

Tie are supposed to be bound by their Code of Construction Practice e.g. they are only suppose to work on a 200 yard stretch at a time but have ripped into the whole length at once. Of course Road Radge will say its not practical to operate that way ... but why have it in THEIR Code of Construction Practice.

So the likes of this yellow line blunder is unacceptable - NOT VERY WELL DONE TIE.

Long established shops like Walkers Wodstock have folded thanks to the trams ... I hope its worth it?!
63

Si-co onalist,

on the couch 07/11/2008 16:32:27
How could the spokesman for TIE state that the error had been rectified when it patently hadn't? Not very good PR is it.

 

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