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Published Date: 06 May 2009
EDINBURGH'S banks, the Scottish Parliament, the Festival and Murrayfield are all potential terrorist targets, the UK's Security Minister has warned.
While Lord West has urged people not to panic, he said the public should remain vigilant, adding if they saw a car with smoking canisters, they should "tell someone".

The former naval chief, brought into Gordon Brown's government two years ago, said that as the financial centre of Scotland, Edinburgh remained "vulnerable" and said it would be "foolhardy" to think otherwise.

He was in Edinburgh to launch the latest phase of the UK's anti-terrorism strategy, and told an audience of senior police officers, security planners and community representatives that attacks in Exeter, Bristol, Birmingham and Glasgow had shown London was not the only target.

In an interview with the Evening News, he spelled out the terrorist threat to the Capital.

He said: "The important thing to remember is everywhere can be threatened.

"If you think of Edinburgh, although RBS have done a fairly good job of trying to destroy themselves, we know from the World Trade Centre attack, al-Qaeda and the terrorist groups they inspire hate successful capitalism and you have some really big banks here.

"This is the financial centre of Scotland and in many ways is a world centre. That has to make it vulnerable.

"I've got no specific intelligence telling me that, but it would be very foolhardy to think it wasn't."

He said there was a balance to be struck between persuading people to take the risk seriously and not inducing panic.

"What I don't want is the British public to be going round thinking 'Oh my God, we're going to die' because that's not true. There are a lot of people doing really good work looking after them."

He accepted the Festival and the Tattoo could be vulnerable too.

"You might think 'Why would they want to do that? What is there in this?'. What's in it is they get huge publicity. They don't care a jot about killing people because of their warped view of Islam. It's just the sort of thing they want."

Lord West recalled the terror attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore in March. "What that means is all bets are off even on sports teams, so somewhere like Murrayfield is under threat – you know, large crowds."

But he said people should not be deterred from going to the Festival, the Tattoo, the parliament or Murrayfield – though he urged them to be alert.

"My message would be to get on and enjoy it; come to them, have fun, enjoy them – because that's cocking a snook at the terrorists, but always be vigilant."

And he recalled how the botched plot to bomb London's Tiger Tiger nightclub had been discovered when a member of staff saw vapour streaming from a car packed with gas canisters.

"If you see a car with canisters in the back that are smoking, tell someone. Be vigilant, but don't let it spoil your fun."

FOUR-PRONGED APPROACH
THE UK government's counter-terrorism strategy has four key elements:

• Pursue: to stop terrorist attacks

• Prevent: to stop people becoming terrorists or supporting violent extremism

• Protect: to strengthen protection against terrorist attack

• Prepare: where an attack cannot be stopped, to mitigate its impact

By 2011, the Government will spend £3.5 billion a year on counter-terrorism and security measures.

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  • Last Updated: 06 May 2009 10:22 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Terrorism in the UK
 
1

chico,

edinburgh 06/05/2009 11:54:04
How much is he getting paid for stating the obvious?
2

simonp,

06/05/2009 12:03:52
Is this not the bloke that bet that Labour would lose the next election, so his judgement can not be completely wrong.
3

Bigwull,

edinburgh 06/05/2009 12:09:06
2 Should be shot at dawn
4

Duncan in Edinburgh,

06/05/2009 12:14:24
Citizen, remember we are always at war.
5

Sarcasm,

06/05/2009 12:14:42
Roll up, roll up.
Get your national ID cards here, only £60 a go.
Coming to a city near you soon and a cure for all evil.
6

Finbarr Saunders,

06/05/2009 12:15:25
Lord West has to justify his £3.5billion annual counter-terrorism budget by scaring the God-fearing folk of Edinburgh every now and again.
7

Daudi Baldrs,

Norway 06/05/2009 12:15:49
Edinburgh looks not unlike Baghdad after the Americans attacked it in 2003.
8

totally indecent,

06/05/2009 12:20:11
Who should I tell if I see a car with smoking cannisters? My mum?
9

Douglas,

Bathgate 06/05/2009 12:24:37
You should, but only after checking that the car hasn't been converted to sell doner kebabs (check for street vendor's permit, top of windscreen passenger side).
10

simonp,

06/05/2009 12:27:28
#3 what have I done?
11

Randan,

06/05/2009 12:29:42
I'm sure the Terrorists will fail to destroy the city as much as Tram 'Development' has.
12

I love to eat Sellotape,

06/05/2009 12:31:37
"What I don't want is the British public to be going round thinking 'Oh my God, we're going to die' because that's not true."

It isn't? We're going to live forever?

Hallelujah!
13

Unimpressed one,

06/05/2009 12:42:16
All a terrorist need do to create mass panic is to shout, "Swine flu, Allahu Akbar" to result in a mass shutdown of the area and the arrival of a SWAT team headed by Nicola Sturgeon.
14

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06/05/2009 12:42:49
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06/05/2009 12:48:12
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KV,

06/05/2009 12:55:55
Its always good to know that the government and other security experts keep up with fictional literature published 15 years ago.

I believe Quintin Jardine has already covered all of these potential targets in a number of his books.
17

Bill MacD,

06/05/2009 12:57:56
Get a grip! The actual risk of any one of us being affected directly by terrorism is incredibly tiny, compared to real risks we take every day, like crossing roads for example. This irresponsible scaremongering by politicians is almost always part of an agenda to impose more intrusive controls on us, removing our civil liberties. Don't fall for it folks. The real terrorists are the power-hungry political clique, abetted by media outlets who have a vested interest in scary stories.
18

My opinions count for more than yours,

which are, in the main, worthless 06/05/2009 13:02:49
Buildings are more likely to burn down because of arson than terrorism. So we should be more concerned about arsonists, really.
19

Columba doing the Rumba,

06/05/2009 13:10:53
Is this a warning or a threat, e.g. "Accept draconian 'anti-terror' measures, or we'll get some Muslims to walk round with rucksacks which we've pretended to them are dummy devices as they're on a secret test run of security, but don't tell anyone just in case ...".

Sounds like it to me.

I guess it will be just like the fake plot to blow up Jenners; frame up some foreign students because everyone's induced hatred of all Arabs means we can't go wrong.

This has false flag all over it.
20

Daudi Baldrs,

Norway 06/05/2009 13:11:18
Decent!
21

I love to eat Sellotape,

06/05/2009 13:17:45
You'll all be sweating out the other side of your pits when they go after the Tollcross Co-Op.
22

Ron D,

Enybru 06/05/2009 13:18:51
When I told one of my friends several years ago, "they'll be blowing themselves up on buses here soon enough", he also replied "it'll never happen".
23

JT,

06/05/2009 13:20:39
This warning comes out this time every year. Its not as if we havent lived with the threat of terrorism before. My mum used to work in M&S on princes st in the 70's when there was a little group of thugs called the IRA! on more than one occasion they had to evacuate the store as someone had put an incendary device at the back where the bins were. This is nothing new. If there is a such a threat, why dont special branch get off their backsides and find out where they are and boot them out the country before they blow someone up.
24

The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

06/05/2009 13:30:32
Oh no!
Not terror! I hate terror. Is there any way we can make it go away?
Would it perhaps help if I carried a card with my picture on it? I’d be willing to pay upwards of £60 for it. If it would make terror go away.
25

totally indecent,

06/05/2009 13:36:21
Mario!
26

imran tiger,

06/05/2009 13:38:17
Last month they arrested 12 innocent students and called them alqaida terrorist and later released them.This is there intellegence agency .NUMPTIES
27

I love to eat Sellotape,

06/05/2009 13:38:28
TOP WAYS TO MAKE TERROR GO AWAY

1. Hold up large banners that say "MAKE TERROR HISTORY". Give them to charity when you are finished.
2. Invite all the terrorists to a cocktail party and get them really drunk, to the point where you can put your arm around them and become their mate.
3. Feed terror some beef jerky, as a distraction.
4. Allow Celine Dion to perform at a Al-Quaeda concert. The audience will be touched by her warmth and sincerity.
5. What about Dionne Warwick? Is she still alive?
6. Move to Fife.
7. Bring back Maragaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. They wouldn't stand for any of this nonsense. A push of the red button and - KABOOM!
8. Or is it KA-BOOM? I don't know.
9. There is no number nine.
10. Self-assembly packs from Ikea are another good distraction. It would be funny to hear terrorists attempt to pronounce the name of some of the products, too.
28

Eugene Fraxby,

06/05/2009 13:39:54
Lord West: "I have no specific intelligence."
29

Old Cartha Boy,

06/05/2009 13:41:08
Why would the terrorists target Edinburgh? There is nothing left to destroy given the destruction of the city by TIE and the Council!
30

Salvatori,

06/05/2009 13:43:31
28 - You forgot along with the banners, large anti-terror foam hands with pointing fingers. Nothing drives terrorists to give up their struggle more than a large foam hand.
31

Columba doing the Rumba,

06/05/2009 13:49:03
Foam hands? Some of our politicians already have foamy hands. (Oh you mean another kind of foam hands.)
32

I love to eat Sellotape,

06/05/2009 13:50:50
Please, children. I was making some serious comments about tackling the terrorism menace. The last thing we need is your childish frivolity.
33

Columba doing the Rumba,

06/05/2009 13:58:33
In that case, would you prefer adult frivolity?
34

I love to eat Sellotape,

06/05/2009 13:59:37
I would prefer bovine frivolity.
35

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06/05/2009 14:02:24
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 06/05/2009 15:07:48
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37

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 06/05/2009 15:33:02

What does a "car with smoking gangsters" look like?

38

Bigwull,

edinburgh 06/05/2009 15:35:28
10 independant thoughts, tut tut a capital offence
39

James2122,

06/05/2009 15:40:35
"If you see a car with canisters in the back that are smoking, tell someone. Be vigilant, but don't let it spoil your fun."

HaHa yes if I go out next Christmas for a staff party and meal and we all get very merry... And then before dessert we are doing the conga round a large restuarant...the Managing Director's got his secretary's knickers on his head again. And I look out the window and see a car with canisters in the back that are smoking, then if the conga does pass a waiter I will inform him but if not I won't let it spoil my fun, I can always tell someone after the conga.
40

HolyRude,

06/05/2009 15:51:10
Oh help where I find the canisters on a car. I know about the accelerator, brake, clutch (ABC) the exhaust pipe, wheels, bumpers & hubcaps but I’ve no clue about the canisters. I’ll report any smoking exhaust pipes I see to the M.O.D. (or should that be the M.O.T.)
If all the terrorists want is publicity well how about the media give them the big foam finger. Problem solved!
Then I wont have to go to the Car Maintenance class for Dummies!
41

Voice of reason,

EDINBURGH 06/05/2009 16:19:08
Labour playing the scare card again . The Tories are soft on terror , you can only trust us ........what a disgusting mob of criminals who betrayed the Gurkhas .
42

Silence of the Yams,

06/05/2009 16:20:32
I doubt the bombers will be KKK grand wizards or US shock jocks. Islamist nuts only!
43

jdships,

Edinburgh 06/05/2009 16:50:03
""If you see a car with canisters in the back that are smoking, tell someone. Be vigilant, but don't let it spoil your fun."

His IQ is ?
Reminds me of the old joke question for ships engineers
Q "What steps would you take if the boiler burst
A " Engineroom steps two at a time "
44

calum,

06/05/2009 17:04:06
Iltes - the most unfunny contributor to these forums ... even his humour is unoriginal and stolen.
45

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 06/05/2009 17:34:13
Scotland would be less off a target if the world saw it as an Independent Nation, rather than the Northern Region of England, as spouted by Maggie Brown.
46

Silence of the Yams,

06/05/2009 17:51:41
46. Hundreds of thousands of innocents, huh! Why don't you join the Taleban now pal, bomb a few girls schools, behead a few locals in between suicide killings, drug dealing, and AED manufacture?
47

madrab,

Edinburgh 06/05/2009 19:02:45
Is he Batman's dad?
48

is it me?,

Edinburgh 06/05/2009 20:36:42
#46 & 47

It beats me how anyone called Tam o'Shanter can get worked up about a desert shIthole called Afghanistan.

The place has always been trouble. If you don't believe me read some Rudyard Kipling.

Get out and let them get on with it. I've been there. I know.
49

HolyRude,

06/05/2009 22:01:40
#51

I agree get out and let them get on with it.
If Muslims are suffering in a country like Iraq under an evil dictator or in Afghanistan let Al-Qaeda and all the British Muslim terrorists go to their aid. We could perhaps send them their giros and arrange a bit of a welcome home demo for them if they return. Hopefully they don't return and they meet four nice Afghani brides and marry all four and live happily every after in Afghanistan or some other Muslim country where they will no doubt be treated a lot better than they are here. It seems they think we are pretty horrible and racists too boot!
Let's get our own country sorted out before getting too concerned about what's going elsewhere. Keep the idiots out of the media. Ignore them and they might go away.
50

tumshie heid,

06/05/2009 22:41:15
#51 Perhaps he is getting worked up because the threat of terrorism (perceived or real) that we have here now is a direct result of our countries actions in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Does Rudyard Kipling write exceedingly good books by the way..?
51

Against crooked Councilors,

06/05/2009 22:44:33
Labour Goverment scaremongering just to hike prices.
Look what happened to the passport, they hiked the price using scaremongering tactics
52

tumshie heid,

07/05/2009 08:14:04
#54 Agreed. This government would like nothing more than for the population to be living in fear so that they can introduce more of their controlling legislation. Phone records, cameras, i.d cards, preventing legitimate protests etc.
53

HolyRude,

07/05/2009 08:40:45
53tumshie heid,06/05/2009 22:41:15
#51 Perhaps he is getting worked up because the threat of terrorism (perceived or real) that we have here now is a direct result of our countries actions in Iraq and Afghanistan?

I don't totally believe it is. I think even if we weren't in Iraq and Afghanistan they would find some other reason to attack us. They are nutters! Who in their right mind would blow themselves up just to try to get their point of view across to the government.
54

Mallory,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 11:01:43
I'd worry more about Waverly Station, Holyrood remember the IRA mortar attack on Downing Street) and the Court of Session at Parliament Square. Then there is the RBS complex at Gogarburn.

No doubt our polis are watching the CCTV and traffic wardens are looking for smoke filling parked cars. Of course if we all carry ID cards the danger will pass won't it Jacqui?


 

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