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Published Date: 08 December 2008
LEADING Premiership clubs have discussed a possible breakaway from the Scottish Rugby Union, it emerged today.
Confirmation that the subject had been raised at a recent meeting of the influential Premiership Division One Forum came from Iain Russell, director of rugby at Currie.

He said: "Someone mentioned a breakaway. The whole thing would have to be thou
ght through, however, and there has not been a debate.

"That would be interesting because all clubs are struggling."

Another Capital source acknowledged awareness of the plan, saying: "I hear there is a sponsor in the background if a breakaway happened."

The driving force behind any re-shaping of the club structure appears to be current Premiership leaders, Ayr, whose president, Billy McHarg was today reported as saying: "We need to shake things up. There is a common recognition that we should take responsibility for our own affairs."

Autonomy would mean leading clubs being able to negotiate their own broadcasting deals and other sources of revenue. At present, league winners receive no prize money.

McHarg said: "We should spell out we do not want conflict with the SRU. The opposite is true. What we are looking at is taking charge of our own affairs and having control of our own destiny.

"I would have thought in the present climate the SRU would actually support this scheme because it would lighten their load and leave it up to the clubs to search for sponsors, forge closer links with their communities and local authorities and sort out their affairs, on and off the pitch.

"The response of the other Premiership clubs has been very positive. Yes, a lot of work still needs to be done across the board but we are pretty united in accepting that change is for the good."

Representatives from the SRU were unavailable for comment.



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  • Last Updated: 08 December 2008 10:52 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: SRU
 
1

Armageddon,

Fishing Boat...North Minch 08/12/2008 12:26:11
Best News ever

The SRU stinks worse than the hold on my boat...the have murdered Scottish Club Rugby.

BTW

Please check out the SRU website. The photo gallary of committee members is briliiant....a row of pokers, and living proff that the trough is never empty while McKie and co are in charge

....shame on you all...you Santa belly look a likes
2

Southsider,

Glasgow 08/12/2008 12:32:20
Well, well, arrant nonsense from the select few. "Leading clubs," do we define that as; those with most money, most imported players (from other clubs as well as abroad,) or those who happen to be in Premier 1 at the moment? Will this breakaway be for the top eight clubs as some of them have stated they want? Will it be for those who reside in Premier 1 just now or those who are left at the end of the season...is it goodbye Hawick, Hawks, Stirling County, Edin Accies or West?

The system of governance is definitely in need of review since it is clearly unrepresentative of the union of clubs - the SRU. Premier 1 has a rep. Premier 2 has a rep, Premier 3 has one but underneath that clubs have less representation. Whoever thought that league status should equate to how clubs would be represented should think again - a change from the old structure threw the baby out with the bath water.

I wonder which representatives from the SRU were unavailable for comment? I hope it meant our elected representatives and not those who work for us?

Dangerous times indeed - surely the closer we stand together the stronger we will be.

I wonder if other 'leading clubs' around the country agree: Howe of Fife, Dalziel, Haddington, Gala, Falkirk, Highland, Oban, Cartha, Lasswade, Biggar, Perthshire, Cumnock, Helensburgh, Whitecraigs, Caithness, Strathendrick, Garioch, to name but a few?
3

Mr Jaffa,

Edinburgh 08/12/2008 12:46:17
Interesting news.... a few questions for a journalist to ask these 'leading' clubs.

Does this breakaway mean that they will no longer expect to receive any monies from the SRU (is rugby in Scotland the only place that the central governing body pays its members?? In all I am aware of the clubs pay the central body?)

What do the leading clubs see happening to the Scotland team? Will this be run by the SRU still? Or do the leading clubs propose that there new organisation will run the national team? What about Murrayfield stadium? Who will run that? Pro teams? presumably the leading clubs want to own them so they can get the sponsorship, split it between 8,10 or 12 of them and then get right royally stuffed every week in Europe.

I think this may be the best news Scottish Rugby has had in a long time. A lot of the 'leading' clubs have been so far up their own backsides since professionalism arrived that they have directly contributed to a demise in Scottish rugby.

The SCOTLAND team is the pinnacle of Scottish rugby as proven by the number of fans of the team who bother attending games

The PRO teams are the peak of non international rugby in Scotland (as proven by the attendance at games. Yes I know they are lower than they should be but they have had to battle against playing at the wrong grounds and battling against negativity from club committees (not club supporters but club committees!) and the press.

Club rugby is the pinnacle of 'AMATEUR' rugby in this country. It always has been and it always should be. To my mind clubs should be limited in the number of professionals they are allowed to pay (or even the number of overseas players?) to make sure there will always be a concentration on developing good Scottish talent.

I used to attend club rugby regularly. I dont anymore purely because of the attitude of 'leading' club committee members and the Scottish press.
4

John south of Soutra,

08/12/2008 13:16:32
2 & 3 are right in their comments, who are the so-called leading clubs, quite a few of them don't eve n have a youth setup, some don't even have a ground !!!
Why not let them go semi-professional if they wish and allow the clubs that are amateur to remain.
There would be no hand outs from the SRU and they would have to stand on their own 2 feet, I'd also be interested in who the sponsors are given the current financial climate, the worst thing that happened recently was the relaxation of the 2 foreigners rule as this opened the floodgates and in some cases in difficult to hear a scottish accent when they play
5

AlastairS,

08/12/2008 13:23:07
Unbelievable!! WE are racing into the worst recession in over 50 years and the "leading" clubs are thinking of going it alone. I would suggest that they are in "cloud cuckoo land" but I think that would be insulting cloud cuckoo land.
The business of the SRU and EVERYBODY associated with rugby in Scotland is to ensure our survival over the next 2 years. I am not exaggerating. The SRU are in debt to banks which are about to become far less Scottish focussed and far more concerned about their own finances and therefore far more likely to pull the plug What needs to happen is for the in-fighting to stop and everyone to pull together or else I fear the consequences.
6

Fast Phil,

St Neots 08/12/2008 13:56:20
I dispair, what a lot of nonesense from the 'leading clubs'. #4 is right.

7

Macd123,

08/12/2008 17:44:37
Sounds reasonable to me. Good to see them finally taking the bull by the horns.

Some of you guys need to stop slagging off the clubs, who are mostly staffed by well meaning volunteers.

It shows how little you know when you suggest clubs get hand outs from the union. That has not happened for a while.

8

Colt,

08/12/2008 18:16:36
This move to looking for a better way ahead is inevitable given the inexorable death of the game under the SRU.

The SRU is a plc, its teams are in effect businesses and therefore need to produce a product that someone wants to buy. It is typical SRU posturing to suggest that club members and committee men are the reason for the complete failure of the pro team project. The SRU decided it wanted new customers and it has failed to achieve the required numbers, being bailed out by TV monies for internationals.

On the field we become less and les competitive, we now rank outside the Top 8 in the world and our 7s team has in the last 2 weeks lost to the likes of the USA and Zimbabwe (3 times). The national stadium is half full for the visit of the World Champions and we can't even fill Pttodrie for a full international.

No wonder the cubs are looking for something more. Check the SRU's accounts for how much the clubs receive from SRU - you will find it is less than 0.01% of SRU's turnover.

#3 sees the pro teams as wonderful examples of how rugby should go forward. That mindset of findng "success" in the unmitigated disaster the pro teams have been is not even worthy of comment.
What have the pro teams ever won? How commercially successful have they been?

The SRU no longer deserves the support of the clubs and hopefully this latest move means some of the clubs have at last woken up to the peril of their situation.
9

Big Smoke,

08/12/2008 18:31:50
Good article on thye SRU website about this, more rubbish from ENN
10

AlastairS,

08/12/2008 18:59:52
*~ One question. How do you see them surviving in the present economic climate?
11

J.A.,

Gala 08/12/2008 19:09:26
This nonsense by a few medium sized clubs with outsized egos has got us into this mess. 4 pro teams was the way we should have gone but we managed to spend ten years quibbling over this.

There are many great clubs out there who would be left out in the cold if this proposal went ahead. Selkirk, this seasons shining example, were not a so called top club a couple of seasons ago. This proposal would prevent another club doing what they have done. Intersetingly, Currie, a club who worked their way up through our league system, is planning its demise.

If some of these clubs are struggling to make ends meet they are clearly living beyond their means and consider cutting their wage bill.
Let’s be realistic here, we are looking at clubs who can barely get crowds of over 300 but have the arrogance to say the SRU are holding them back. I am no fan of the SRU, but when it comes down to this issue, I would back the SRU all the way.

 

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