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Published Date: 09 December 2008
DISSATISFACTION at the way financial benefits could be filtered through to clubs from Scottish Rugby bosses lies behind moves towards a possible breakaway by teams in the Premiership.
According to the man who lifted the lid on the discontent, Ayr president Billy McHarg, the seeds of revolt were sown during the recent Autumn Test series.

McHarg outlined concerns over clubs having to bring forward kick-off times so as to avoid cl
ashing with a Scotland international match being played over 100 miles away in Aberdeen.

He also challenged the SRU ticketing policy for Murrayfield matches. If they were able to gain more autonomy now, the clubs would organise and promote two divisions of 12 teams.

Each club would have to meet certain criteria along the lines of having adequate floodlighting and a well-run youth section etc.

The breakaway group would also be responsible for generating income streams from broadcasting rights and sponsorship.

"Our members are confirming tales of people asking to buy ten tickets for an Autumn Test and being told they were only allowed six – regardless of the fact that the stadium was never going to be full," said McHarg.

His message is that this was an example of cash, which could have been filtered down to clubs, being turned away.

"As for ordering Ayr to play at Melrose with a 12.15pm kick off on the day Scotland played Canada in Aberdeen, the SRU were only concerned about the effect on the international. They need to show the same concern, at least, for clubs."

Simmering under the surface, too, is the matter of recognition for clubs who produce internationalists.

McHarg added: "The likes of Ben Cairns, Nick De Luca and Euan Murray have all come into the current Scotland team through the Premiership but I don't hear too much credit being given to these parties.

"There isn't any prize money in the national competitions and it must have been particularly frustrating for Currie to win the league and receive nothing whereas Melrose picked up £20,000 for doing the same a few years before them," said McHarg.

When the suggestion of a breakaway was put to the SRU, a spokesman said it preferred to respond by means of a general statement rather than by answering questions on specific issues.

The SRU statement read: "Scottish Rugby is committed to ensuring that rugby thrives through well-run clubs growing the game in their communities and offering playing opportunities in well-structured club competitions at all levels of the game and we will continue to work closely with all our member clubs in this regard."

McHarg insists that the Premier One Forum group does want to "work with Scottish Rugby".

And he said that he believed clubs entering European competition as a means of really kick-starting outside investment would be a "step too far".

McHarg said: "Entering European competitions would be a reality check. We need to get the grass roots of the game sorted first before turning any attention to that aspect.

"I would hope the SRU, with whom we have still to meet, would welcome our proposals with a positive reaction. They should be grateful for clubs going out to seek sponsorship and, at Ayr, we've found it possible to bring these in with hard work," said McHarg.

A model for the ambitious clubs would be football's SPL.

"If the SPL can operate successfully so can rugby clubs."

Inevitably, any plan to improve a second tier from which players can go back and forth to the SRU-run professional teams would require central financing and McHarg said a chance was lost when the Borders team folded.

"There was a case for re-distributing £1 million of the money saved through ten clubs at £100,000 each to help create the second tier.

"That would have allowed each to appoint a chief executive with responsibility for driving the club game forward."

Such schemes have, of course, been floated before but this time could be different, according to McHarg.

"Premier Division One clubs, as a group, are more positive than ever before," he said.



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  • Last Updated: 09 December 2008 10:14 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: SRU
 
1

Blind Pew,

09/12/2008 12:44:03
This is surely a joke? Typical senior clubs - me, me, me philosophy, they have being trying it at AGMs for years. They don't care about Scottish Rugby as a whole; they only care about themselves as has been so ably demonstrated over the years. Never mind internationals coming from them, how many good players are lured from junior clubs, never to be seen again and no recognition or thanks given? Some even give up playing soon after due to their treatment at 'big' clubs and I talk from experience! They have had no regard for junior rugby at all, ever and its these clubs who drive the game.

If they had taken forward pro rugby, it would be a mess with them all fighting over the pot! They need to realise that society since the mid 80s is behind much of the demise of rugby, not just the SRU problems.

Why should the top 10 clubs be splitting up £100k of OUR money as suggested! This funding is now targeted at developing the game, rather than being p*ssed away on appointing 10 Chief Execs. Why are these clubs constantly looking for hand outs, but then claiming that with autonomy they can run themselves!!!

Good or bad, we are at least heading in the right direction at present and the last thing we need is greedy senior clubs thinking that they can do things better. We don't want a Guinness Premiership full of foreigners in Scotland, but that seems to be the way the clubs would like to go!!

Get your own houses in order before you start telling the other 90% of Scottish Rugby what is best for the game, when its the last thing on your minds!!!
2

Southsider,

Glasgow 09/12/2008 13:34:35
We seem to be mixing up a lot of ideas here. Arrangements for international Saturdays, although the clubs voted for them, are non-sensical, however that is what the and the SRU Board, Council and their employees came up with after the last AGM. This has little to do with certain sections of Premier 1 looking for extra finance from the Union of Clubs (all clubs.)

I am a bit concerned about the level of indirect racism that seems to be percolating through as regards players in our game as if somehow their presence is responsible for the current situation in our game. Surely the issue about players being brought into a club to strengthen it applies to any player not originally from that club?

We need to develop players for all levels at our clubs and this has to be in partnership with representative rugby for the top end.

We have two professional teams - it's all we can afford and for the time being they are based in Edinburgh and Glasgow. Let's go back to calling them Glasgow Caledonian and Edinburgh Borders thereby including all areas of Scottish Rugby. Underneath we could have U-23, U-20, U-19, U-18, U-17, U-16 four-districts competition all with strong links to their communities. Performance Rugby needs to come back into Community Rugby since that experiment clearly hasn't worked. Community volunteers need to be actively involved as players, administrators, coaches, managers and supporters for performance rugby to work.

The top four teams in a ten league Premier 1 could each get to play the professional back up teams the following season in evening matches with a prize for the club with the best overall results?

Ten team leagues are the way forward: one Premier, four National and the rest Regional. Keep the Cup, Shield and Bowl organise it on a Regional basis until the semi-finals then go National with Finals at Murrayfield. Keep international weekends flexible either with no league or cup fixture requirement when Scotland are at home and the option
3

Southsider,

Glasgow 09/12/2008 13:37:24
And to finish..

Ten team leagues are the way forward: one Premier, four National and the rest Regional. Keep the Cup, Shield and Bowl organise it on a Regional basis until the semi-finals then go National with Finals at Murrayfield. Keep international weekends flexible either with no league or cup fixture requirement when Scotland are at home and the option of Thursday to Monday on away matches.

Clubs can then fill spare weekends with local friendlies or multi-team festivals.

The debate about rugby in finer weather is for later and in any case wouldn't mean a change of competition format.

Let's have two up and two down from ten team leagues, that will force Premier 1 teams to work hard whilst offering the opportunity, as there always should be, to clubs below to have their chance in the top flight.

Some Premier clubs spend a fortune on their teams, some on their adminstrators and coaches, that is their choice and prerogative, but they can't spend everybody else's money too.
4

John south of Soutra,

09/12/2008 16:04:04
I'm sorry Southsider but you idea will never catch on as it is far too sensible.
I have spoken to club officials who want even more games, bet they haven't spoken to the players about that.
They all seem to forget that for every home game there will be a cooresponding away game which will probably involve a bus.
Your set up to me is the ideal and I speak as someone who has a senior role in a Premiership club
5

J.A.,

09/12/2008 16:13:38
Southsider, some good ideas there certainly worth discussion.
Firstly, lets get things in good alphabetical order Borders Edinburgh....Calidonia Glasgow.

6

Mike D W,

11/12/2008 16:08:50
#2 & 3

Will forgive you repeating yourself as it is the most sensible suggestion I have seen in a long time.

Top 50 clubs would be national and the rest regional. Only 9 home league games, but #4 makes a super point re corresponding bus to away fixture.
7

booma10+3,

Edinburgh 21/01/2009 14:11:52
Can we please have summer rugby. Its provides minimal enjoyment for players and observers alike.

Yes it would be a huge logistical and organisational effort to get it started...but in the long run it makes sense.

Crowds would increase = increased revenue.
Skills would increase = increased crowds = increased revenue.

This again would over time have the knock on effect of increasing the numbers playing the sport.

It would also allow players to get their gym work done in the winter.

The 8 7s tournements starting with Gala could be part of pre season with 15 aside leagues starting thereafter.

Im aware a few teams might have issues with pitches getting turned into cricket pitches or used for athletics etc in the summer months but change is needed and change never comes easy or without its obstacles.

 

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