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Published Date: 05 January 2009
CSABA LASZLO will fight to fend off vultures currently circling Tynecastle for his players and prove to sceptics that Hearts have not become a selling club.
The manager believes a pre-contract agreement with Inverness midfielder Ian Black counteracts suggestions of a "fire sale" this month that would deprive him of many high-profile names.

Scouts from Rangers, Hull City, Middlesbrough and Fulham were present in the directors' box during Saturday's Edinburgh derby, assessing the likes of Christophe Berra, Andy Driver and Larry Kingston.

But Laszlo stressed today that, although some sales are inevitable, Hearts will also move to reinforce their squad before the transfer window closes.

The club are keen to unload Kingston and will consider offers for Marius Zaliukas, the Lithuanian defender. Incomings may involve Black, who has stated his desire for a quick-fire transfer to Tynecastle this month as opposed to a summer move, while FBK Kaunas defender Mantas Fridrikas is due to arrive at Riccarton to begin training with Hearts.

"We are the first team in the SPL to make a signing," said Laszlo. "We are bringing Ian Black to the club from Inverness in the summer and I think that shows that it is not just sell, sell, sell. Every day I hear that we are going to sell our big players but here we are bringing in the first player to any club in Scotland.

"We are active in the transfer market but we will not rush, we will sit and talk and decide and we keep our eyes open.

"Ian Black's decision to come to Hearts shows that he has ambition. I know that he has said that he eventually wants to move on to play at the highest level possible and that is good. He is a young player, and a Scottish player and he has a good attitude.

"If people want to play for the biggest clubs then they have to be playing well for us. The situation I have at the moment is that the most scouts in the country come to watch Hearts, not another club.

"A lot of people have been to games to watch my players but let me make it clear that there have been no firm offers. They come to look at my young players and I think that is a good motivation or incentive for other young players to want to come to join Hearts, because they know that people will take notice of them.

"If you have good young players in your side then people will want to come to games to watch them play and so I don't make a big deal out of it. Okay, maybe some players will leave, maybe they won't. I would like to bring more players into the club. In the striking position I would like to add players. I think everyone can see that we need to have more power up front. Also, I would like to bring in a player for the left-back position because, when Lee Wallace is out, we do not have anyone who plays only in that position."

The 20-year-old Fridrikas, a left-footed centre-back who can also operate at left-back, is earmarked to fill that void in the squad provided he impresses during training sessions with the Hearts first team.

Meanwhile, Christos Karipidis will miss Wednesday's SPL match against Motherwell due to an ankle injury sustained against Hibs.


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  • Last Updated: 05 January 2009 10:13 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

JamboMowg,

05/01/2009 12:03:38
The sooner we can get rid of Kingston the better as he never bothered his ar*e on Saturday. If anyone offers any more than some training bibs and balls we should bite their hand off. As for Nade & Stewart no one will ever consider taking them of our hands unfortunately.
2

petegeneva,

geneva 05/01/2009 12:04:23
help me here - didn't JJ make his debut for Hibs on Saturday. Does that not count as an SPL signing?
Hearts' Managers - spouting pa5h since 1874.
3

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05/01/2009 12:09:32
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4

Mixu 6 - 2 ,

05/01/2009 12:10:00
Erm ! Aye - RIGHT......................

Bring em on i say......................
after saturdays display from Yams......

Fancy Hibs at san siro by two clear goals win....................................

worst tiny squad since 1970's..........

5

Propaganda boy,

05/01/2009 12:10:38
If there were scouts watching Kingston on Sat then he will be with us for a long time yet, he is just not interested, Chesney done more in 30mins than he had done in 60.

A goal scorer would have had a field day on Sat with the chances Hearts created. Hobos long hoof ball tactics caused a couple of lucky breaks but not much more.

What has happened to Rat boy? Was worried about him coming back to Hibs but he looks well of the pace and a shadow if his previous self.

6

Mixu 6 - 2 ,

05/01/2009 12:12:25
Good job it was not rugby we were playing yams would have won 16-0......................................

Nade got the nack for 20yards over the bar stuff.............................................

hahahahahaha......................................

Hibs did enough on saturday to get a victory...........................................

good solid display away from home.................

GGTTH
7

hibbyspurs,

05/01/2009 12:14:42
#3 - Fair point.

#5 - Obviously you werent at the game, neither did you watch it on TV as in the second half we were dire and I mean dire. I was delighted we got to full time at 0-0.

I'm decidely nervous about the cup game although the fact it's at ER makes me a wee bit happier but if we play like we did in the second 45 on Saturday I can only see one outcome sadly.

Several players need to give themselves a shake not least Riordan who apart from some dangerous balls into the box from set plays was never in the game.
8

the west end general,

05/01/2009 12:14:52
5
aye mixu says a lot about how bad Hibs are then !
9

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

05/01/2009 12:15:50

Has to be the worst hibs midfield Ive ever seen.

Pity I can say the same about our frontline.
10

IanLegend,

Musselburgh 05/01/2009 12:17:58
"Black signing shows he has ambition"

Nothing to do with the higher wages on offer!! haha

Hibs made him a great offer but Hearts pay higher wages...Look where that is getting them.

11

Bigwull,

edinburgh 05/01/2009 12:20:14
Hibs playing hoofball since 1875.
Do Hibs want Michael Stewart Back?
Pressley for Fester Road.
12

JamboJohnny,

05/01/2009 12:21:24
#4

You obviously dont have a clue about the transfer market.

We have signed a pre-contract agreement to sign Black FOR FREE in the summer. If we want to get him in the January transfer window we need to pay compensation to buy out the rest of his contract.

Hobo muppet
13

hibbyspurs,

05/01/2009 12:28:00
#13

Must agree.... A little bit of egg on face for poster #4 there...

Do you think you'll pay money for him this month though? I imagine a fee in the region of £200K may be demanded by Inverness?

S'pose it all depends on who leaves tynie in the coming days if there will be an "investment" to brin Black early.

Surprisng to see a Kaunas player arriving at Riccarton though eh?...... Not!
14

sangriaboy,

malaga 05/01/2009 12:30:45
Aye Im sure that big clubs are clamboring to buy Kingston!

the truth of the matter is that no hearts players will be sold in Jan as there is no money going around.Unless they sell Berra for 1 m they wont get anything.As for Driver,Van zanten had him in his pocket on sat.

Why dont the big team play the boy they signed from Stenhousemuir(temleton) and let the wee team sign the 2 internationalists (Finn and the pole)...Ma pants might never dry!!
15

Iain Bhern,

05/01/2009 12:36:40
#13 and 14, no egg on face for #4 at all. He is quite correct, Black has not actually signed a contract only a pre contract agreement. You can bet his agent will ensure there's a get out clause in any pre contract agreements in case another club comes along with a better wage offer and I'm sure Hearts will be content to wait until summer to get him for free rather than offer ICT any money for him.
16

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

05/01/2009 12:36:59

You must have to go to malaga now to find out the truth.
17

reincarnated,

Edinburgh 05/01/2009 12:40:29
#3 petegeneva

Did JJ make his debut on saturday? Must have passed me by.
18

Jambo-ree,

05/01/2009 12:41:24
#14 - At least it's only one and he is only on trial. If he's good enough then I don't give a rat's where he comes from. Re Black, we can wait - ICT know they will get nothing come the summer so no point in their being greedy just now. My big signing concerns are getting Bruno's contract extended and paying for Balogh.

#3 Think you'll find the Finnish boy was signed outwith the transfer window - has he not been training with Hibs for three weeks? Although why Mixu would choose to player who is so short of match fitness is a mystery. Maybe I'm wrong - don;t take much interest in ER players to be honest.


19

Iain Bhern,

05/01/2009 12:46:55
#19, Nope Finnish boy, as you put it, couldn't actually put pen to paper or be registered until the transfer window opened. The Swedish season had finished so he came to train early. The fact that his wife and kids live in Scotland probably had a lot to do with him turning up early!
20

Jambo-ree,

05/01/2009 12:52:30
#20 Thanks for the clarifcation and you're right, I shouldn't have called him the Finnish boy. Finnish veteran would have been more correct ;o)
21

the west end general,

05/01/2009 12:55:52
16
I bet you a tenner that there is no 'get out clause'.
silly boy
22

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

05/01/2009 12:59:22
I really wish we would make an offer for Alan Gow - even if we have to let Berra go to rangers (for Gow and Velicka plus 3m cash). Gow playing behind Nade would be excellent. Lee Wilkie in at centre back would be a good option to cover Berra going.

My realistic wishlist would be:

In: Gow, Velicka, Lithuanian left-back, Balloch on a permanent, Black here in january, Wilkie
Out: Berra (only if we get 3m and players), Kingston (anything over 2m), Aguiar (anything over 1m), Zaluskis (anything over half mil), Miko (anything, just because he'll always be booked and hounded)

Really hope Driver stays. If he goes to the OF, I'd relieve Rangers of Chris Burke and 2.5m or Celtic of 3m.
23

TRUTH WINS,

musselburgh 05/01/2009 13:06:05
#23 Gow in talks with Wolves at the moment, fee has been agreed with Rangers
24

No. 5 - Ibrahim Tall,

05/01/2009 13:09:44
# Mixu 6 - 2

Your an embarrassment to yourself and Hibs.

I can't work out if your an old man with no life or an expelled school boy.
25

busbyfh,

05/01/2009 13:17:49
Rangers want Berra for £2m yet are trying to sell off Bougherra (Jungle Book ?) for £5m.
Figure that one out as Berra is the better player.

How many times have Rangers taken players off Edinburgh clubs and then let them sit on the bench or played them out of position - Either way - ruining them. BERRA - BEWARE. (Not that Vlad will sell to rangers anyway)
26

Chas Niceass,

05/01/2009 13:20:13
With regard to Riordan, I think he is suffering big time from depression. He must have felt Airchie when he headed off to Celtic to be a "superstar" but 2 years of reserve football and benchwarming have taken its toll. Back at Hibs, is back where he felt he was too good for, his ego has been bashed monumentally and with it his motivation is almost zero it would seem.
Going back, is always hard, let alone so soon in his career, the only way he will improve long term is by leaving for a fresh challenge, though he will always turn in the odd performance.
Glad he didnt sign for Hearts
27

Iain Bhern,

05/01/2009 13:21:24
#22 I don't gamble but any player or club that doesn't have a get out clause in pre-contract agreements would be plain daft and gambling, a lot can happen in six months! For example let's say that Black got a bad cruciate injury in the last game of the season. Would Hearts still want to sign him and have him on the payroll knowing that he wouldn't play for around twelve months? I think not! Likewise let's say Black has been offered 10K a week by Hearts then Aston Villa come along in May and offer him 40K a week, do you think he'd still want to come to Edinburgh? I don't.
28

hibbyspurs,

05/01/2009 13:24:33
I really wish we would make an offer for Alan Gow - even if we have to let Berra go to rangers (for Gow and Velicka plus 3m cash). Gow playing behind Nade would be excellent. Lee Wilkie in at centre back would be a good option to cover Berra going.

My realistic wishlist would be:

The first paragraph shows that you and realism dont go hand in hand mate.....

Let me surmaise your propsed transfer dealings -

For the services of Berra you feel rangers should part with Goe, Velicka AND £3,000,000?

Come on this is the real world and not championship manager when you add another player to manage Rangers and do some "shady" dealings on their behalf.....
29

The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

05/01/2009 13:25:07
#28 I would have thought a pre-contract agreement would be binding - otherwise whats the point?

Anyway. This transfer window is going to be interesting, will be the first time we see how Vlad and Csaba are going to work together - will Csaba get to identify his own players? Will Vlad sell players out from underneath him? Will any of this come as a surprise to Csaba?
I reckon we'll see a few players get sold on, hopefully with enough time for Csaba to bring in replacements. I predict now we won't see 11 players signing on the last day of the the window though!!
30

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 13:29:01
Happy New Year to all (not been on here for a while).

#8 is spot on re. how bad Hibs were on Saturday, the other Hibby posters on here are kidding themselves.

Maybe it's no surprise but my view is different from most Jambos on the match on Saturday. I thought Hearts played pretty well. They certainly deserved to win the game and if only we played with two strikers we could have scored a few goals.

I was really encouraged by Glen's appearance. He looks like an instictive goal scorer. If only Laszlo wasn't so pig-headed about one up front we might see some more entertainment.

The worry for me now is that following a decent first half of his first season Laszlo is going to struggle when his team is sold.

"Hearts boss will fight to stop sale of his best players" - in reality that fight would be with Romanov who has said he intends to sell anyone he gets an offer for. It's a fight Laszlo won't win.

If we could hold on to the best of the current squad and bring in 2 strikers and one or two others we could see real progress. I fear the worst for what Laszlo may be left to work with come the end of the transfer window however.
31

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

05/01/2009 13:31:45
#28 A contract's a contract. There's risk involved on both sides in any contract. For example, Black could get injured on Saturday.

#29 Gow's available for not very much apparently and Velicka's offered to us on loan apparently but is worth no more than 300,000 IMO. I think Berra's easily worth 4m in today's market, certainly if Rangers want 4.5 for Bougherra and got 9m for Hutton. They also paid 2m for Whittaker didn't they and Berra's a much better prospect. Come to think of it, I'd take Whittaker as part of an exchange deal.
32

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 05/01/2009 13:40:36
There is some interest in Christophe Berra from English Premiership clubs at the moment. According to one source, we have knocked back a £2.5million bid from Fulham already. After Saturdays performance...remember he was playing against a "striker" that Real Madrid coveted!!! Berra's value must have increased considerably.
Kingston is a very good player, but has a very poor attitude at Hearts these days, and he could be on the way out. That would be good for all concerned in my opinion.
I would love to see us hanging on to Berra and Driver until the end of the season, and I think we just might.
Karipidis, Bruno, Kingston, Zaliukas and Miko look like they could be on the move, all for different reasons.
Meanwhile down at Easter Road...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
33

huggs,

05/01/2009 13:41:44
NJ You fear the worst
Now thats a surprise what a doom and gloom glass half full man you are
You must be a barrel of laughs to have a pint with
34

ValdasTheMan,

Edinburgh 05/01/2009 13:44:02
#28 Your argument makes a nonsense of pre-contract agreements then.

I can't think of any pre-contract agreement which hasn't materialised into a signing in the summer. Correct me, there maybe a few, but the vast majority are signings in the summer?

Your example above, first point (injury) is covered by insurance, second what is stopping Aston Villa offering £40K a week now?
35

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

05/01/2009 13:44:58
Why are folk talking about Berra and mentioning Rangers as a possible suitor!.

Never going to happen, for one they couldn't afford him and 2 he wants to better himself by playing in the Priemership in the future why would he sign for Britains football shame. Wouldn't particularly want Gow or Velicka either as part of any deal or otherwise.
36

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 13:47:38
#34 I think you'll find my glass is half empty, not half full.

Unlike most of the people who post here, I have a life outside football and don't subscribe to the Bill Shankley doctrine of football being more important than life and death. It's only a game.
37

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

05/01/2009 13:49:28
#31 "I fear the worst for what Laszlo may be left to work with come the end of the transfer window however."

I have every faith in Laszlo. Even if half the current team left he'd still have more to work with than he did when he took over. Then he had a dispirited, disjointed, overpaid, demotivated, underperforming, unfit group of individuals. He's done a fantastic job in a short period of time and under huge media scrutiny.

Deserves more credit than he gets IMO rather than constant snidey remarks about his long press conferences, especially considering the owner he has to work with and the fact that he's completely new to Scottish football.
38

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 13:54:46
#38 I totally agree with you.

My point is that he keeps saying he wants to hold to his best players and build on the squad but I think that's out of his hands.

Our absentee owner has made it clear hat he intends to sell anyone he can and that replacements will be youngsters who in turn will be sold on. That's a tough job for any coach. If Laszlo is given some backing I'm sure he could achieve a great deal. If the best players are all sold off and there's no investment, the best coach in the world would struggle to keep them in the top 6.
39

Mr Mcgoo,

05/01/2009 13:55:39
Saturday was a pishtake without goals , Sunday will be a different story with the mighty lochend brazil put to the sword big stylee. 108 bring it on.
40

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 05/01/2009 14:04:29
I feel we have too often been on the right side of 1-0's for comfort (although accept is better than being on wrong side of them), however many of those games we were well on top and all comes down to lack of a finisher or two that we have all wanted for 18 months plus now.

Laszlos passion shows through but he has not been able to get best out of some players, Kingston in particular who have a lot more to offer.

41

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

05/01/2009 14:04:37
#39 "Our absentee owner has made it clear hat he intends to sell anyone he can and that replacements will be youngsters who in turn will be sold on. "

He hasn't said anything of the sort that I've seen. I read a comment saying players are attracting interest, he'll sell at the right price and that he wants to bring young players through to later sell. That's no different to any club, and makes total sense. Hearts have always done that, like all teams in Scotland, including the OF.

Plus, because Romanov won't speak to the Scottish press, all we get in the media is a Scottish journalist's version of a translator's interpretation of a foreign journalist's version of something Romanov said. Chinese whispers anyone? One thing's for sure he'll do his best to get top dollar on his terms, especially if the OF come calling.
42

Iain Bhern,

05/01/2009 14:04:50
#35 yes but that is the point everyone is missing. It's a pre-contract agreement not a pre-contract contract. Black is simply saying that if certain criteria are met he will sign a contract in the summer. Hearts likewise are saying that if Black meets criteria and the manager (whoever that may be) still wants him they will offer him a contract. All it would take would be for a new manager to come in who doesn't rate Black and the whole ball game changes. And before anyone jumps on me, I'm not suggesting Laslo is about to leave or get sacked!
43

BazJT,

05/01/2009 14:08:58
Iain Bhern,

You're talking complete and utter tosh. Just admit that everyone else is right and you are wrong and stop embarassing yourself.

Wouldn't it be funny though if he was right. Nah, Hell would have to freeze over, over Hibs win the Scottish Cup.
44

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 14:13:08
#42 "I read a comment saying players are attracting interest, he'll sell at the right price and that he wants to bring young players through to later sell."

That's pretty much what I meant. It's a far cry from "Transfers fees are no problem. £1m, why not £10m? If I could sign Zidane, I would" and claims of winning the Champions League. Now, despite the fact that he has total contempt for the fans and won't communicate, at least his intensions are clear (albeit via an interview in Russia)- cashing in on assets is what Hearts are about. He also said in the article "we have no aims in the league" or words to that affect.

So far he's brought in around £14m in transfer fees and paid out maybe £4 in his 3.5 years in control. Clearly his aim is to make a lot more than that now by selling and not buying. Fine, as long as the debt goes down accordingly and as long as the manager knows that's the deal (he doesn't seem to going by this article).
45

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 14:14:28
I meant £4m above!
46

BazJT,

05/01/2009 14:18:36
#45
There's nothing new here. Vlad has always said he would sell players for the right price but he wouldn't sell players on the cheap. And to be fair he's done that.

He's also always said that he wanted Hearts to remain a Scottish team and encourage youngsters to come through the ranks. This also seems to be happening.

I think the only thing he's got wrong is not recognising the power of the Scottish OF mafia putting every obstacle in his way.

47

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

05/01/2009 14:21:11
#45 I read your comment as him saying we're selling everyone we can. I honestly believe nothing I read in the papers about what Romanov has or hasn't said. Every club is about cashing in on assets - it's all about *when* you cash in. In years gone by Berra, Driver and Wallace would be long gone by now as we've reportedly turned down approaches from clubs already, and Hartley and Gordon would never have stayed as long.

One thing about Romanov is that he's tends to play hardball and get a good price for every player he's sold - I mean anyone who can get 9m for a Scottish goalie and loan-to-permanent agreements of more than 2m for Bednar and Goncalves is doing the right things!

Hibs for example could have made another 2 or 3m potentially by holding on to Scott Brown for longer and waiting for English clubs to get interested after he got more caps. He hasn't become a 9m player in one season.
48

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 14:24:11
"The situation I have at the moment is that the most scouts in the country come to watch Hearts, not another club".

That's a good reflection of the youth programme started by Jeffries and then Levein that has produced most of the players who are attracting interest - Berra, Driver, Wallace (and of course Craig Gordon before them) but it's also down to the fact that no other club has an owner who has been quoted as saying that he intends to sell his best players in January - and following on from well publicised cash flow problems resulting in players not being paid and creditors taking the club to court. No wonder the scouts are taking a look.
49

BazJT,

05/01/2009 14:28:23
#49 And I believe everything I read in the papers too !!

You can only go on past history and that doesn't amount to a fire sale. If it happens I'll be the first to eat humble pie. But until then as far as I'm concerned it's 'Innocent until proven guilty.'
50

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 14:28:24
#47 and #48 Fair points and I don't disagree about the Gordon sale - £9m was incredible business by Romanov and I said so at the time. Personally I'd rather have kept Bednar and / or Velicka.

I certainly hope we don't have to watch one up front for ever and that we can find a striker who can score more than one in 20 games. Surely Glen would be a better bet even though he's a different type of player to Nade.
51

BazJT,

05/01/2009 14:32:30
#51

Bednar always said he wanted to go, his heart wasn't in it and he wasn't trying so £2m was good business. I thought £1m for Velicka was good business too, although I'd have liked to have seen that money reinvested.

I'd still like to see Glen and Nade play together. We should give them a chance before bringing in somebody new.

52

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

05/01/2009 14:35:48
#49 I haven't seen a quote to that effect that says anyone is definitely getting sold. They'll only be sold if clubs want to buy them! If you look for negatives you'll find negatives. Our youth academy opened in 2004, before Celtic's and Hibs and we're now seeing the results. Hearts currently have the best crop of young players in Scotland, just as Hibs did a few years ago. Not just Berra and Driver, but Jonsson and Wallace, so it's natural scouts will come to watch. On top of that we are known to have financial trouble and so open to offers.

Hearts are not unusual anyhow - Rangers stated they want to sell 10 players. Hibs stated their policy is to rear and sell youth players and that they accept Fletcher will leave. Every club is strapped for cash.
53

Mixu 6 - 2 ,

05/01/2009 14:36:56
25 No. 5 - Ibrahim Tall,

hahahahahahahahahahaha...........................
Ibri ham small or Ibri ham lincolm................

I put him in the same category as Nade another Gorgie Leg-end...........................................

hahahahaha 6-2 7-0..............................

GGTTH.....
54

Mixu 6 - 2 ,

05/01/2009 14:39:43
Yes i know should be LINCOLN.........

IM A POUCH..............
55

huggs,

05/01/2009 14:45:24
NJ Where you at the game on Saturday?
56

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

05/01/2009 14:46:09
#54 If you are any age over 16 you should be very worried about what the future has in store for you! If under 16, there's still time if you lay off the smack now and stop supporting Hibs.

On the plus side, you do seem to know how to work a computer despite having obvious problems with the keyboard (typing with your thumbs does that I suppose) and appear to have some grasp of the basics of the English language. Work on your people skills and the sky's the limit my boy!
57

huggs,

05/01/2009 14:47:14
NJ Beleives every negative story in the paper about Hearts and Romanov
Always negative and forgets we are not the only club who will sell
How do you think Zola feels at West Ham
58

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 15:07:07
#58 I have no idea how Zola feels. I think there are certainly comparisons between Hearts and some of the English clubs with either foreign owners or absentee owners who only see the club as a financial investment for themslves.

Newcastle United is a good example - Kevin Keegan couldn't tolerate being told to finish in the top 4 with virtually no investment and when players were bought and sold it was done by the board without his knowledge. Now, Joe Kinnear is there and is saying "of course it's entirely up to me who comes in and who is is sold" - which I can only make sense of by the fact that the owner, Mike Ashley, no longer has an interest in the club and has given up his day-to-day interference and his told his puppets on the board to allow the coach to do his job. There seems to be a parallel with Hearts there to some degree.
59

huggs,

05/01/2009 15:10:50
NJ where you at the game ?
60

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 15:21:01
#60, no - I was away but watched it on Setanta. I have been to a couple of games at Tynecastle this season after boycotting the past 2 seasons in protest. I went back because I am happy with the progress that Laszlo is making and the changes in direction (in terms of having a coach pick the team).

Before you say anything, I have been following Hearts all my life and had a season ticket most seasons between 1983 and 2006, even though I haven't lived in Ediburgh for most of that period and now live in Newcastle.
61

Rambo The Jambo,

4-0 at Hampden 05/01/2009 15:21:59
# 59 Newcastle Jambo,

My court service colleague is a Newcastle supporter living in Edinburgh.

Imagine how he feels.

62

Astaroth,

05/01/2009 15:23:03
Yaks, keep on comforting each other.
It was a draw, Hibs were lucky.

However, Sunday now looms - which I feel will be totally different. That is, if Mixu can just get his substitutions timing right and tactics to suit in gear all at the same time. Otherwise Hibs are fkd.

And so is Mixu for that matter.

Mr. Mcgoo : Where's Waldo? Stuck between yer knees?

GGTTH
63

huggs,

05/01/2009 15:23:47
Well there you go a bit of a positive post
Things really must be looking up down gorgie way if your happy about something
64

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 15:27:11
#64 True, not all my comments are negative. I am blinkered in terms of my view of Romanov I must admit. I'll never forgive him for some of the decisions since Oct 2005.

#62 Rambo, I have every sympathy for the lad!
65

cannyseetheflairlike,

05/01/2009 15:28:25
How can the Hobo's play with so much flair and create virtually nothing, that's twice against Hearts ??

That fat and cheap option at the helm down show dwellers row must be scratching his baldy heed in sheer bewilderment !!!!

Had Nade any composure I'm sure results would have favoured us, that's football eh

Never mind should have enough to come Sunday to keep hibs humiliating cup record in tact

FTH and all who follow the filth
66

John H,

edinburgh 05/01/2009 15:33:24
57 You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself. Question is , do you deserve it? Doubt it given the fairly consistent tosh you come out with.
67

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 15:44:27
#68 I agree with your analysis. I really can't image Laszlo playing anything other than one up front I must admit so prepare to be disappointed.

It's a shame as there's no point in dominating the midfield and not scoring, especially in the cup. If only he'd play Glen from the start.
68

Keith Keith Keith...,

05/01/2009 15:52:29
Newcastle Jambo : Is your name Chris???
69

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 15:59:58
#70 Nope.
70

cannyseetheflairlike,

05/01/2009 16:04:05
Newcastle Jambo

Do you live at Biker, Biker, Biker Grove ?? ;-)
71

Iain Bhern,

05/01/2009 16:09:04
#44 I can assure you it's not tosh. A contract is a legally binding document, an agreement is not. It's that simple ! Black has not signed a legally binding contract, only an agreement that he will do so in the summer, if the terms he has been offered are met or bettered. Source of information on contracts/agreements? A former agent who stated that publicly !
72

huggs,

05/01/2009 16:10:45
NJ He has never really had much of an option to be fair
Hopefully youn Glen has given him food for thought
73

Iain Bhern,

05/01/2009 16:10:47
#74 Hearts barred Elliott from playing in the cup while he was on loan. That to me was a bit of a giveaway that they fully intended to have him back.
74

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 16:11:59
Can anyone give me short summary of Black - all I know is he plays in midfield. Is he central, wide, left or right footed, attacking or defensive. Is he any good and would he get a game?
75

cannyseetheflairlike,

05/01/2009 16:12:52
can assure you it's not tosh. A contract is a legally binding document, an agreement is not. It's that simple ! Black has not signed a legally binding contract, only an agreement that he will do so in the summer, if the terms he has been offered are met or bettered. Source of information on contracts/agreements? A former agent who stated that publicly


Bhern 75 * Re agents

Are you Jim McCarthur the convicted Flasher ??

FTH
76

Iain Bhern,

05/01/2009 16:14:16
#78 Dunno but he didn't look too bad against Rankers on telly yesterday.
77

Iain Bhern,

05/01/2009 16:15:14
No, I'm the head man at the SFA :o)
78

FINLAYBAR,

05/01/2009 16:18:17
On a diffrent note did anyone see the southampton left back this wend?
Oh how Skacels career has gone from strength to strength after leaving tynie far too quick.

League one beckons for Rudi. Join the scrap heap mate. Well done.
79

BazJT,

05/01/2009 16:20:47
#75

Tosh, tosh, tosh !

That'll be the same pre contract agreement that Vlad tried to back out of with Fernando Screpis. Only he couldn't because it was a legally binding contract.

Happy for you to prove me wrong but if you're right .. Oh no, Hell wil freeze over, sorry, Hibs will win the Scottish Cup.
80

BazJT,

05/01/2009 16:22:17
#81

Given some of the ridiculous guff that comes out of the offices of the SFA I can believe it. :)
81

BazJT,

05/01/2009 16:24:06
#78 Dunno either but he looked like he was being used as a deep sitting playmaker. Much like Super Barry without the crab legs !
82

BazJT,

05/01/2009 16:27:27
Seeing as someone mentioned the SFA !!

Can anyone believe this system whereby a referee can be the final judge on his decisions. i.e the Zaliukas incident.

What a laughing stock we must be in Europe. If the SFA had any sense of fairplay / rules they would ensure he never refereed an SPL game again. Not for the first time I will publicly praise Calum Murray for his performance at the weekend. Top game, why can't other refs follow suit, he only used a modicum of common sense after all. Sorry, rant over.
83

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 16:31:43
#82 I'd have Skacel back on a free anytime.

Also, how about this idea - bring back Pressley as player / coach? A good replacement for the departing Zaliukas.
84

huggs,

05/01/2009 16:39:58
NJ Skacel yes
Elvis sorry not good enough for us anymore Wilkie or youth for me
85

FINLAYBAR,

05/01/2009 16:40:45
I would have have Pressley back in a heartbeat but then i wouldn t have booted him out either.

All a bit sad that no one at the club listened to him as i think he and Laszlo would have made a great captain/manager team. Too slow now i think for us. He was looking too slow 2 years ago but a good influence on the younger players and we cant get enough of that.
86

Chas Niceass,

05/01/2009 16:42:14
NJ, feisty nippy wee player, got good feet, think he has played on the right side, good enough to be at Blackburn but not good enough to break into their first team. I do actually like what I've seen of him.

#86 Baz, I too thought Murray displayed the most common sense from a ref this season, pity he hadn't been at Pittodrie the week before and I'm sure the game would have been fair.

Not sure if Bruno will be back this weekend but look forward to Obuas re-introduction, Csaba mentioned he was another option for this week. The game against Motherwell is ill timed. A draw on Sunday wouldn't bother me, for a derby triple header in January, nae sure the bank account wants it though!
87

c mains hibby,

edinburgh 05/01/2009 16:50:36
BREAKING NEWS ,HEARTS SIGN STRIKER
Calum the cart horse is back at Tynie,Csaba,your prayers have been answered,and us Hobos are petrified not ,lol.
88

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

05/01/2009 16:53:50
cant believe there are still people who believe clum was unfairly treated #74 "dont think he wants to play for us again but who could blame him after all the abuse he took"

if he comes back he does so with a clean slate and well done for his performances at livi. we could do with a few goals. but to think he was anything other than a huffy, lazy waste of space last time round is just at it and he deserved the stick he got.

if he gets the finger out and shows the appetite/hunger he will be fine. if he shows the same lack of interest and huffiness then he will get exactly the same treatment. its all down to him how the fans treat him.
89

FINLAYBAR,

05/01/2009 16:56:30
92

Will take that at face value from a bloke who supports a team with colin nish in it!
90

Newcastle Jambo,

05/01/2009 16:58:11
#80. 85 and 90 Thanks Iain, BazJT and Chas for the low down on Black - sounds promising.

#91 Smityhy, I thought Burchill and particularly Lee Miller were good signings by Robbo in his short time as manager. Of course, he agreed deals to sign both but Romanov refused. All history now.
91

markatview,

05/01/2009 16:58:55
Calum elliot returns to hearts after scoring 11 goals in 13 games , if that was any other player i reckon hearts supporters would be raving about him but i fear hes not goin to be given a chance , hope im wrong cos at the very least he should be afforded the same clean slate like everyone else and let csaba make the decisions about the boy .. nade glen elliot in a 3 pronged attack anyone !! just kidding ..
92

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

05/01/2009 17:01:18
#97 totally agree with you - clean slate from me - but to think his treatment was "undeserved" is just taking the ......
93

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

05/01/2009 17:04:50
#98 sorry mate - i did!! and again in 99 but i hadnt seen your post! im willing to give him a shot. fresh start...if HE wants to show us what hes got. trouble is he is in the huff already!! mole and nade have shown its not all about goals and work rate and hunger and desire are enough.
elliott has a better record than nade.

how about the winner at er in the cup - that will get the fans onside???
94

Mad Monk,

05/01/2009 17:36:49
Just been reading the posts on here the yams wanting rudi skacel back,
the lad already told you where to go,
so did hartley, prestley, gordon,and soon berra,
driver that you go about don't think so, watched him on sat, another average bit o tosh,
good luck on your new arrivals,
more tosh from lith prob, poor team hearts especially at home,.
95

markatview,

05/01/2009 17:39:49
#102 Poor team 5 points in front of the team that taught brazil what does that say about you hahahaha hobos you have to laugh eh !
96

cannyseetheflairlike,

05/01/2009 17:41:47
Elvis is a celtic loving sh ite i hope he dies
97

markatview,

05/01/2009 17:45:16
#104 A bit strong like , direct your anger at a more deserving person likesy the mad monk that should be theraputic ,
98

markatview,

05/01/2009 17:46:49
csf 1874 where are you were having a mad ming attack ..
99

Dave the jambo fae Burnley.,

Burnley 05/01/2009 17:50:52
Nade would find it hard to get a job beside the rest of the donkeys on blackpool beach,he cost me a fortune on saturday as i had the Jambos at 1.0 and the donkey to score. LOL25
100

No. 5 - Ibrahim Tall,

05/01/2009 18:00:14
I dont think anyone has ever doubted Calum Elliots ability. His effort and desire is what the fans didnt like - Kingston is falling into that bracket now.
101

cannyseetheflairlike,

05/01/2009 18:27:19
Larry was poor on Sat.An other Rudi,, going through the motions before leaving
102

Phil C,

05/01/2009 19:21:47
What's that noise?....


FFFFzzzzzzzzzll.....



It's ok. It's just Goszlo's fight fizzling out!
103

Phil C,

05/01/2009 19:36:10
Usually Hibs fully deserve the plaudits but sadly they are no better than Hearts at the moment. Hearts industrial kick'n chase (hoofball) style of game seems to be spreading accross the city. Let's hope the disease can be stopped soon and Hibs can again be crowned the kings of the cool stylish passing game...even if Hearts bully and steal some results from Hibs from time to time.
104

Plantagenet,

05/01/2009 19:58:24
I've just been reading some of the comments of the Hibs fans in the Evening News, I'm wondering if the game looks a lot different from the School End of Tynecastle. Maybe they were talking about some other game? I think I am honest enough to admit that if Hearts scrape a draw against Hibs I will say if Hibs were the better team on the day. Surely all they have to do is ask themselves - who was the busier goalkeeper, how many times were Hearts denied by the woodwork? how many scoring chances did Hibs have, then How many for Hearts. Which team was using the spoiling tactics and getting bookings for their trouble? Just write your answers on the back of a Twenty pound note with an abject apology for your team's dismal display and send it to the Scottish Referees Appreciation Society.
105

Giuseppe Tortolano,

05/01/2009 20:12:39
Don't hold your breath Phil, that ain't going to happen with Mixu at the helm. The 2nd half on Saturday was truly awful, cringeworthy fare and I was delighted with the point.

- I pray that O'Brian's only getting his game because Mixu's trying to punt him. He made Nielson look accomplished on Saturday, ffs.

- It was clear that Berra had the measure of Fletcher in the air after 15 yet we continued to punt high balls forward.

- I can't remember us stringing more than 4 passes together the whole game.

- Mixu has no clue about substitutions - again we only made one.

- Mixu has no clue..............the "football" played by Hibs on Saturday was an embarressment.
106

Mad Monk,

05/01/2009 20:50:14
" Not become a selling club "

Are they Human, or are they Jambo, Are they Woolworths, in disguise. An there on their knees, Lookin' fur some spare change, haha,
not a selling club........

vultures at tynie, there's plenty, Vlads the biggest,

Are they Human, or are they Jambo, Are they Woolworths, in disguise. An there on their knees, Lookin' fur some spare change

haha.
107

bonad,

utopia 05/01/2009 20:52:13
#113

what the f**k are you on about "kings of the cool style passing game"ya deluded clown...............

nobody.i repeat nobody,plays passing football in the spl,least of all hibs.its a mith...............

stop kidding yourself you can become barca, arsenal or man utd again lol, in footballing terms,like hearts you are total p*sh,its just your a little bit more p*sh than hearts..................
108

Zohan,

05/01/2009 21:07:01
#114 could not agree more. this hibs lot think their fucin 1970 brazil. With a half decent striker for us it would have been no contest. They played 3 up front and we still had more chances 2 win the game. Very confident about sunday FTH. BTW when we've fkd them 5-1, 4-0 (fk knows how many times, including a semi) they still say their the better team.
109

Mad Monk,

05/01/2009 21:34:45
#118 zohan (kids character)

What happened to a mention of the 6 - 2 / 7 - 0 games,
yanty that you are, we'll see if you lot are on sunday afternoon, somehow i doubt it, keep bringing in the players january window,

yanty's
110

Mad Monk,

05/01/2009 21:40:13
Hibs fc own the Capital and have since 1875,

" first for everything " undersoil, europe, floodlights, sponsorship, i'd be here for a week if i went on, when did you last beat your main city rivals Hibs, a year ago huh,

Yanty's
111

Mad Monk,

05/01/2009 21:41:30
Zohan talking of Semi's, haha,
112

Mad Monk,

Snowing in Dublin........ 05/01/2009 21:50:10
The famous Hibernian fear no-one at easter rd, never have, even the old firm hate playing there, barca, leeds, liverpool, man un, porto,
113

markatview,

05/01/2009 21:53:30
121 2nd april 2006 that semi you on about , glad you remembered bet you werent there tho ,
THIS IS MY MY MY BEAUTIFUL SUNDAY ..
114

Plantagenet,

05/01/2009 22:13:55
115. No No No, I can't handle this, a Hibby taking a sensible view of his current team and manager's shortcomings. Why aren't you slagging off the Jambos, telling us we're bankrupt, flats in gorgie and all the usual drivel. How can I possibly insult you when you are obviously such a reasonable, sensible chap, you sure you're not a Jambo at the wind-up?
115

what a chancer,

from the dugout 05/01/2009 22:23:10
why does the manager not put up a fight to get rid of the money grabbers and time wasters,that still get a game,no shop window games will improve their standards,if we had a midfielder who could venture forward through the middle once he has passed the ball forward we might see our goal tally increase.
116

what a chancer,

from the bye line 05/01/2009 22:27:15
we must sell at a good price ,hanging on to players that are well above our salary scale increases our debt the bricks cant hide anymore ,past chairman have bent backwards to support managers dreams and see where we have ended up.

 

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