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Referendum challenge: 'Salmond's best chance is to stick to his plan'

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Published Date: 06 May 2008
WENDY ALEXANDER's challenge to the SNP to hold an early referendum on independence may at first glance appear to be playing into their hands.
But the only surprise is that it has taken Labour so long to realise that it will force the SNP to answer some difficult questions which up to now they have been able to avoid.

It may also give Labour and others opposed to the break up of the Uni
on the opportunity to bury the whole independence question for a considerable time, something that even Alex Salmond seems to desire these days.

While in the relative political wilderness of opposition it has been easy for the SNP to persistently call for change and hail independence as the answer to many of Scotland's ills. But now they are in power they have found themselves in the more difficult position of having to explain why this would be so. They have yet to define exactly what independence will actually mean and they run the real danger of alienating a large section of the electorate by spelling out the detail – something which some at the helm of the party are only too well aware of.

Since the heady days of the election victory when Mr Salmond boldly pronounced plans to hold a referendum, the subject has gradually slipped down the list of political priorities.

Certainly there have been conversations and conventions, but little else. And there is much work to be done if Mr Salmond wants to put the question to the country in 2010. All polls continue to suggest there is still no great appetite for independence and certainly before being asked to make a choice many will want to know exactly for what they are being asked to vote.

Would Scotland become a completely standalone nation or seek to maintain some ties, political and cultural, with other parts of the UK? Mr Salmond says he would continue to recognise the Queen as head of state, but would he say the same about Prince Charles?

Mr Salmond's best chance of maintaining the momentum from his solid performance to date is to stick to his plan to ask for the go-ahead to enter independence negotiations rather that go into the detail. Ironically, to do anything other would risk tearing the SNP apart.

Although Tory leader Annabel Goldie is opposed to a referendum, there are those within her party that side with Ms Alexander in wishing to force the issue sooner rather than later.

Ms Alexander has thrown down the gauntlet to the SNP, but dare they pick it up? The independence question is far from a straightforward yes or no and poses more dangers for Nationalists than Unionists. The problem for Mr Salmond is how he resists a growing clamour for a vote and not be seen to be running away from his party's ultimate goal and the one thing that binds it together.





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Proximaking,

Dundee 06/05/2008 09:41:37
A very dangerous game for unionists to play and one that they will lose. England will indeed gain its independence if a vote was allowed in Scotland but it will simply lead them down the plug-hole of history. The English will never make it out in the big bad world on their own, they are simply not mature enough, but it will be fun to watch them try for a few scary years. Roll on a vote and good riddance to the Southern subsidy junkies, ...... until they come crawling back cap in hand.
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Tom R,

06/05/2008 10:33:08
The next scheduled election in Scotland is the European election of 2009. The likelihood of the SNP continuing to build momentum for independence based on polling the largest % vote in Scotland for that election must be very high on at least the following grounds:

1) An independent Scotland would be represented at the "top table" at last and for the first time-no more Heath-like sellouts of the Scottish fishing industry for example.

2) Currently Scotland (population 5 million) has 7 seats in the EU Parliament although this may well be reduced to 6 by 2009. Compare this with the 13 for the independent Irish Republic (population 3.5 Million)

I set out below the number of seats that each independent state has currently-note that Scotland has the same number as Slovenia, a recent new member and with only a population of les than 2 million.

For how long are Scots going to vote against their own best interests-not much longer, I suspect :-)

The number of MEPs per country in the European
Parliament
The number of MEPs elected in each member state is related to the population. The smaller countries, however, have a larger number of seats
in relation to their population than the large countries. This is the
distribution of seats as from January 2007:
Country MEPs
Germany 99
France, Italy and United Kingdom 78
Poland and Spain 54
Romania 35
Netherlands 27
Belgium, Czech Republic, Greece, Hungary and Portugal 24
Sweden 19
Austria and Bulgaria 18
Denmark, Finland and Slovakia 14
Ireland and Lithuania 13
Latvia 9
Slovenia 7
Cyprus, Estonia and Luxembourg 6
Malta 5
Total 785
3

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 06/05/2008 11:01:19
Wide Mouthed Wendy Had A Plan

To Try And Outwit The Salmond Man

The Big U-Turn Looked Quite A Hit

Till The Salmond Went And Supported It

It Was She Not The Salmond That Where Given The Can
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neds-r-us,

06/05/2008 12:20:24
We should have an immediate referendum and let the Scots choose their constitutional future.

The SNP are going to look very stupid when they vote against a Labour referendum bill to let the Scots decide on their future.

Why does Salmond and his cohorts fear an immediate referendum?
5

Tynietiger,

06/05/2008 12:23:48
Lib Dems refused to go into coalition with SNP they they were opposed to referendum om independence.

Wendy Alexander said she opposed referendum on BBC on 28th March 2008 and was embarrassing to watch on Channel 4 news last night.

Wendy is flying a kite to distract from Labour's impending defeat at Westminster.

Lord Foulkes claimed that Scottish Parliament has no powers to hold referendum.

Gordon Brown refuses referendum on Lisbon Treaty.

Despite all that if independence referendum goes ahead in 2009 with record oil revenues going south and an unpopular Gordon Brown pleading for the Union I reckon independence would win a Yes / No question.

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familymanwith2jobsandawifeworkingfulltime,

Edinburgh 06/05/2008 13:01:15
Forget a vote on independance - I don't think the people of Scotland would have a clue on the potential outcomes.

Get rid of the Scottish Parliament and Labour at West Minster and let David Cameron get the country working. For too long, those in work have been supporting those who will do nothing to help themselves.
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Merouane,

Edinburgh 06/05/2008 13:22:52
"Since the heady days of the election victory when Mr Salmond boldly pronounced plans to hold a referendum, the subject has gradually slipped down the list of political priorities."

No it's not. They always planned for 2010 after they had a change to prove themselves in government. This is just one of a number of cases in this article where you're clearly trying to manipulate your readership. Do you think we're stupid? Do you have no self-respect as a journalist? Maybe you think defending the Union is such a worthy cause that such underhand tactics are acceptable.
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Tynietiger,

06/05/2008 17:04:13
Agree with Mercouane. Another muddled editorial from EEN and follows Scotsman this morning which seemed to think that the rigged 1979 referendum was on independence.

 

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