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Published Date: 22 April 2009
HARD-UP students struggling to find a part-time job because of the recession will be forced to drop out of university if the Scottish Government does not step in with extra funding, it was claimed today.
The careers service at Edinburgh University has reported a 20 per cent reduction in the number of jobs being advertised through them for students trying to fund their way through their studies, despite working "increasingly hard" to find vacancies.

Its student leader, Adam Ramsay, says the current financial climate has meant this is "the first time in a generation" that people have struggled to get part-time work and warned it will inevitably force some – particularly people from poorer backgrounds – out of university.

Mr Ramsay, president of the Edinburgh University Students' Association, said: "The last few weeks have seen students come into our Advice Place because they can't find part time work.

"This is the first time we have seen this problem for a generation. Our higher education system is built around the assumption that students from poorer backgrounds will get a part-time job.

"Now this job market has dried up, and we expect to see students dropping out of university."

Mr Ramsay is calling for the Scottish Government to intervene and guarantee a minimum income for students of £7000 per year to ensure poorer students are not being forced to drop out of university, or prevented from going in the first place.

He said: "A short-term recession cannot be allowed to mean a whole generation of poorer students drop out of education. The Government must increase the level of student support to at least £7,000 a year as soon as possible."

The extent of the financial struggle faced by students can be seen in the sharp increase in people applying to their universities for hardship grants.

Nationally, around £16 million was distributed by the Scottish Government in university hardship funds for 2008/09, which is an eight per cent increase on 2007/08. Edinburgh universities have seen as much as a 50 per cent increase in students asking for financial help.

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: "We have recognised that the student support system was inadequately funded by previous administrations and that is why we have provided £38m to introduce grants and are currently consulting on a wide range of proposals.

"We have also substantially increased the funding available for higher education discretionary funds from £14.04 million to £16.1m this year."

60 applications .. two interviews
AFTER a year of job searching, Matt Norris is still on the hunt for part-time work to help him fund his university days.

Despite having sent in around 60 applications and CVs to companies, the 19-year-old has received only two interviews.

The second-year psychology student at Edinburgh University is mainly looking for part-time retail jobs.

Mr Norris, who lives in the city centre, is just about surviving thanks to his student loans, bursaries and his overdraft, but is worried about the long-term impact of this.

He said: "After you take away what you spend on accommodation, you're not left with much.

"I have been trying to get a job since last May and have only had two interviews.

"I'm applying for a residential English language camp in the summer but I would prefer to have a steady part-time job."

He added: "I have also come to the realisation that there's little to no chance of getting a job in psychology when I finish."





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SandyBottoms,

Edinburgh 22/04/2009 11:39:39
Ah psychology, nothing like a humanities degree that means the only thing you're good for is blogging or serving chips. And Edinburgh University is particularly hard on their humanities students: all their job fairs focus on students with business or science degrees.

If you are a humanities student, and you don't want to teach or be a lawyer, CHANGE YOUR DEGREE NOW!!

Parents, discourage your children from studying things they might find interesting, and inform them that if they pursue knowledge for knowledge's sake, they will be in debt for the rest of their lives. DON'T LET THEM RUIN THEIR LIVES AND THEIR CREDIT!
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allknowing,

22/04/2009 12:01:03
Heres an idea, only go to university if you actully require a degree to get into a profession, like law, medicine etc.

Why do you need a degree in music? or stage management, or candaian studies???
3

Cod,

22/04/2009 12:13:41
Go to University to drink, party and pull birds. I did. That's what it's there for surely.
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alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 22/04/2009 12:48:19
This is very sad news,we may lose a lot of clever people if something is not done to help them.
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simonp,

eh11 22/04/2009 12:50:33
why not scrap most undergraduate courses and extend the Open University?
6

Tuco,

22/04/2009 13:00:26
I would have thought with the massive student loans available that students would be able to survive without part-time jobs.
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Forrest,

Livingston 22/04/2009 13:14:22
Maybe kids should start going to their local uni and live at home - that would reduce their money requirement each month!
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S Wilson,

22/04/2009 13:23:27
I worked in MacDonalds on Princes St for a period to help get me through Uni. It wasn't a pleasant experience but I knew it was only short term so stuck it out. Mr Norris might have to lower his expectations!

#1 The majority of people with a half decent humanities degree from Edinburgh go on to do something worthwhile. I agree thought that if it's money your after do a Business, Science or Engineering related degree.
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me150,

22/04/2009 13:50:22
Degree's have been reducing in value in recent years. So many people have degrees that it is very difficult to find work even with one. Many tutors give so much help to students to ensure that pass rates are high.

So many people leave uni unable to get work that the value of any degree is dubious. Are we now returning to a time like we had decades ago when it was wiser to get your education in the workplace and forget uni altogether?
10

elayne,

22/04/2009 14:04:48
everyone and their dug has a degree nowadays
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22/04/2009 14:07:06
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tomias,

Edinburgh 22/04/2009 15:01:16
Why do jobs dry up ? No water festivals ?
A degree course? Hairdressing counts now-a-days.
IF they just want travel. sex, unlimited expenses, join a political party and become a researcher !
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PegasusEH3,

Edinburgh 22/04/2009 15:41:58
Or go to [Edinburgh] Napier to attend the couple of hours a week that a course demands, get a full-time job, and leave with a degree in business management. Also useful for anyone wanting to learn Polish or Chinese. A single-celled amoeba once failed to get a degree at [Edinburgh] Napier but otherwise it's a dead cert.
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22/04/2009 16:12:52
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Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 22/04/2009 16:41:44
While I believe in continuing education at Colleges and Universities, there are just too many students in our Universities and sadly most of them have little prospect of getting good jobs (at least in the UK) when they graduate.

Also, it is not just Humanities graduates who are suffering, so are Science and Engineering students - one of my sons has two science degress and cannot find work in these areas.

The current recession must be having a severe impact on the earning abilities of students during the vacations, but sadly, I do not think that the government and the rest of society should, or could bail them out.

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Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 22/04/2009 17:05:34
#7
i wouldn't recommend that to anyone after doing that myself - it drove my parents nuts staying up late at university and at home to complete courseworks.
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Lady of Shallot,

the hell that is revision 22/04/2009 18:20:00
#15 - we're not asking anyone to bail us out - just raise the amount of student LOAN per year to £7,000

I had a cr*p time trying to get work last summer and ended up being ripped off a weeks wages - doesn't look like I'll get anything at all this year!
And I have years of work experience in graduate-level jobs (without a degree!) And no, I'm not doing Humanities, Ethnology or Canadian studies etc - but a science degree.

Big Issue! Get your Big Issue here ...
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simonp,

eh11 23/04/2009 08:26:29
if the OU was expanded students could live at home and work too...no loans!!!

S
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Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 23/04/2009 10:03:39
#17 Lady of Shallot,the hell that is revision

I'm truely sorry to hear that, but, may I just make the point that most graduates are already toiling to pay back their debts based on the current loan system. With great respect, many more of you would be in a much worse position with loans of £7,000 per annum.

Let's face it, there are just too many people at Universities and Colleges without matching job opportunities when they leave education.

#18 Simon,

Yes, I agree, the OU is a great organisation and should be given greater investment and encouragement by UK governments.

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Dr Paul,

the internet 23/04/2009 10:38:50
A good alternative to asking other people for jobs is to start your own business - perfectly do-able even as a student.

When I was studying in Glasgow I set myself up as a pub quizmaster and ended up getting paid £100 a night.



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23/04/2009 11:26:59
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