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Published Date: 20 June 2008
BAGPIPERS have been cleared from the Royal Mile as police step up their drive against the "noise nuisance" caused by Scotland's national instrument.
Pipers performing in the famous street have found themselves approached by a pair of police officers and ordered to stop and not return.

The move dismayed on-lookers outside the High Court building in the Lawnmarket on Saturday.

The pipers – who innocently visited the tourist hotspot to busk – were given acceptable behaviour contracts (ABCs) to sign. That means they risk arrest and having their instruments seized if they return, with persistent offenders facing being served with an Asbo.

Police chiefs said today they had a duty to deal with a string of noise complaints from residents.

But the blitz has raised concerns that valuable police resources are being wasted dealing with relatively minor incidents.

Inspector Bruce Johnston, sector inspector for the city centre, said: "If we receive complaints, it's our duty to respond to them. And these are not single complaints, many pipers have multiple residents contacting us.

"These are officers in the city centre who wear yellow jackets and are on patrol as a high-profile deterrent. If they have to deal with complaints about a piper, that takes them away from other areas they could be patrolling, which is something I don't want.

"But once these pipers have been spoken to once or signed an ABC, they've not come back."

But Stefan Tymkewycz, the SNP councillor for Craigentinny and Duddingston, today called for a deal to be struck to ensure the pipers could continue to play on the Royal Mile.

"The bagpipes are Scotland's national instrument and the Royal Mile is a top tourist location. Perhaps the residents and pipers can achieve a compromise deal where they can play in certain locations or at certain times of day," he said.

Police have been forced to deal with up to 20 complaints a day about noise nuisance. As a result, they gathered the names and addresses of the offending pipers, and posted out contracts to around 20 of them, all of which were returned signed.

City centre councillor Charles Dundas said: "We need to strike a balance between a living city centre and a city centre to live in. I think the police are doing that because there are non-residential areas to play."

Police chiefs say that the pipers performances are regarded as unlicensed trade and are technically buskers. They say most of the pipers do not live in the city centre, with some of them are coming from Glasgow, and making up to £80-an-hour tax free.

An exception will be made during the Edinburgh Festival Fringe when pipers will have to pay a £50 performance fee for a 20-minute slot outside the Tron Kirk.

Independent Lothian MSP Margo MacDonald said: "It's a popular area and one of the things people come for is the pipers. I wouldn't like to see them removed altogether. Maybe they can come to an arrangement with residents over a time of day to stop, and how many will be in the Royal Mile at once."

She added: "I would prefer someone other than the police to deal with this."


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  • Last Updated: 20 June 2008 10:45 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Royal Mile
 
1

Les insolences du Frère Untel,

20/06/2008 15:26:46
I Was starting to go cold turkey.
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Douglas,

Bathgate 20/06/2008 15:28:10
Inspector Bruce Johnston, sector inspector for the city centre, said: "If we receive complaints, it's our duty to respond to them." He may have added that the police have strict rules on prioritising officers attendance:
1 Pipers
2 Pavement advertising
3 Break in at senior officers home (all to attend)
4 Verbal slurs on minorities
5 Drinking in public
6 Rape
7 Murder
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Frank Booth,

20/06/2008 15:28:18
giving them ABCs is stupid and unnecessary, piping isn't exactly sly so I doubt they'll be back.
otherwise I'm well pleased about this. I hate the noise and the way they perpetuate some the stupid tourist vision of scotland...down with tartan!
4

Les insolences du Frère Untel,

20/06/2008 15:31:34
Does this have any implications for the Silver Kraftwerk Guy ? I sincerely hope not.
5

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

20/06/2008 15:41:56
Hmmm, perhaps two traditional High Street art forms could combine to resolve the issue: mime and bagpipers.
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tomias,

Edinburgh 20/06/2008 15:43:00
Imagine half a million a go, an asbo for each piper; boy well worth while being a busker eh?
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alex paterson,

edinburgh 20/06/2008 15:52:28
I think the polis should concentrate on catching villains and real law breakers,pipers have been seen on the High Street for years.
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

edinburgh 20/06/2008 15:55:51
invented in greece, adopted by the irish who gave them to us scots (and we have'nt got the joke yet!). thank gawd!!! most of these people who stand outside peoples places of work or residences cant play the damn things anyway, they make £80 an hour tax free! bet theres a few in salamader street that would like that return?? the city is spoiled by the noise they create and it spoils a nice walk.
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20/06/2008 16:15:07
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sar,

edinburgh 20/06/2008 16:20:06
#8 Black sea
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20/06/2008 16:22:13
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20/06/2008 16:23:26
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Franck,

20/06/2008 16:54:20
Easy way to deal with it is to licence that as street traders.

THen they can at leats be of some form of standard and be proven to be worthwhile.

If you ain't got a licence then you get the chanter seized.

Easy as.
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Boy Wonder,

20/06/2008 17:13:50
I'm NOT a fan of these instruments of torture ... but removing the pipers from where they are expected be seen and heard, is just ridiculous!
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Senga Jean,

20/06/2008 18:02:29
I love pipe music but constant playing by many with low skill does no favours to the great instrument. Even if played well hour after hour is not good for people working nearby. There is a time and place and thank goodness the police have stepped in.
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Call me cynical, but,.........,

20/06/2008 19:48:40
Isn`t it fantastic to see that the police have stopped all the crime, drunkenness and anti social behaviour in the Lothian and Borders now, and they still have time left over to hassle the pipers on the Royal Mile. - I wonder who will be their next target to hassle, instead of trying to catch some criminals and neds who make folks lives real misery.
Why does the phrase " easy option " spring to mind ??
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JT,

20/06/2008 19:51:11
What is this country coming too!! I was travelling toward the west end on a bus tonight on princes street when I was blasted by electronic pipe music from one of the kilt shops on the other side of the road, above the traffic and people noise! what makes them different from the pipers? Shops like this should be included on this. As for the police, surely they have better things to do such as keeping the city safe from muggers and murderers!
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LeithDandy,

Leith 20/06/2008 19:57:49
How dare the police deal with complaints made by the public. Its not an easy option..... Its their job!!!

The poeple who complain about the bagpipers should be ashamed of themselves for wasting the time of the police.

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The Dullard,

21/06/2008 02:43:24
its these human statues they should get rid of, they get on my teats
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celtic4,

USA 21/06/2008 02:56:22
With no pipers on the Royal Mile, just one more good reason not to come into Edinburgh. I love pipe music, and was looking forward to seeing and hearing it done. Too bad.
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mark23,

21/06/2008 02:57:36
Bagpipes have been played in Scotland for hundreds of years, long may it continue. It's the definitive musical instrument of Scotland, our own Governmant/Law enforcement and a dull minority of complainers is trying to push it off the streets, ridiculous! If you told people abroad that bagpipe players were getting banned from the streets of Scotland you'd get laughed at! The irony is that it's true.
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jimb4abobor2,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 03:44:37
yes yes the national music is been hit now and all because they dont pay tax what a greedy goverment well well i did warn you about labour if we dont get a share off the performance then well ban it bloody disgusting i think we should set up a petition to help our pipers win this. Pipers = tourists = money = trade =funding for businesses in the city try and get it right council or you will have an empty city centre. i'ts like going to egypt too see the pyramids what would you do if you arrived and your were banned from seeing the pyramids you wont go back again simple? whats the world coming too what a load of bagpuss
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Ian Ross,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 13:11:11
Pipers have been part of the Royal Mile for as long as I can remember. Haven't the police got anything better to do ? How about getting rid of all the beggars and drunks instead? Oh no, that aint politically correct!
25

suscopas,

edinburgh 13/08/2009 11:45:21
The question of pipers being a 'problem' in the Royal Mile has been raised again. As of yesterday pipers who had already paid to busk in the Fringe have had all their slots cancelled. Reason given to the Fringe organisers: 'We have been informed by the police that the crowds that gather when pipers are positioned behind the Hume statue are causing a heath and safety risk by forcing people into the road. Crowds travelling to the Tattoo obviously aggravate this situation'. Seeing as piping slots were between 5 and 6pm and the Tattoo starts at 9pm I don't understand what health and safety issues could have been caused. So as of yesterday you won't hear any official piping in the Royal Mile. The one thing that tourists want to hear especially in the Year of Homecoming!

 

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