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Published Date: 09 October 2008
IT'S not quite the historic showdown between Barack Obama and John McCain, but the countdown has now begun to the long-awaited Glenrothes by-election.
And the result of the Fife contest – which takes place just two days after the US presidential election – could provide the first evidence of how voters are reacting to the current economic crisis.

The SNP is still riding high in the polls after n
early 18 months in power at Holyrood. But the banking collapse and the resulting financial earthquake have seen the focus of attention shift to the Government at Westminster.

The fast-changing economic situation, last week's dramatic Cabinet reshuffle and Gordon Brown's handling of the crisis will all be offered up for the voters' verdict on November 6.

Nevertheless, the SNP still start as favourites to take the seat from Labour, despite the 10,664 majority last time.

In times past, a by-election in such a strongly working-class constituency as Glenrothes – which includes Cardenden, Markinch, the Wemyss villages and Methil, as well as the new town itself – would not have caused a ripple. Labour would have held the seat effortlessly.

It is a measure of the dramatic change in Scottish politics that, following the Nationalist victory in the equivalent seat of Central Fife at last year's Holyrood elections, this contest is being seen as the SNP's to lose.

The SNP need a 13.8 per cent swing to take the seat – well below the 22.5 per cent they achieved in Glasgow East. And a poll in the constituency last month found Labour and the SNP neck and neck.

Former Glenrothes MP John MacDougall died in August after a long battle against the lung disease mesothelioma.

But Labour was in no rush to call a by-election to replace him. In its two previous by-elections, Crewe & Nantwich and Glasgow East, it made a dash to the polls, only to suffer devastating defeats.

This time, it was judged a quick contest, hot on the heels of the SNP's Glasgow victory, would do Labour no good. Better to wait until Gordon Brown had had the chance to rally the troops at the party conference – and there was always the possibility the economy might begin to pick up again.

Instead, the economic situation has got dramatically worse. But ironically that may have a more significant effect. It means voters will arguably see the Prime Minister at his best, using the experience of his ten years as Chancellor to handle an unprecedented global financial crisis.

A senior Labour insider said: "People are finally recognising this is a worldwide problem and since he has been saying it for so long, their reaction is 'Gordon Brown was right'. And it has made Alex Salmond look quite small because he has no power."

The by-election was once going to be the watershed to decide Gordon Brown's fate as Prime Minister. But the agitation for a change of leadership in the Labour Party has died down because of the economic crisis.

And some believe yesterday's dramatic rescue package, along with the shock return of Peter Mandelson in last week's Cabinet reshuffle – far better handled than most of Tony Blair's reshuffles – show Mr Brown has a grip on the crisis.

Iain Gray's election to replace Wendy Alexander as Scottish Labour leader and Jim Murphy's appointment as full-time Scottish Secretary both help to give the party a fresh start after Glasgow East.

But the change might not have time to filter through.

An SNP source said: "The by-election is too soon for Labour's fightback."

He believes the SNP will win, but he said: "Labour are digging their heels in and are more up for a fight. They are being more cute about things, bringing Jim Murphy on board and so on."

And he admitted the Nationalists are not managing to get activists out to campaign in this by-election in the same numbers as they did for Glasgow East.

Whether it's the darker nights or an element of fatigue, he's not sure. "We're just not getting the same bodies going through. People seemed a lot more prepared to go and work in Glasgow East – but it was the summer recess and easier for people to take time off to help."

And he pointed out there are also several local council by-elections under way, including the one in Edinburgh's Forth ward.

Mr Brown was heavily criticised for his failure to make an appearance in Glasgow East during the by-election and there are signs he is ready to ignore the "convention" that Prime Ministers don't get involved in by-elections and join the campaign in Glenrothes.

His intervention, when he was Chancellor, in the last Fife by-election – Dunfermline & West Fife in 2006 – did not prevent the embarrassment of the seat falling to the Liberal Democrats.

The Lib Dems and the Tories are both also-rans in this contest. But Glenrothes is right next door to Mr Brown's own Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath constituency and staying away would be portrayed as cowardice.

Jim Murphy has said Labour is the underdog in this contest. Some believe the party has already lost.

And the SNP is already accusing Labour of hoping to bury a bad result in the aftermath of the US elections.

But, just as Obama seems to be edging ahead of his rival due to the economic crisis, it is just possible financial turmoil could help Mr Brown out of trouble.





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  • Last Updated: 09 October 2008 5:21 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Ian Swanson
 
1

clan_mackay,

09/10/2008 10:40:39
A senior Labour insider said: "People are finally recognising this is a worldwide problem and since he has been saying it for so long, their reaction is 'Gordon Brown was right'. And it has made Alex Salmond look quite small because he has no power."

All the more reason to SNP and Independence 2010

People of Glenrothes its time to give Liebour the BOOT..
2

Doh,

09/10/2008 10:52:23


Gordon Brown was right to encourage a credit boom for ten years and call it growth.

He has also eliminated boom and bust.
3

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 09/10/2008 11:09:40
Voters might just remember that Gorgon (Prudence) Brown kept telling us that he had ended the boom and bust cycle. Unfortunately he forgot to introduce legislation of the financial sector to ensure that they did take crazy risks. Their assurances that a light touch and self regulation was all that was needed was good enough for him.
We are now concerned about the poor state of many pension funds and that has been mainly caused by the above and also the billions that Brown has taken out of pension funds in tax.
He also can afford a new Trident, Afghan and Iraq wars but can't do much about fuel and child poverty in this country.
There is no oil fund as he and his predecessors have squandered it all, probably to make sure that Scots cannot really evaluate the fortune that has poured south past them into the treasury.
His prodigality is only extended to the rich where he has kept his promise of never increasing the higher rate of income tax.
Maybe these do not affect the voters of Glenrothes, time will tell.

4

Alan B,

09/10/2008 12:20:03
Cannot see why anyone would be stupid enough to vote for labour.

We have had the dishonesty of Blair, the incompetency of Brown, the shambles of Wendy, and the insult of being saddled with Gray.

No matter your views surely people can find a better option in one of the 3 other major parties.

5

JCA REID,

Annan 09/10/2008 12:28:05
Brown simply fuelled his idea of "growth" simply by introducing something like 70new taxes by stealth, robbing peoples' Pension Funds on an annual basis & this with ever increasing oil revenues!
Yet still the kitty is bare!
You couldn't make this up!!
I'm not much of a fan of the major parties anyway, but Labour are still the party of 'Plunder & Blunder'.
6

BIG EYE,

Paisley 09/10/2008 12:35:19
"People will see the Prime Minister at his best"

When does this start then?

All I can see is a hopeless incompetent, completely out his depth, swithering from one crisis to another, as his decade of power based on irresponsible public spending,PFI and ever increasing, unregulated, crushing debt all lead to meltdown in the British economy.

The best thing he could do is resign. It may be no time for novices but it is certainly no time for mindless donkeys
7

steve 1511,

aberdeen 09/10/2008 12:59:55
our great leader comrade kim broon of the liebour sleaze and corruption party has bankrupted the country with his lax controls when he was chancelor,the next government will have its hands tied with a bankrupt economy,and once the cost of pfi debt in scotland comes on the books next year we will see the incompentance of the liebour /lib goverment in scotland,we are DOOMED WITH BROON,DOOMED I TELL YOU
8

Linda,

Edinburgh 09/10/2008 13:14:17
This is no time for a novice. The inexperienced Labour candidate was atrocious on STVs Poltics Now on 25th September (watch online if you don't believe me) and the version screened was the third take as Labour claimed their candidate had made a mistake on first two versions.

By contrast SNPs Peter Grant has been a Local Councillor in Glenrothes for 16 years and leader of Fife Council, Peter Grant is a great local champion and has campaigned for years on local issues such as tolls on the Forth and Tay bridges, now abolished by the SNP. Fife Council, led by Peter Grant, has frozen the council tax, after it had risen by 61% under Labour.

9

Arfur,

09/10/2008 13:26:12
"People will see the Prime Minister at his best" - ehhh????

All he has done has gone from crisis to crisis as BIG EYE says.

As for the credit crunch it was him as Chancellor for ten years that allowed over lending.

It is now him as PM that is nationalising these banks.

It is him as PM that moved too slow on this.

It is him as PM that will not guarantee 100% of savings.

It is him as PM that has only done a 0.5 point drop when it should have been a 1 point or 1.5 point.
10

Team Scotland,

09/10/2008 13:27:16
#4 Alan B
Labour are Neo-cons. Neoconservatism appeals to the stupid. We do not keep the data but in the USA the picture is clear enough.

- STATE___________Average IQ __ Voted
1 Connecticut 113 John Kerry
2 Massachusetts 111 John Kerry
3 New Jersey 111 John Kerry
4 New York 109 John Kerry
5 Rhode Island 107 John Kerry
6 Hawaii 106 John Kerry
7 Maryland 105 John Kerry
8 New Hampshire 105 John Kerry
9 Illinois 104 John Kerry
10 Delaware 103 John Kerry
11 Minnesota 102 John Kerry
12 Vermont 102 John Kerry
13 Washington 102 John Kerry
14 California 101 John Kerry
15 Pennsylvania 101 John Kerry
16 Maine 100 John Kerry
17 Virginia 100 George Bush
18 Wisconsin 100 John Kerry
19 Colorado 99 George Bush
20 Iowa 99 George Bush
21 Michigan 99 John Kerry
22 Nevada 99 George Bush
23 Ohio 99 George Bush
24 Oregon 99 John Kerry
25 Alaska 98 George Bush
26 Florida 98 George Bush
27 Missouri 98 George Bush
28 Kansas 96 George Bush
29 Nebraska 95 George Bush
30 Arizona 94 George Bush
31 Indiana 94 George Bush
32 Tennessee 94 George Bush
33 North Carolina 93 George Bush
34 West Virginia 93 George Bush
35 Arkansas 92 George Bush
36 Georgia 92 George Bush
37 Kentucky 92 George Bush
38 New Mexico 92 George Bush
39 North Dakota 92 George Bush
40 Texas 92 George Bush
41 Alabama 90 George Bush
42 Louisiana 90 George Bush
43 Montana 90 George Bush
44 Oklahoma 90 George Bush
45 South Dakota 90 George Bush
46 South Carolina 89 George Bush
47 Wyoming 89 George Bush
48 Idaho 87 George Bush
49 Utah 87 George Bush
50 Mississippi 85 George Bush
11

Marian,

09/10/2008 14:29:25
The “revelation” in the media recently about the existence of massive numbers of sub-prime mortgages in the UK exposes the lie that Gordon Brown has been trying to tell UK voters - namely that the economic crisis was imported from America. Despite his claims that "a big boy did it and ran away" the indisputable fact is that Northern Rock and HBOS collapsed because of their UK exposure to sub-prime mortgages - and this disastrous financial product was allowed to flourish under Gordon Brown economically illiterate chancellorship of the UK economy.
12

Edward,

09/10/2008 15:13:39
The dithering and delay in doing something by Brown and Darling either show how incompetent they really are or a more sinister side of Labour's campaign to make Gordon look good
Then there was the constant leaking to Labour's mouth piece Robert Peston, which brough the market down - was this intentional or Peston just doesnt know when to keep something sensitive to himself or both.
Lots and lots of background breifing by Labour to there chosen pack of journolists (you know who they are) regarding RBS. Even up until last nights edition of Reporting Scotland, which came out with a complete string of false information, such as RBS seeking capitalisation from the Government, RBS about to be part nationalised and RBS having made a loss. Where on earth did they get all that from? As the fact of the matter is RBS are NOT seeking capitalisation and RBS made a healthy £ 5 billion profit for the first half of the year, which they chose to use in writing off some debts, not something that a bank in trouble would bother with.
Indevidually nothing much, but when you start to string all the news items put together you begin to wonder. Then again Alistair Campbell is back in town and working on Labour's cmpaign for the next general election, with the breif to make Labour and Gordon look good
13

jenny,

musselburgh 09/10/2008 16:26:46
And who said the libdems are "also-rans in this contest" - I think not - hope that Ian Sqanson may have to eat his words!
14

jenny,

musselburgh 09/10/2008 16:27:31
Apologies to Ian in comment 13. for mis-spelling his surname - Swanson, of course.
15

Linda,

Edinburgh 09/10/2008 16:56:14
Jenny Like Glasgow East, Glenrothes is a two horse race.

The inexperienced Labour candidate was atrocious on STVs Poltics Now on 25th September (watch online if you don't believe me) and the version screened was the third take as Labour claimed their candidate had made a mistake on first two versions.

By contrast SNPs Peter Grant has been a Local Councillor in Glenrothes for 16 years and leader of Fife Council, Peter Grant is a great local champion and has campaigned for years on local issues such as tolls on the Forth and Tay bridges, now abolished by the SNP. Fife Council, led by Peter Grant, has frozen the council tax, after it had risen by 61% under Labour.
16

Saruman,

09/10/2008 18:05:39
It comes as something of a surprise to me that a poll last month found it to be "neck and neck", as I think it will to many. Given their current popularity (however undeserved), I'd have expected any poll to be predicting a natinoalist majority of at least 5,000.

Are the Natz at long last beginning to lose some of their shine?
17

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09/10/2008 18:23:49
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18

John Knox furr First Meenister,

09/10/2008 20:09:53
#15 Linda - quite agree, the Labour candidate was appalling on Politics Now. If that's the best that Labour can come up with, they deserve to lose. You'd need your heid examined to vote for him.
19

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 09/10/2008 20:12:45
#17 "Remember you have been warned. Get your savings out of the RBS NOW."
Oh dear laddy, don't take yourself too seriously. I shouldn't be too worried - I don't suppose anyone else is.
20

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

09/10/2008 21:25:38
do we need an Englishman to come up here & try to preach to us the benefits of voting Labour ?
21

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

09/10/2008 21:27:08
#19 - not just the RBS - any bank ! Get your money & savings out now. You have been warned !
22

Ewan M,

09/10/2008 22:28:22
Voting for Scotland is not a vote for the SNP. Ask yourself this how many manifesto pledges has the SNP been willing to ignore. Student loans, nursery care.....
23

jenny,

musselburgh 09/10/2008 23:31:53
Re comment 15, a recent newspaper poll showed that the libdems were one of the parties in the two horse race!!
24

subrosa,

10/10/2008 00:25:02
Is Mr Roy the 4th or 5th choice? Lost count.

Why is a recently appointed 'troubleshooter' headmaster interested in being a politician when he said on STV he wasn't a politician? Would that stand up in a CV of a person who applied to his school for a position of teacher when they said I'm not interested in being a teacher.

Mr Roy, get on with what you're good at and stop trying to help your pal Gordon out of the mess he's made of the UK in the past 11 years. Your school would now be far better off if we could have controlled our own monies years ago but then, you prefer our Scottish profits to go towards supporting England don't you?


25

Team Scotland,

Liberal Arts 10/10/2008 02:51:44
23 jenny

"a recent newspaper poll showed that the libdems were one of the parties in the two horse race!!"
---------------------------

It did indeeg under the heading

IN FIFE IT'S A TWO HORSE RACE FOR WESTMINSTER


You forgot to mention that it was a liberal newspaper, it is a two year old poll and that it was from Dunfermline West.

Only the Liberals
26

JoeMiddleton,

Edinburgh 10/10/2008 07:25:18
This is standard practice for the Lib Dems, no matter what the poll say, no matter what all the previous results indicate you can guarantee they will produce a dodgy leaflet saying they have a chance.

What happened in Glasgow East again with their candidate who the media seemed to love and where they believed they were in with a chance?

Lost his deposit.
27

Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 11/10/2008 01:42:55
22
A vote for the SNP is a vote for Scotland. Do you think the people of Glenrothes haven't noticed that Brown has been brown nosing(pardon the pun)the South of England all his time in power. He has also ignored and showed contempt for the Scottish Parliament and this inludes even his own party when they were the Executive

 

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