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Published Date:
13 March 2007
CITY MP Nigel Griffiths received overwhelming backing on the streets of his Edinburgh South constituency after his decision to quit his Government job over the replacement of the Trident nuclear deterrent.
The deputy leader of the Commons gave up his post yesterday, joining other Lothians MPs planning to vote against the renewal of the weapons system.

He had told his constituency party he would oppose any move to spend billions of pounds on the weapons, despite coming under heavy pressure from Gordon Brown to change his mind.

Now his stance has been supported by voters, with most of them opposing a replacement for Trident.

Many said they respected Mr Griffiths for following his conscience, and listening to local opinion.

But there were a few dissenting voices, and many reacted simply with: "Nigel who?"

Evander MacIver, 37, a catering manager from south Morningside, said: "I'm 100 per cent behind him. The city has people going hungry, and there are more important things to spend the money on. Britain doesn't need nuclear weapons. We should stop pretending we're more important than we are."

Mark Brown, 25, a student from Belhaven Terrace, said: "There's a lot to admire in him following his principles. There comes a point where your own personal beliefs are more important than following the party line. People voted for him because of his own beliefs."

Furzana Chaudhry, 42, a shop assistant, from Morningside, said: "I think it's to be admired. I'm totally opposed to nuclear weapons."

Jonathan Craig, a 19-year-old student from West Bryson Road, said: "It's good that a politician is finally listening to what the people are saying."

Roddy Burr, 47, a solicitor from Marchmont, said: "Anyone who sticks up for his beliefs is to be respected."

Terry Chaudhary, 20, a shop manager from Morningside, said: "I'm quite new to Edinburgh, so I don't know who he is. But I think it's a very good move. I'm opposed to Trident and I approve of him sticking up for his principles."

Receptionist Holly Moore, 22, from Morningside, said: "I think he did the right thing. Maybe it will make some of the other MPs think about it."

But although his anti-nuclear stance was widely welcomed, it appears Mr Griffiths might still have to worry about his recognition factor.

Despite hitting headlines yesterday, many of those in his constituency still did not know who their MP was.

Suzanne Murray, a 38-year-old full-time mum from Falcon Avenue, said: "I'm afraid I don't actually know who he is. I'm totally opposed to nuclear weapons, so I'd support what he's done." But some residents believed he should have toed the party line, saying a replacement for Trident was a necessary evil.

May Ferguson, 78, a pensioner from Morningside, said: "He's a member of the Government so I think he should have voted with them. We need nuclear weapons, although I don't really like them."

Mary Wilson, 63, a retired librarian from the Grange, agreed. She said: "I think a lot of people will be disappointed that he has done that. I don't like the idea of nuclear weapons, but other countries have them."

Mr Griffiths will be making a personal statement in the House of Commons tomorrow.

He said: "My view is very much that I took a decision based on a long-held belief. I'm very heartened there seems to be overwhelming support in my constituency, although I recognise that some have very different views. I'm sad to leave my job, but immensely proud of the achievements of the Government."

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  • Last Updated: 13 March 2007 1:27 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Nuclear defence
 
1

maestra,

13/03/2007 11:59:08

If only they all would...

2

Repton,

edinburgh 13/03/2007 12:36:20

Nice to see someone who sticks to his principals.Wish they all were like Nigel.

3

Mandy Battlements,

13/03/2007 12:41:03

A transparent political ploy to try to hold on to his slender majority. Nae chance, Nigel!

4

alex paterson,

embra 13/03/2007 13:11:47

People Warning,Trident is a must,Ask,Gordon Brown.

5

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13/03/2007 13:16:47
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6

Micjonger,

13/03/2007 13:27:08

Nigel Griffiths is a fraud.
He became a Labour MP on the strength of its policies - and on the strength of his constituents votes and views.
If he is now welching on these by putting his personal views before his Party's and his constituents, he should not only stand down, but resign from parliament.

7

Twos,

Edinburgh 13/03/2007 13:32:40

He got his foul mug on telly anyway - Now we ALL know what he looks like! (more's the pity)

8

John Knox for First Meenister,

High St, Embra 13/03/2007 13:33:18

Strutting little Panjandrum, so he is. He made the 10 o'clock news! A good afternoon's work - did you see his serious smirk? Boak. It's enough to make you support Trident's replacement.

9

Sally Fairweather,

13/03/2007 14:14:46

The "independent" deterent is a myth anyway. The Americans hold the keys to Trident, so we couldn't use it without their permission anyway. In other words, we're just paying to be a satellite of US foreign policy (aka state terrorism).

10

Rab McClair,

FRANCE 13/03/2007 15:35:11

Well done Nigel!!...We're wi' ye a' the way !!
...An' MY..whit a guid job ye did a' the while when the lobby wiz oan tae hae the PRESENT Trident system dismantled???.
Noo'....let me see if ah've goat this right..........Yir agin the new Trident, but in favour o' the auld wan !!
Hmmm..........so......Standard Strength Trident Mega-Death is OK.......but New Improved Super Strength Mega-Death is bad fur us !!
Och, ah see noo'..Thanks Nigel !!...Right,.... that's that soartit then........Ah'm awa' fur ma tablets
("Comin' Matron !! )

11

James England,

13/03/2007 16:54:13

All CND supporters who are better known as the British modern day Quislings will support Labour MPs like Griffiths who is an ardent CND activist. who tell us that Trident is evil. surely anybody with common sense knows that Trident wouldn't be a deterrent if it wasn't ----EVIL.

12

tomais,

southside 13/03/2007 16:56:39

and havent we all forgotten the rent for office scandal- morality?

13

Moray Stewart,

Edinburgh 13/03/2007 17:00:39

No, he stepped down (temporarily) for a few months in the hope of clinging to his constituency seat.

14

jambobones,

13/03/2007 17:51:18

has any one noticed the only people who seem to be backing trident and its replacement seem to be from the older range of the age scale??

15

Keren, It's time,

13/03/2007 18:45:23

Will he take down that silly life size cardboard cut out now? It doesn't seem to be working since hardly anyone knows who he is!!

16

Phil o Brian,

13/03/2007 18:50:27

Why is there always a bogey man that the establishment use to frighten us. It was the USSR and now its Iran/North Korea. Seems more like a way to control us and keep us in line ie don't question to deeply, we are doing this to save you from mega death. It would seem to me that the Iranians are worried about the USA and feel they have to be able to defend themselves. Remove this and hey presto, no need for Trident.

17

The Judge,

13/03/2007 19:17:16

and havent we all forgotten the rent for office scandal- morality?

Or how it managed to get planning permisson to change a shop into an office at the stroke of a pen. I said it yesterday, this is nothing to to do with morals or principals this is about 405 votes nothing else.

He knows that the people of South Edinburgh won't be bought or bribed by New Labour anymore & he is trying to save his seat at the next general election.

18

Faye,

13/03/2007 19:18:09

"spend billions of pounds on the weapons,"


But there is no money for the elderly, our state pensions, our NHS, the poor, but plenty of billions of pounds sitting ready for Trident!

Nu Labour:

for people,

or

for weapons of mass destruction?

19

ruralboy,

somewhere 13/03/2007 21:34:06

I'm sure it will not have escaped all you witty posters out there that "more4" (digital freeview) is currently (2100 gmt) showing 'The Widowmaker' - a Harrison Ford vehicle from a few years ago depicting the futility of stand-off Cold War strategy with a depiction of the fate of Russian nuclear submarine K-19...
now - is C4 on Tony's side, or is this another media conspiracy against an elected democracy? or just a very clever scheduler??
Discuss (2500 wds)

20

Doh,

13/03/2007 21:37:34

He must be a big disappointment to his friend Gordon Brown.

Still they both voted for the Iraq war, they should not be forgiven.

21

Julian,

13/03/2007 23:11:27

Sally # 9 what do you mean by "The Americans hold the keys to Trident"? I'm not disagreeing with you, just curious.

22

Joe M.,

Edinburgh 14/03/2007 00:25:32

I'm pretty sick of Labourites 'gaining a conscience' just before they get the order of the boot. If NG is against the position of this Government he should resign from the Labour party.

Labour always do this try and face two sides at once. if your local school is closed you can bet even if it's a labour party decision the local Labour councillor will claim they are against it.

Want rid of Trident for ever?

Vote for independence.

Think about it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eiov7o095E

23

Joe M.,

Edinburgh 14/03/2007 00:26:41

Julian,

Britain leases Trident from the US, also any decision on using it won't be made by the UK.

24

Bill, Dunblane,

14/03/2007 00:47:09

Fairly simple - he abstains on Wednesday, he's a total fraud. He votes against, he MAY be telling the truth.

Only hours to go. My bet is that he will abstain, therefore allowing the government to win.

C'mon Nige! Man or mouse?

25

Julian,

14/03/2007 01:06:54

Joe m # 22, sorry to correct you but NG is not about to get the boot. He has already resigned from the front bench and is not up for re-election for another 3 years so that can't be the reason for his decision.
It's just possible that all you cynics are wrong and that he is doing this because it is what he believes. I think i'm right in saying that he opposed Trident (correct me if i'm wrong).

On the subject of Trident that is an interesting point about leasing and authority of use. Surely the £50bn being spent on the next system won't be one leased from the Yanks.

26

Julian,

14/03/2007 01:08:59

Bill # 24, the government will win whether our Nige abstains or votes against; they have the support of the Tories. It would take half the labour party to rebel for the government to lose (which won't happen on a 3 line whip).

27

Jim King,

Edinburgh 14/03/2007 01:44:54

I remember Sally's statement (#9) quite well, been ongoing for as long as I remember

28

Name,

Location 14/03/2007 02:41:13

Better Nigel than the Lib Dem candidate they had last time Maralyin "Jackie Stalone" Maclaren. Dear god she was something! Still at least toilet brush heed Fred Mackintosh will give Labour a good run for their money next time out.

29

Julian,

14/03/2007 02:58:48

Jim # 27, You're being a bit cryptic for me.

30

Gordy,

Bath 14/03/2007 09:01:10

Is this ever-so-moral Nigel Griffiths, who's already been caught with his fingers in the till... http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=35&id=176942002

Why rotten politicians like this are allowed to continue is beyond me although, in Scotland these days, it seems to be the norm.

31

The-Doctor,

Edinburgh 14/03/2007 09:37:08

One has to wonder why Nigel's "conscience" has told him to resign over this issue when it did not (1) stop him from supporting Blair's invasion of Iraq and its bloody aftermath, (2) stop him from defrauding the taxpayer (http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=35&id=176942002) or (3) cause him to question the supply of arms to Israel, Saudi Arabia etc.

Don’t waste time writing to ask him about any of this. I wrote to him in December about BEA Systems/SFO/Saudi Arabia scandal – he replied saying he was “too busy” serving the government to give me a reply!

His newsletters tend to focus on him raising issues which are within the remit councillors or MSPs (bus schedules are his favourite).

He is a waste of taxpayer’s money!

The-Doctor (Former Labour Party member)


 

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