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Published Date: 09 July 2009
EXPANSION plans at Edinburgh Zoo have been thrown into doubt after an independent inquiry rejected proposals for a major housing development on Corstorphine Hill.
The zoo wanted to pay for a multi-million-pound redevelopment project by selling off about a sixth of its land.

But Scottish Government reporters decided the building of 120 homes on the western side of the site would have dramatically altered the
character of Corstorphine Hill, spoiling views of the beauty spot.

Local campaigners welcomed the news, but the decision raised fears over whether the zoo will be able to push ahead with a £72 million redevelopment scheme.

Only a fraction of the zoo land will be allowed to be sold, bringing in less than a quarter of the funds bosses had hoped to make.

The plans called for a string of tower blocks up to seven storeys high to be built, but now less than 20 homes are set to be approved.

Councillors staged a surprise U-turn over the proposals almost two years ago, when the city's planning committee threw out the sale plans, a move branded as a "kick in the guts" by zoo officials.

The Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, which runs the zoo, had been banking on the sell-off as the major source of funding for its long-term ambitions.

A number of features were to be bankrolled by £20m in funds from the sale, including a new entrance, four "biomes" replicating different environments and featuring new animals, research centres and modern, covered enclosures and wildlife trails.

But the Scottish Government reporters said that "the overall number of units and the extent of residential development proposed, particularly in the blocks of flats and the locations envisaged, would place the general character of the green belt and the landscape of Corstorphine Hill at risk".

They ruled that new housing should be limited to a small part of the zoo's western boundary, no more than two storeys high. It should be shielded by existing trees and ruled out any housing being created facing the main road.

Eddie Price, chairman of the Friends of Corstorphine Hill group, said: "We're delighted at this result, it's pretty much what we were looking for. We've nothing at all against the zoo, but the development they were proposing would have changed the whole nature of the area."

Local councillor Jeremy Balfour said: "We were in favour of some development being allowed to help the zoo raise funds, but not on the scale proposed."

The Royal Zoological Society of Scotland declined to comment, with a spokeswoman saying the organisation had only just received the report.

The findings are not binding on the city council, but the planning committee had backed the campaigners, against the advice of the local authority's own officials.

A council spokesman said: "We will put forward our proposals based on these recommendations to the council's planning committee later in the year."





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  • Last Updated: 09 July 2009 10:10 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Zoo
 
1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 09/07/2009 12:04:04
The zoo keepers should catch the loose monkeys first before thinking of any developements.
2

Sugar,

09/07/2009 12:27:54
And actually make use of the acres of depressing, empty space it already has. I for one hate the zoo and wish it would bog off to a non-residential area.
3

Mallory,

Edinburgh 09/07/2009 12:29:05
Quite right. They can always expand at the Highland Wildlife Park.
4

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 09/07/2009 12:30:29
This is pointing out the obvious I know, but once green land is built on, it is lost for ever.
5

Mince Pie Supper,

09/07/2009 12:31:08
Expand what, whenever I have went over the past 6 years the cages all look empty.

Bit like the shops in Edinburgh.
6

Foo,

09/07/2009 12:39:39
Edinburgh zoo is one of the few world class attractions Edinburgh has to offer.

Who are these people always against progress because of 'views'. What is their obsession with 'views'? Sod them, Edinburgh zoo should expand and be allowed to do what the hell it pleases.

The new chimp enclosure is outstanding.
7

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Tram City 09/07/2009 12:48:38
I am,more green space is what we want,not less.The zoo is big enough.Bunch of moneygrabbers.Note foo rhymes with zoo and *oo,nough said
8

Eric The Archer,

Edinburgh 09/07/2009 12:54:13
#6 Foo, I am not sure that locking up animals for the rest of their lives should be considered a world class attraction.
9

Foo,

09/07/2009 13:08:28
#7 - You're a NIMBY. Typical selfish attitude of the NIMBY.

#8 - Whilst not ideal, its the best chance a lot of animals have. Their habitat is destroyed so you can sit on cheap ikea furniture, then you complain they have to be kept in captivity!?
10

Sugar,

09/07/2009 13:15:12
Chuckle@ "world class". Balderdash. The only impressive thing about the zoo is its capacity to attract swarms of chavs and Mondeo Men en famille from across the Lothians the second the sun comes out.
11

Rap,

09/07/2009 13:19:07
#2 Sugar if you don't like the zoo just don't go. Leave to those people who do. and just avert your eyes when passing, easily done. Fact is it brings a lot of money into Edinburgh that we all benefit from.
12

Sugar,

09/07/2009 13:21:48
Yeh, that would be great if the oafish zoogoing public weren't clogging up traffic for 45 mins on the main road into Edinburgh every bank holiday.

It's a boring eyesore and anyone who thinks it is "world class" truly hasn't been beyond the perimeter of their Scheme.

It brings money to the Zoo. Nowhere else.
13

Incandescent,

09/07/2009 13:22:07
#6 and #9 Foo

Hmm. Noteable that your always one of the first to cry "NIMBY". I can't help but wonder if there has been any recent development, or if any id proposed, near your home. I suspect not.

Also, I pointed out to you some time ago that the edinburgh in-phrase "world class" doesn't actually mean anything. To apply it to Edinburgh Zoo merely compounds the absurdity of it.

14

Foo,

09/07/2009 13:22:16
10 Sugar

lulz, congratulations, you're a chump.

What exactly have you against families (or Men en famille as you put it) going to the zoo when we have fine weather?

I suspect you're nothing but a pinch faced old bunnet wearing finger wagger.

I also very much suspect you haven't been there recently, and as such, have not a clue what you are talking about.

15

Incandescent,

09/07/2009 13:24:39
#9 Foo

"Their habitat is destroyed so you can sit on cheap ikea furniture..."

Indeed. Until recently the spruce forests of scandinavia were absolutely teeming with tigers, elephants and giraffes. It's an absolute disgrace.
16

Incandescent,

09/07/2009 13:25:36
#13 "is" proposed
17

Foo,

09/07/2009 13:28:53
12

Well let's see. When I referred to it as world class I was comparing it to the few zoos around the world I've been to

Kobe
Melbourne
Singapore
London

Not many I admit. But I can assure you, Edinburgh zoo can hold its head held high against all of them (particularly Kobe).

But do please keep putting your views forward, it's highly amusing watching you attempt to paint the general public as oafs, without understanding that your own view comes across as detestable and snobbish, both gutter traits of the ill informed.
18

Sugar,

09/07/2009 13:29:22
I went there about a year ago (for free I might add). It was a depressing cesspit.
19

Foo,

09/07/2009 13:32:46
Incandescent!

How are you? I always enjoy your comments.

To answer your points:

I currently have a development to the rear of my Edinburgh apartment - no probs with me.

See #17 about Edinburgh v world zoos

Ikea was intended as a generic example, or course. I'm sure you're aware of the destruction of virgin rainforest in Indonesia for example, in order that palm oil production can be increased (so we can all drive cars with 'environmentally friendly' fuels.
20

Foo,

09/07/2009 13:37:29
Sugar

To label something as a 'cesspit', without a single reason, well, it just makes you look like a mouth breather.

No mention of:
* Animal education for children and adults
* Environmental awareness education
* Protection of endangered species
* Zoological study
* Benefits to Edinburgh's tourist trade

None of that mattered to you?
21

Rap,

09/07/2009 13:39:56
Sugar, I assume you'd apply the same dismissiver attitude to the two footie stadiums in the centre? neither are world class, limited attendance from the general public. We should get rid of them because they don't bring money to surrounding neighbourhoods? I think you should probably move out of the city altogether.
22

Jaco Pastorius,

Pyongyang 09/07/2009 13:40:08
Are these for "affordable" homes or "inaffordable" ones?
23

notsobornfree,

09/07/2009 13:52:15
Point 1 - the plans submitted by the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland (RZSS) with regards the 'sale of land' for residential purposes was infact due to reduce the land under ownership of the society not increase it

a large part of this so called 'greenbelt' land is currently in use by the Society and ALL of this land is not accessible by the general public as this is within the grounds of the current 82 acre zoo site

Point 2 - Three zoos in the UK last year spent a combined £17 million on new enclosures: Chester on the 'Realm of the Red Ape' for Orangutangs, London Zoo for 'Gorilla Kingdom' and Edinburgh Zoo for 'Budongo Trail'

Edinburgh has won several awards from conservation bodies for the work done at Budongo Trail for Education, Research and Animal Management, not too mention high praise from Jane Goodall on the excellent work done.

As with anything in life, from Eastenders to zoos to the music of Bruce Springsteen, if you dont like it then dont watch it, go to it or listen to it

snidy comments are worthless
24

Cod,

09/07/2009 14:02:31
The Zoo is full of animals.
25

Incandescent,

09/07/2009 14:04:48
#19 Foo

I'm glad you're not being put out by the development but, it's fair to say, loss of open green space is more traumatic the less urban the environs, e.g. a view of buildings changing to a view of a closer building is not directly comparable to a view of open fields/woods/grassland being replaced by one of houses/flats.

Understood. Ikea maybe wasn't the best example because, regardless of anyone's opinion of their their products, they're actually forward-thinking in terms of sustainable forestry. Biofuels are largely discredited, but Indonesia have always raced to slash and burn rainforest at the sound of a Dollar rustling, so only the output has changed.
26

Cod,

09/07/2009 14:09:42
EEN website is full of animals.
27

Telly,

09/07/2009 14:53:53
Edinburgh City Council can chip in some of the 72 million. It's a drop in the ocean compared to an overbudget tram. Edinburgh Zoo is one of the city's best assetts.
28

Jaco Pastorius,

Pyongyang 09/07/2009 15:28:18
Soup is full of animals.
29

BROONISDOOMED,

PITS OF HELL 09/07/2009 16:43:52
#25 and also mcdonalds were destroying rain forrests for packaging,so i dont buy there grilled dead animal burgers
how many places were destroyed in the 70s to feed wood to MFI and its like
the zoo had a really good aquarium but closed it down,it was invaluable to tropical fish keepers etc
i would love to see a world class aquarim or aquatic section
corstorphine hill on the davidson mains side,had loads of trees removed,but new ones were replanted in their place
what news on the pandas?,or is it gone and dusted that we are not to get a pair of pandas,as visitor volume would hit very high levels and bring a load of needed cash into the city
30

Foo,

09/07/2009 17:00:24
29

Edinburgh does have a world class aquarium, deep sea world. Not quite on the scale of Osaka with their whale shark, but still pretty darn good.
31

Incandescent,

09/07/2009 18:15:27
#29 If rainforest destruction is related to packaging, it's because it's cleared for much the same reasons as at #25, i.e. to grow softwood plantations to feed papermills.
32

Incandescent,

09/07/2009 18:23:13
#30 Foo

Deep Sea World is in Fife, but I'm sure I didn't have to point that out.

As for the much abused "world class" (not specifically in relation to DSW), it's just lazy English. How about "Internationally renowned/recognised", "world famous" or, simply, "excellent"?
33

Georgie Ed,

Edinburgh 09/07/2009 18:26:06
As far as I am aware the development plans never included 7 storey tower blocks.

The Zoo need funding to develop further and unless Government is going to provide that, like it does for the Botanis, it won't be able to afford to do so
34

animmo,

09/07/2009 19:04:13
When you lot actually get of your backsides and do something to help the animals that mankind has brought to the brink of extinction, THEN you might have a right to complain about the zoo. Until then and while they're doing more than most zoos in conservation, kindly shut up.
35

the Genuine Mario Antoinette,

09/07/2009 22:26:19
#17 - Foo, if the zoo is allowed to expand, it will be like your mouth, (all over the place & out of control)
36

the Genuine Mario Antoinette,

09/07/2009 22:31:47
#13 & #19 - Yes, I can confirm that there has been recent development at Foo's rear.
37

N 1986 23,

09/07/2009 23:42:32
has anybody seen my monkey?
38

david123,

Galsgow 11/07/2009 10:06:37
People really have no idea what they are talking about do they?

firstly people say edinburgh zoo is world class?
remeber edinburgh zoo is owned and run by the royal zoological society of scotland, they operate all over scotland and the world!,

they are key to many native wild life projects from wild cats to beavers, eagals here in scotland, so with out them scotland would be worse off, so not evening talk about they work aborad.

2ndly i am sure to think edinburgh zoo pulls in more vistors then any other place in scotland, so think of money they bring in.

they get next to nothing from goverment and doubt they get any lotto funding, so old County counicl a labour one tells zoo we want you to upgrade and be 2world class" but hell if we are going to pay for it, we got trams to build :P.

so zoo spends huge amounts of money to try and raise the money them selves, old CC pats them on the back and gives them go ahead,

Then New Lib dems come to power and turn over old cc plan, the needs of the many should out way the needs of the few "upperclass" who live near zoo, remeber zoo over 100 years old so sure was there long before houses,

what happens if zoo closes and moves say to galsgow taking with them new pandas etc? edinburgh be worse off and what you think they do with 82h site? hmmm
i bet you it be turned into houseing esatse before you could say escaped monkeys.

Edinburgh cc need to release what they have and enouage it to grow and improve and develope instead they keel to the few votters who dont want low affordable houseing buit in their area, btw any one elese notice the vote on this page 66% peeps in fav of zoo.. makes you think.

i can only hope cc can give the zoo the money it needs, as i think its the cc who real evil ones here no the zoo, they are just trying their best to do the best with what they got.

 

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