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Published Date:
04 July 2007
THE SNP Government is facing growing demands to revive plans to build a direct road link from Edinburgh Airport to the M8.
Business chiefs are leading calls for the half-mile link between the M8 and A8 after the SNP signalled it was determined to ditch plans for an airport rail link.

The airport has also commissioned a study into the idea.

The study was ordered by the airport's recently appointed managing director, David Johnston, who said he had seen "industrial estates with better access" than the airport.

Improving the single road access is seen as a high priority at the airport, with tailbacks a common problem at busy times.

Proposals for the link road were rejected by the Labour-Lib Dem coalition last year amid concerns it would lead to more traffic; it would cost too much; be visually intrusive; and would impact on the Ingliston park and ride site. Instead, officials opted for two new access roads from the A8.

However, consultations on local development plans have shown strong support for the M8 link.

Graham Birse, deputy chief executive of the Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce, said: "Airports develop economies, it is as simple as that.


"With trams, within budget, going ahead and Earl looking decidedly uncertain, now is exactly the right time to revisit the M8 link. It is clear that as the airport itself expands to meet demand then the infrastructure around the terminal must also grow.

"The cost of this link, which is only around half-a-mile of road, would be a fraction of the cost of the rail project."

Mr Johnston said: "To be frank I was just staggered when I first came to the airport and saw the situation with the approach road.

"There are industrial estates with better access. It is our view the M8 extension is vital for improving transport links to the airport.

"Public transport improvements are important to the airport but against the backdrop of phenomenal growth we are experiencing they will not be enough.

"The roads serving the airport are not fit for purpose and incidents such as the security changes introduced at the weekend illustrated the need to make improvements."

It is thought any new road, which has still to be priced, would go between the Claylands and Hermiston junctions on the M8 north to the A8 somewhere between the airport and the RBS headquarters at Gogarburn.

The airport's study is likely to be ready by the autumn and will be passed to the Scottish Executive.

The current plans, announced in November last year, would see a new eastern access road built to the airport from the Gogar Roundabout and a western access route from the A8 in the vicinity of Hallyards Road.

Today, the RAC backed the idea of the M8 link, but Edinburgh West MSP Margaret Smith raised concerns that the new road will simply encourage more traffic.

Sheila Rainger, campaign manager for the RAC Foundation, said: "The A8 in front of the airport is not a suitable road for access and it is not coping with the growing demands on it. With a big question mark over the rail link, which was meant to relieve congestion on the approaches to the airport, then alternatives do need to be considered.

"The link road appears to be a sensible solution given the close proximity of the airport to the motorway network."

However, Margaret Smith said: "There is already plans for new access roads into the airport from the A8. A spur to the M8 would simply encourage road traffic to the airport, which was part of the reason why the tram and rail schemes are such an attractive alternative. It is crucial we get the public transport alternatives to driving in place."

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  • Last Updated: 04 July 2007 11:07 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scotland's airports
 
1

DunsJambo,

04/07/2007 11:20:27

Would it take off?

2

SMcMurray,

Edinburgh 04/07/2007 11:22:40

Much better to spend the money on improved rail access to the airport. Consideration should be given to (a) rail stop(s) at the airport which encompasses the east coast mainline and glasgow/edinburgh line at less cost than EARL anticipated.

3

Callum,

Edinburgh 04/07/2007 11:25:10

We need a rail link to the airport and yes better roads to.

4

Kevin,

04/07/2007 11:33:49

Go to any major airport in Europe and all of them have rail links, making travelling a hell of alot easier...building a new road will just increase the volume of traffic in surrounding areas. EARL may be expensive but it will be worth it in the long run (although I conceed its probably dead in the water now).

5

Confused Teenager,

04/07/2007 11:34:51

Why would I want a link for my M8 to the airport.
He never goes there.

6

shuggee,

04/07/2007 11:45:08

M74 extension - put through on the nod

Borders Rail line - held up

Edinburgh Trams - held up the beggrudgingly allowed to progress

EARL - to be abandoned

A9 dualling to Inverness - idea floated

Then out of nowhere another road building scheme floated coming right out of left field.

This road lobby friendly and anti-public transport SNP Government obviously learnt about trasnport planning in a 1960s Polytechnic. Yes - let's repeat the mistakes of the past. Great.

Greens - where are you?!

7

Dante,

Inferno 04/07/2007 11:45:47

Er.... just a thought but what the hells the point in linking the M8 onto the A8? shurely that wouldn't make any difference at all????
one look at the map tells you it would be much easier to link it directly to the roundabout/ underpass that already exists (a wee bit more to the left on the map).
I know it cuts through the golf course but Ingleston show ground got booted for much the same reason.......

8

mv,

04/07/2007 11:51:28

"Mr Johnston said: "To be frank I was just staggered when I first came to the airport and saw the situation with the approach road. ...
"There are industrial estates with better access...."

Welcome to the wonderful world of Edinbugh's transport system....Yes we need links, trams, railways, new roads, bridges...But not years of debate, there are new Cities going up in the rest of the world in the time it takes Scotland to decide which way to jump!

Anything to fix the gogar/herimston car park (sorry modern road junction into a major european city) please.....

9

AlbaHibs,

04/07/2007 11:55:14

there already is a link to the M8

from the airport it runs up past the the hilton Hotel, up the slip road past the garage & onto the Newbridge roundabout where you can follow the sign posts

10

Charles MN,

04/07/2007 11:56:02

As the M8 currently grinds to a halt due to lack of capacity I don't see how adding more traffic to it will improve things. There are significant problems on the A8 and M8 that need to be tackled before this investment makes sense.

11

Rod,

Edinburgh 04/07/2007 12:06:31

In the 2003 - 2006 period, BAA's own passenger data shows numbers at Edinburgh International Airport rising by 1.131 million. This is an extra monthly average of 94,275 passengers / 3100 average per day compared to 2003 levels.
Edinburgh International Airport has one of the highest percentage of passengers in the UK accessing by public transport.
The SNP welcomed EARL when MacAskill was transport spokesman. Now MacAskill is mysteriously against the very proposals he welcomed. He thought a guided busway proposed by ex Cllr Begg one of the 'daftest' ideas he had ever heard. Now he is in favour of a ...guided busway. I expect MacAskill will soon be advocating dug-out canoes on the Almond as a means of accessing the fastest growing airport in central Scotland.

12

Danny Mather,

04/07/2007 12:16:43

#10 do you have anything to say on this story, or are you just another party political drone?

It sounds to me as if the November 06 plans would accomplish better access to the airport than this plan, which does nothing to address the main problem - the single lane approach road.

13

Fair play,

Edinburhj 04/07/2007 12:19:06

All this shows that it is essential that we remove the Sentimental Nonsense Party and substitute real politicians for government. In their few weeks of fun playing at being a government, the SNP has about turned and turned back again so many times it leaves me feeling dizzy.

14

Steve S,

Ed'Burgh 04/07/2007 12:39:51

The plans agreed in late 2006 allow proper access to tha airport from East and West. The link direct from the M8 just duplicates the agreed propsal with no benefits, but adds ncreased traffic to this section of the M8. That is why it was rejected late last year.

15

Chris.J,

Edinburgh 04/07/2007 12:52:56

What??? The airport already has a road link. Its called the A8. And no, it doesn't get that busy actually. And on the rare occasions when it is busy, it isn't a patch on the tailbacks that you get on the stretch of the M8 where this hair-brained idea would have the road link to.
The airport already has two main line railways within spitting distance. Why not just open a couple of stations on the current line and lay on a transfer bus?
Why are the Labour losers so desperate waste piles of taxpayers cash on airport links? Shouldn't the money be going into improving conventional railways? Here's a few ideas that could use the cash better: Get Glasgow trains to stop at Edinburgh Park, reopen the South Suburban line to passenger traffic and if you're really desperate for an airport rail link, simply open stations on the existing tracks and emply a couple of shuttle buses to transfer passengers.
But the really big question is why this paper remains committed to second-rate journalism (no hint of analysis or counter-arguments here), nat-bashing and advocating the wasting of billions of Scottish taxpayers cash? The labour establishment lost: Get over it.

16

Danny Mather,

04/07/2007 13:03:42

#14. Post #10 stated that the airport is getting busier (which is hardly news) before going off to score petty political points. It didn't address any aspect of any access proposals. I note that your post has not done so either; perhaps you could let us know whether you support either set of proposals?

And, no I'm not affiliated to any political party.

17

Name,

04/07/2007 13:18:17

Why they can't have a railway spur on the main fife line to a station and then have moving walkway's or a bus to pick up passengers to the terminal building.

Surely this is a viable option?

18

The Honest Lad,

04/07/2007 13:30:47

#9 Charles

And guess what may help that problem?

EARL

The SNP Goverment need some vision

19

no more roads,

edinburgh 04/07/2007 14:02:26

A new M8 link would encourage even more car journeys and worsen traffic congestion. The correct answer is PUBLIC TRANSPORT but not a new railway; we need to discourage air travel as it is extremely damaging to our world. So more buses and more restrictions on private motor vehicles please Mr Salmond (if you ever want to get a working majority.)

20

portyboy,

04/07/2007 14:16:13

#15 Where have you been living? - the A8 is a nightmare especially at Maybury/Gogar as is the approach road to the airport from it - ask anyone who works at the airport. Any event at Ingliston makes it even worse
However I agree with you and #17 though - two railway stations on spurs adjacent to the main lines to Fife and Glasgow - or the Bathgate line for that matter with a dedicated bus/tram/walkway link from them to the Airport.

21

Charles MN,

04/07/2007 14:26:47

#18 EARL has exactly the same problems as this in that the railway network it connects to is at saturation much of the day. There is no space for more trains, the trains will be full by the time they get to the airport so where are air passengers with baggage going to go?

Any solution that doesn't add capacity is just moving a problem around.

22

Cramondo,

04/07/2007 14:41:07

THis in a week where we are being encouraged to get to the airport by public transport. Good though the airport buses are, they could not cope if every air passenger got on.

Rail link is best solution.

Actually, a high speed rail network in UK would reduce the need to use planes, but there seems to be no chance of that in my life time.

23

portyboy,

04/07/2007 14:43:31

Lengthen the trains - especially on the Fife line - surely they can run trains with more than 2 - 3 coaches

24

Danny Mather,

04/07/2007 14:44:50

I wonder whether a link from the north, either from the (upgraded) A8000 or the A90, would be of more use in easing congestion.

And another point for #14 - who exactly are the opponents of the schemes outlined in the article that #10 is "slating"? The only voice against this plan in the article is from a Lib Dem MSP. I don't see any comment from the Exec, the SNP or any other party.

25

dyb,

04/07/2007 16:27:32

if they are going to move this, will they put a new junction on this link road to allow access to the Royal highland Centre when it s forced to move soon?

26

Toast,

04/07/2007 16:45:26

What a waste of money even thinking about it,there is nothing wrong with the existing links,we should be encouraging people not to fly,if it is going to happen let BAA pay for it,they're the ones making the huge profits ripping passengers off.

27

Melanthios,

Stirling 04/07/2007 16:57:34

Couldn't they just move the airport nearer the roads?

28

Melanthios,

Stirling 04/07/2007 16:59:36

OK...You take your car to the airport and spend a fortune parking the damn thing for a fortnight. It's probably cheaper to get a taxi. It also means that you can get p¡shed on the plane on the return journey.............if you so wish.

29

Mastermined,

Glasgow 04/07/2007 17:35:50

The obvious solution to this problem is to build a Tram line from Glasgow to Edinburgh Airport !

30

Melanthios,

Stirling 04/07/2007 18:17:49

#30. Mastermined, Glasgow / 6:35pm 4 Jul 2007
"The obvious solution to this problem is to build a Tram line from Glasgow to Edinburgh Airport !"


...or have a HUMUNGOUS runway going all the way from Edinburgh to Glasgow. Close it at midnight and hey presto.....Instant new motorway.

31

Damian,

Edinburgh 04/07/2007 18:58:54

Just when there have been major discussions, debates and arguments about what type of public transport option(s) should be provided to serve the airport, these business chiefs want a major road connection, which will undermine the benefits of improved public transport.

In other words, the chiefs want the public to use the bus, tram and train, as long as a good road connection is provided for them to whizz along!

32

Micropacer,

04/07/2007 22:05:08

Whats the obsession with Airports?

Is it not about time we faced up to the fact that air travel will at some point in the not to distant future be hit massively over its pollution?

All this cheap Flying will then end and our Airports will run way under capacity - if were building a transportation system for the future dont bother with Airports.

33

Liam,

05/07/2007 07:10:01

#34, perhaps we should ask "why the obsession with making air travel the sole scapegoat for pollution?". Air travel only contributes something like 1% of global pollution, whereas the private motorist in his lovely car is accountable for a great deal more. But apparently we aren't allowed to tell the private motorist that he must change his expectations/lifestyle too - you just don't go there, it seems.

This is my big problem with the Green Party. They're only too keen to jump on the bandwagon and attack people who fly (because it's not really directily attacking us) but they simply won't be honest with private motorists about what needs to be done there. Air and road travel won't disappear as the Greens seem to wish, so they should be backing measures to ease the environmental burden of air travel and the good old airport transfer. EARL just became utterly essential last weekend with the new terrorist threat.

34

Miss Jean Brodie,

05/07/2007 08:15:33

This is a comedy - ha ha ha ha !

35

Arrow,

edinburgh 05/07/2007 14:29:32

would it not be cheaper to relocate the airport to a large island in the Forth with a tunnel popping up in the middle for the train and a slip road off the road bridge for the Tram and tidal power generators to light it all up for the tourists? sounds so far fetched it might get a grant to research the possibilty; then again......
back to bed said Zebedee!!!


 

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