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Published Date: 29 August 2008
THE biggest housing development in the Capital has been reduced in size by 700 homes – to protect the flight path of a colony of terns.
Forth Ports wanted to create around 16,000 homes as part of its massive regeneration of the Leith Docks area.

It has now emerged that the company agreed to slash the number of units after concerns from Scotland's nature watchdog that a colony of 1000 pairs of breeding terns could be harmed.

The outline planning application was passed by the city council's planning committee earlier this week. Forth Ports agreed to change its application after a scientific study was convened following discussions about the problem with Scottish Natural Heritage (SNH).

Some buildings will now not be as tall as was initially planned, with most between the colony and the sea being reduced from six storeys to three, while others will not be built at all.

Charles Hammond, chief executive of Edinburgh-based Forth Ports, said: "I think, to be fair to Scottish Natural Heritage, they convened a scientific panel that looked at flight paths. They were keen to establish an exclusion zone and the aim was to provide a workable solution.

"Unfortunately, it has resulted in a decrease in unit numbers but it has allowed the development to go through and we will still be able to create 15,000 homes for the city."

SNH had initially objected to Forth's outline planning application on the basis of fears for the birds, part of the UK's biggest tern colony, on the Imperial Dock.

After it struck the agreement with Forth Ports the body retracted its objections to the scheme.

Part of the agreement saw new walkways and bridges relocated and a new cultural centre moved away from the colony. But it has only now emerged that the negotiations will see the total number of homes reduced significantly.

Ron Hewitt, chief executive of Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce, which has said the development is essential to the Capital's future prosperity, said: "I suspect that, because of the scale of the project, Forth Ports will try to be as accommodating to objectors as is possible.

"But we have a huge shortage of homes, particularly affordable homes, in Edinburgh and we cannot afford to reduce them."

Iain Rennick, SNH area manager for Forth and Borders, said: "As the site includes two Special Protection Areas, protected by European law, it was important to get this right.

"The project will now move forward to more detailed consideration of the various phases of the development. We are hopeful that we can continue to work closely with Forth Ports and the council."


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  • Last Updated: 29 August 2008 3:28 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Forth Ports
 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:00:03
Well done,at last somebody is thinking of our feathered friends.
2

RJ,

29/08/2008 12:03:20
And 95% of the houses get to be built. Sounds like a reasonable result to me.
3

Jamiem,

29/08/2008 12:12:18
Plus Forth Ports might not be that fussed about the loss of a few houses if units aren't currently selling thanks to difficulties in the financial markets.
4

Arrow,

edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:14:23
i take it that the birds are unable to fly to another location? SNH and the like are a greater menace than the hoodie crow and the seagulls combined. what! the lesser spotted tree birler is is in danger stop the work. of course the badgers and other beasts in the road of the tram along Roseburn Corridor have to go for the greater good!!! what a load of mince.
5

Mallory,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:17:01
One good tern does another.. how about ecouraging them to Caltongate and Haymarket
6

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgfh 29/08/2008 12:25:34
This development will undoubtedly be so 'classy' that outside drying greens won't have been permitted. Probably just as well considering the tons of excreta which will descend from the skies.

I wonder what Buttress and the 'conservationists' will have to say about this?

7

Bob 2,

29/08/2008 12:38:16
6 Peter - very disappointed/concerned,Edinburgfh 29/08/2008 12:25:34

This development will undoubtedly be so 'classy' that outside drying greens won't have been permitted.

Well with 2000 seagulls droppings coming from a High, it might not be advisable to put your clothes out to dry!!!
8

Mike Hunt,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:45:28
#3 - you're right, blame the terns, nothing to do with it being likely they won't be able to shift those 700 houses.
9

Buttress,

29/08/2008 12:48:40
Why is this development essential to the City's future prosperity?

Surely the City has got along just fine without it?

10

Down with everything,

29/08/2008 12:59:48

just think of these poor birds who would have flown straight into the new buildings (as opposed to flying over or around them)

complete and utter tosh!!

11

valleyjim,

29/08/2008 13:00:59
Is this another u-tern
12

Think Tank,

29/08/2008 13:11:51
And there in two lines sums up why people like you Buttress should have absolutely no involvement in the future of Edinburgh.

It's the same with the anti-tram brigade

"we're getting on fine with the buses"
"we don't need any more jobs or people, and certainly don't need new homes".
"we have plenty of hotel spaces"

So what happens as the city grows- should we not be planning housing, transport NOW rather than being reactive when the streets are clogged and investment is lost to our neighbouring cities who have a little foresight?

"but, but...Edinburgh isn't seeing an increase in population..." (so they lie).

13

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

29/08/2008 13:34:45
Damn terns. Coming here and taking all our housing.
14

D Heid ,

29/08/2008 14:49:04
I dont think it will ruin any plans, its kinda great they have taken the birds into such consideration. not that i am a " naturist" personally i cant stand either pigeons or seagulls as they are a waster of space and a nusance. At least they havent just gone and done what the hell they like regardless!
15

Buttress,

29/08/2008 14:56:54
And hear we have Think Tank and his mad obsession with me again!

Sya hello to the budgie - cheep cheep - or should that be cheap cheap?

Jings - all these new people, eh? Is there a breeding programme going on in Scotland, or is there some new ban on contraception?

Anyhoo Septic - maybe you should be going off and increasing the population.

Have a nice day now!

:-)





16

Buttress,

29/08/2008 15:13:20
14 - isn't a 'naturist' someone who likes to go around unclothed?

Bit cold in Scotland and the midges can be a problem, but maybe all this nudity is what is inflaming passions and helping the increase in population then?
17

Rap,

29/08/2008 15:34:25
You know, I'm sure I've seen terns nesting in the Morrison St. car park. I'll just go and take a photo.....
18

Statsman,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 15:39:37
12 Think Tank

Your logic is completely flawed. Improving transport links around the whole of Scotland would remove a great deal of pressure from Edinburgh. £600m from the trams would have been used on the A9.

That would have saved lives and helped spread jobs across Scotland. The last thing we need is the Londonisation of Edinburgh with little or no investment in the rest of the country. Doing so simply concentrates everything in one place to the point where only the very rich can live there. This, in turn, puts basic public services at risk.
19

Niko Bellic,

Marchmont Margiottas (booze section) 29/08/2008 17:32:43

This is a "tern for the worse". I mean, residential developments made out of breezeblocks and sold as "Luxury Flats" for £200k are a rarity in Edinburgh aren't they.

I hope somebody shoots these aerial varmints right outta the sky.

We want pi5hy luxury flats! When do we want 'em! Now!
20

valleyjim,

29/08/2008 18:57:18
tern, tern again. BobDylan.
21

DaveA1875,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 20:42:34
Why couldn't it have been "Port home kills off 700 terns"
There's an article on page 5 of the "City Final" about how "Thieves make off with £400 in Capital raid". Can't find this on line. We got burgalled for one hell of a lot more than that. Why is the EEN filling up space with this type of article and others which can be seen throughout the paper that have no substance/ no human touch!
22

Peter Edwards,

Stoke upon Trent 29/08/2008 22:10:31
Thought "TERNS" were "Birdies".

I could be wrong, but are they not capable of flying high as well as ducking and diving?

Seems to me we English haven't got all the "Idiots" after all.

No, before you ask, you can keep your idiots.
23

Think Tank,

29/08/2008 22:42:09
#18

But your argument is proved wrong by basic population studies.

The population of Edinburgh City is rapidly expanding. That's a simple fact.

People won't move to "commuter areas" around south east scotland simply because they're told the city's full. And to improve the transport links to the extent required to make it viable would cost tens of billions of pounds, not the £500m the initial tram scheme will cost.

And as another point of fact, it's actually far easier to deliver public services with a concentrated population. It becomes much, much harder when you start spreading everyone around the place- schools, hospitals, dentists, libraries, post offices- all far easier with a centralised population.
24

Buttress,

30/08/2008 09:42:44
How about backing up your assertions with genuine figures then Septic?
25

Toast,

30/08/2008 12:05:02
Hardly relivent as the entire project has been mothballed indefinitely but to the credit situation
26

Buttress,

30/08/2008 12:10:12
Let's hope that happens with a few more - Caltongate...
27

Buttress,

30/08/2008 15:56:52
But hey - someone's getting excited:

"Construction jobs are set to begin on a new 15,000 home development on Edinburgh's waterfront after the city's council gave the regeneration scheme the go-ahead, it has been revealed.

Forth Ports' proposals for Leith Docks mark the outset of the largest such project in the history of the city and would involve the conversion of 58 hectares of brownfield land, reports Building magazine.

Nine new villages are set to be interconnected as part of the scheme, with viewing corridors planned to allow clear sightlines to Edinburgh Castle and Arthur's Seat and 35 hectares of open and civic space, walkways and 3km of coastal boardwalk also proposed.

Nathan Ward, associate urban designer at architects RMJM, told the publication he is "delighted" planning permission has been received and hinted construction jobs could become available as a result.... "



Wow! Hinted that construction jobs could be available??



http://www.thecareerengineer.com/engineering-news/926/Planning_permission_given_for_Edinburgh_construction_jobs.html


 

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