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Protesters take Forth Bridge fight to UN over health fears

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Published Date: 24 February 2009
RESIDENTS living in the shadow of the planned new Forth crossing are preparing to take the fight to the United Nations, saying the heavy traffic could endanger the health of local communities.
The Scottish Government has re-routed the approach to the bridge to save an estimated £2 billion. Instead of going through farmland, the new dual carriageway will be within 100 metres of numerous homes.

Protesters say the new route could threaten the health of around 8000 people, as the pollution could increase the risk of cancer, asthma and other diseases.

Around 150 residents and community groups have registered objections with Transport Scotland, whose consultation officially closed yesterday.

An action group is also preparing a formal complaint about the health risk to the UN. They will appeal under the Aarhus Convention, which governs access to justice on environmental matters.

David Gargley, a shop manager who lives in Linn Mill, close to the approach to the bridge, said:

"My house is going to be just 110 metres from the proposed road to the bridge. But every resident in South Queensferry will be affected by the new infrastructure."

The original route had taken traffic straight across fields to join the M9. But now the road will curve around South Queensferry, joining the Scotstoun junction at the end of the new M9 spur. It will halve the estimated project cost.

David Steel, a Queensferry community councillor who lives near the planned approach road, said: "It's going to have a major impact on this area. There are a lot of houses that back on to it, and the effect is going to be massive."

John Carson, a retired civil engineer and founder of the Forth Tunnel Action Group, is preparing the complaint to the UN Economic Commission for Europe.

He said studies had shown that pollution from heavy traffic can damage the health of people living up to a kilometre away. He added: "The atmosphere can contain 5000 times the number of pollutants than normal. These increase the risk of asthma and cancer twofold."

A spokeswoman for Transport Scotland said it would be analysing the effect of noise and pollution during the next stage of planning.

She added: "The new bridge together with the dedicated public transport corridor on the existing bridge will ensure the capacity to deal with the predicted future demand for cross-Forth travel."


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1

Man of Reason,

24/02/2009 11:54:28
NIMBYs
2

allknowing,

24/02/2009 11:57:58
100meters, plenty far enough. Juswt drive down the M25 if you want to see how close homes are to the road!!!

As above, NIMBY.
3

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 24/02/2009 12:06:55
They may moan but,bet your boots they will be first to use the system.
4

JamboMowg,

24/02/2009 12:34:12
Yet again, gimpy comments above.

A tunnel would be the answer but no doubt the council/government are having their pockets lined by dodgy bridge builders. Cheaper is not often better, just look at the tram fiasco
5

Edinburgh 100,

Musselburgh 24/02/2009 12:57:30
MMMM the next meeting of the UN North Korea, Irag, Iran Afghanistan, Dafur, Chechnya, East Timor etc etc etc. Or a bridge which could be built in Scotland mmmmmm I wonder where the priorities lay.
6

Numptie,

The Ferry 24/02/2009 13:05:48
The Bridge (or the works for the tunnel) were always going to go through the spare land next to Linn Mill, if you bought a house in Linn Mill and didn't know this then sue your estate agent. The new link road bends towards the A90 and then joins the new M9 link, I doubt it is more than a few hundred yards closer to S Queensferry than a straight link to the M9 would have been.
7

Dragonlord,

24/02/2009 14:02:52
At, clutching, straws Rearange into a well known saying. These people are so sad they need help.
8

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/02/2009 14:24:10
Did the fact that they moved to a town called South Quesnsferry, with all thae big bridges, not give them a clue that something like this might happen?

Still, no doubt a couple of them will get a trip to New York out of it, which will be fitting payback for going to all those meetings trying to keep a straight face.
9

D Napier,

24/02/2009 14:29:35
This is nimbyism of the highest order and John Carson is a hypocrit.

What about all the schemes he built as a Director of Miller Civil Engineering that were close to people's homes? I bet he didn't complain about them when they were earning him money.

Can he not accept that he lost the battle for a tunnel and leave it at that.

There are houses at North Queensferry which are far closer to the existing bridge than those at Linn Mill will be to the new bridge.

Considering that the approach to the existing bridge is flanked by houses on both sides I would have thought that the approach to the new bridge, actually being outwith the existing boundary of South Queensferry, would improve the health of the residents.
10

Hoof Hearted,

24/02/2009 15:17:02
Not a tram story.

No-one's interested.

All just wannabe Fifers anyway neebs.
11

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/02/2009 15:28:28
Of course it`s nothing to do with the devaluation of your property matey.The new bridge is needed now.
12

FreddieIII,

24/02/2009 16:08:35
"He said studies had shown that pollution from heavy traffic can damage the health of people living up to a kilometre away. He added: "The atmosphere can contain 5000 times the number of pollutants than normal. These increase the risk of asthma and cancer twofold.""

Really, and how comparable is a windy, very open Firth of Forth to that study?
13

Cauld Lad Hylton,

24/02/2009 17:10:02
Just love the comments from the 'spokeswoman' they made the same kind of comments in 1961 and look what has happened.

By the way still time to rever to a tunnel!!!!
14

STAYonFORTH,

Fife 24/02/2009 23:21:28
You have to laugh really, it keeps him out of trouble. D Napier #9 hits the nail on the head. The new bridge will move traffic away from the centre of South Queensferry so will probably improve the environment. Mr Carson's concern seems to be about the new road alignment to the south of Queensferry but it is 100m away in open countryside. I would question if it would result in increased levels of contaminants compared to the existing road provision. As he did last year, he uses selective information to scaremonger. Maybe heavy traffic can damage health up to 1km away but I bet its not in surroundings like this. Where was his concern for pollutants when he was pushing for a tunnel which would have high levels of contaminants concentrated at the tunnel portals and drifting over Rosyth and Camdean??? A bridge and open road at least allow for any pollutants to be dispersed more readily.
15

Yankee girl,

California 25/02/2009 07:17:14
So, NIMBY is an international term, eh? ;)

Interesting approach, going to the UN if you don't like a project. Here in the US, those who want to kill a project usually find some excuse to bring a lawsuit via the environmental process.
16

Incandescent,

25/02/2009 14:37:57
#9 D. Napier - you are an obvious PR plant who only posts on bridge-related articles. Give it a rest.

#15 SoF - The new proposed approach road will, in fact, partly encircle the western part of SQ with a raised embankment, which will exacerbate environmental problems.
17

Incandescent,

25/02/2009 14:40:25
http://www.americanbridge.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=72
18

Man of Reason,

25/02/2009 16:37:19
#18/19 Incandescent - what's with the advertising for American Bridge - have you got shares in them or something?
19

STAYonFORTH,

25/02/2009 20:16:50
#17. From a simplistic point of view moving a congested road with a significant risk of slow moving traffic from the running through the centre of S Queensferry to a faster flowing road (with hard shoulders)around the periphery, 100m away across open countryside has to be a net improvement to the enviroment.

Also its a bit steep for you to ask #9 to give it a rest when you continually post links to the American Bridge website, I think most bridge related posts you stick this in. pots and kettles spring to mind. All opinions and debate should be welcomed. :0)
20

Build me a tunnel,

06/03/2009 11:11:21
To all those who have posted negatively on this story - your all planks. You'd be up in arms and the first to raise objections if you were living close to the proposed crossing - nupmties the lot of you.
21

D Williams,

19/03/2009 13:29:48
#9 D Napier "Considering that the approach to the existing bridge is flanked by houses on both sides I would have thought that the approach to the new bridge, actually being outwith the existing boundary of South Queensferry, would improve the health of the residents.

Considering the proposed new crossing will mean my house will be flanked by two bridges I would have thought this would NOT improve my health.

D Napier - your a plank and I actually know the street where you live. Get back to Dunfermline you tw#t and comment on issues that are in your own back yard and not those in others.
22

Yankee girl,

California 28/03/2009 05:22:38
#18 Incandescent, why the interest in American Bridge? As a bridge engineer myself, I've had the opportunity to see their work first hand here is California. While I have the utmost respect for their company, they're not the largest bridge construction firm around.

Speaking strictly from an engineer's standpoint, it would seem that StayonForth and DNapier have valid points about the new approach alignment improving the air quality.

 

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