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Published Date: 28 July 2008
IT has operated quietly for more than 30 years without incident.
But one of the city's oldest saunas has come under fire from nearby residents after deciding to advertise its services more publicly.

The Comely Bank establishment put up the sign two weeks ago to help new customers find the anonymous building in
the street.

But residents who previously tolerated the business when it operated discreetly are now up in arms over the advertisement.

Local councillor Lesley Hinds has asked the city council to investigate whether the owner had planning permission for the sign after she received a number of complaints.

Some neighbours in the area are concerned that children will spot the sign and ask embarrassing questions of their parents.

Other residents fear a decline in house prices if the presence of the sauna becomes widely known.

Today, the owner hit back at the criticism and said his business had been operating in Comely Bank Place for more than 30 years without complaint.

One resident, who asked not to be named, said: "This is a district full of children, with a primary school and a secondary within a few minutes walk and it seems a most unsuitable siting for such a business, especially when it is made so obvious.

"It's a breach of common decency and disturbing for both children and parents.

"With such a deep doorway a small nameplate could be discreetly placed.

"The business is very unlikely to get passing trade anyway and, in fact, its present "in-your-face" appearance would probably put a potential client off." Cllr Hinds said other residents had registered concerns that the advertising may harm house prices in the area.

She said: "Previously the sauna did not advertise itself in the street. The area is quite affluent and this sign stands out.

"I've asked the council's planning department to check whether it breaks any planning rules.

"Residents are unhappy that children may see the sign and that could lead to embarrassing questions to their parents about what the 'Gentleman's Club' is.

"Next time they have their licence up before the council, residents who previously did not lodge any complaints against it might change their minds."

The Capital currently has around 13 saunas operating under licence from the city council.

A spokesman for the Gentleman's Club said he was shocked that his neighbours could be unhappy about the advert.

He said: "I can't understand what the problem is. This was the first licensed sauna in Edinburgh and we've never had complaints from the police or any residents.

"Everyone in the area knows we are here. These must be new people complaining.

"The sign was put up because people were having trouble finding where we were.

"We've put up signs before. There is nothing wrong with me putting a sign in my own window which simply says 'Gentleman's Club' and our phone number. It doesn't say what it is."

The sauna has previously had names including the Raeburn and the Mayfair over the years.





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  • Last Updated: 28 July 2008 10:51 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh's sex industry
 
1

Rv2!,

28/07/2008 13:33:55
I've never used any place like this, and probably never will, but let's get real here.

If the locals consider that anything illegal is going on inside the premises then they should allow the authorities to do their job.

If they have no evidence of anything illegal, then they should just shut up and accept it. Maybe having this next to you isn't desireable, but if they are doing nothing wrong (including planning issues) then sod off.

YOU feel it is below you and inappropriate, that's YOUR problem. Can you actually state what is wrong with a sauna? A massage? Nothing.

If this place is selling prostitution, and that can be found to be a fact, then close the place down, put the owners AND prostitutes in prison. Any in the country on Visas, remove from the country at the end of their sentence.

2

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 28/07/2008 13:57:45

It's not embarrassing if kids ask questions if the parent has a bit of ingenuity.

Wee Burberry "Dad what's a gentlemans club"

Dad "Well, Burberry, it's a club for gentleman"

3

Embra boy,

Edinburgh 28/07/2008 13:58:08
#1 Quite right, but I think you're wasting your time suggesting that the authorities deal with this.

I suggest that you take matters into your own hands (so to speak), visit the premises, and give us your no holds barred feedback.

I await your findings with interest!
4

Daft Old Git,

28/07/2008 13:58:32
#1 There's no mention in the article of filthy deeds going on. Clearly the concern is the global warming that these places cause
5

Embra boy,

Edinburgh 28/07/2008 14:00:02
#2 I recently walked past Hooters "show bar" on Lauriston Place with my young daughter who observed, "Hooters, I expect that's something to do with owls".. Bless..

6

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 28/07/2008 14:13:20
Anyone remember the shop Knobs & Knockers off Princes St?
7

Jakey Rowling,

28/07/2008 14:15:13
Sounds as though the owner has rubbed someone up the wrong way.
8

Johnny Yen,

28/07/2008 14:16:13
I reckon the neighbours are angling for a few "freebies"
9

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28/07/2008 14:23:07
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10

Douglas,

Bathgate 28/07/2008 14:25:11
"Some neighbours in the area are concerned that children will spot the sign and ask embarrassing questions of their parents."
Questions like:

Mummy, is Comely Bank rhyming slang?
Mummy, if daddy hates Ricky Gervais so much, why does he like 'extras'?
Daddy, why was our house so expensive?
11

Douglas,

Bathgate 28/07/2008 14:26:01
'scuse me, after you.
12

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28/07/2008 14:30:01
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13

Feral Youth who make Gorgie Tony's life hell!,

28/07/2008 14:55:25
This is the same neighbourhood where the nimby curtain twitching snobs made such a pathetic brouhaha about the possibility of a skatepark being built there so it's beggars belief that a hoorhouse ever got established, and then granton/pilton/muirhouse is just down the road people from those areas might frighten the children too!
14

NP,

Leith 28/07/2008 15:38:50
Yeah, slightly more pressing issues going on like the gallons of blood on the pavement outside my flat after Friday night's machete party...
15

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28/07/2008 15:41:41
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celtic4,

USA 28/07/2008 15:44:05
I can see nothing to complain about in putting up a sign that says "Gentlemen's Club" if the parents can read. If they do not have the good sense to answer it is a club where gentlmen go, then I pity them.
Snobbery is rampant in some places, and I think it very foolish. If no crime is being commited leave it alone. There's enough to worry about already.
17

I love to eat Sellotape,

28/07/2008 15:44:37
Yay! Mario is here!

Welcome, Mario!
18

I love to eat Sellotape,

28/07/2008 15:45:15
And what is a "hand job"? Isn't that a manicure?
19

Gabriel,

edinburgh 28/07/2008 15:50:35
The Comely Bank residents are right. These "Saunas" are apparently a front for brothels. In Germany where prostitution is legal, the ladies are accommodated in designated city areas (usually behind the main railway station) where they can go about their business under government health supervision, certainly not in a residential area such as Comely Bank.
20

I love to eat Sellotape,

28/07/2008 16:01:28
There are places in Falkirk where you can get a fish supper for a fiver.
21

Nisbet,

28/07/2008 16:02:15
Signs? Good grief, next thing you know they'll be advertising in 'respectable' newspapers.
22

I love to eat Sellotape,

28/07/2008 16:15:29
Beware, to, of these hastily-made signs often seen on country lanes. They're not always what they seem, particularly "Pick your own strawberries".
23

I love to eat Sellotape,

28/07/2008 16:15:41
sorry, second word should have been "too"
24

Nisbet,

28/07/2008 16:17:54
25

Do these Falkirk fish suppers come in wrappings which tell you where you can get your end away? I think not!
25

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 28/07/2008 16:18:08
Some day a real rain will come and wash all the scum off the streets
26

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 28/07/2008 16:20:13

#31 There used to be a 'short stay hotel' not far from Grahamston station.

I don't know if they did salt'n'sauce on the fish or salt'n'malt vinegar though.
27

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 28/07/2008 16:27:42

Or - Deep fried Swamptrash
28

CBJ,

28/07/2008 16:34:14
i want to go, where in comley bank it is ;-)
29

ZipptJeffrey,

Castle 28/07/2008 16:47:25
I would suggest that whoever put in the complaint has made things twice as worse.Because of their complaint everyone knows where this club is now and will be curious to visit. Sort of defeats the purpose. And free advertising to boot for the sauna. double whammy!!
30

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 28/07/2008 16:55:30

I met a girl once who had a Double Whammy. It made more noise than the trams, and it went through 9 volt batteries like there was no tomorrow.
31

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 28/07/2008 17:38:02

I thought the comely bank was where people use to go to make a spooge donation.
32

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 28/07/2008 17:41:48

What's a Spearmint Rhino?

Most of these saunas are more like Peppermint Hippo
33

Pocket Dictionary,

28/07/2008 18:15:14
Which newspaper group started a campaign against sauna/massage parlours, while raking in advertising money from them?

Biting the hand that feeds you!
34

Pocket Dictionary,

28/07/2008 18:19:19
Why all the fuss? What about all those public voyeurism sites the local authorities have built? You know the ones - Park and Ride.
35

ddmc,

28/07/2008 19:24:30
lol #45 that dogg_ing craze has really caught on, i see park & rides being errected all over

#36 look for the sign it's to help guys like you get sauna'd ;-)
36

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 28/07/2008 20:28:09
You might think that Lesley may have better things to do - like thinking about retiring and getting a proper job - on second thoughts she's not good enough for the private sector which is why she is what she is ...

Is it just me or are people in general just pathetic these days ? Why is there so few of us that can actually just get on with life without worrying about a wee sign or what hysteria the PC mob are spreading this decade ?
37

The 'Menace',

Edinburgh, 28/07/2008 21:23:09
Fish,n,Chips should be treated properly,if,as in the West of Scotland,you treat it liberally,holding them in your left hand,sprinkle vigorously,with WHITE,Vinegar,not MALT,(seems only to be an East habit,),take a deep breath,then two shakes of salt,then lots of Brown Sauce!,allow time to soak into newspaper,if available,then using forefingers,n,thumb,lift mixture of both,along with a mouthful of Irn-Bru,n,taste the true Scotland around you!,,Lovely!!,,Mmmm!!
38

Plantagenet,

28/07/2008 22:17:45
I can remember a takeaway food shop at the top of Johnston Terrace called 'Gobble and Go', wonder what the Castle tourists made of that?
39

Julian.,

edinburgh 28/07/2008 22:55:57
#49

Wonder what the residents of Comely Bank would say if they changed the name of the sauna to that.
40

Plantagenet,

28/07/2008 23:01:21
50. I think that it would leave a bad taste in the mouth!
41

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington Pun Factory 29/07/2008 00:37:56
Everyone seems to have gotten very steamed up about this, but I predict a happy ending.
42

Julian.,

edinburgh 29/07/2008 01:51:27
#52,

We're talking saunas here, not steam rooms. Surely you meant to say hot under the collar'-)
43

celtic4,

USA 29/07/2008 04:00:39
Mario, Where on earth are you living??? Surely not in Scotland?
44

cockatiel,

australia, expat. 29/07/2008 04:22:50
souds like a load o numpties that are complaining
fur wan the children might see the sign and ask thier parents whit it means? ie daddy/mammy you know a canny read whits that sign say mammy/daddy no bein any
the wiser don't know son/daughter
on the other hand it's been there 30 odd years is the complaints bein made now. the litterate knew, the illiterate havent a clue ie the new locals
45

horse with no name,

29/07/2008 10:14:53
think the locals need to get over themselves and stop being so precious.

Bet their own kids know more about the 'birds & bees' than they do.
46

horse with no name,

29/07/2008 10:15:32
also loving the funny comments here keep em coming...
47

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 29/07/2008 15:07:13
#4 Daft Old Git

Could the gentleman please inform us what the "filthy deeds going on" are or is it just a figment of his fevered and salacious mind or does he have private/persoal knowledge of what fleshly excesses are committed there?

 

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