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Published Date: 12 June 2008
EDUCATION bosses have revealed the first three schools to face the axe as the group tasked with drawing up the hitlist descended into chaos.
Three members of the cross-party forum considering the city's "rationalisation" plans walked out of yesterday's meeting in protest after a parent representative was ejected from the meeting.

The remaining five group members pressed ahead with the decision to announce plans for a consultation on the possible closure of Lismore, Bonnington and Westburn primaries.
CLAIMS: Education leader Marilyne MacLaren
CLAIMS: Education leader Marilyne MacLaren

It was originally thought four schools would be on the list, but Victoria Primary appears to have been given a reprieve for now.

The chaos at yesterday's meeting, however, has raised doubts about how the group will work together to come up with future proposals on the school estate.

The disorder began when Lynda Flex, who was chosen to represent secondary schools on the forum, was escorted from the meeting by City Chambers security staff.

She had previously been sent a letter from education leader Marilyne MacLaren telling her she had been removed from the forum for allegedly leaking details of the meetings to the Evening News.

Cllr MacLaren claimed she had "incontrovertible proof" that Mrs Flex – who was not the original source of the story and did not contact the Evening News –had passed on the information.

But after she failed to produce the evidence at yesterday's meeting, the Labour and Green party representatives – Andrew Burns and Alison Johnstone – walked out "on principle", along with parent Tracy Rendall, the primary schools representative.

Councillor Burns, Labour's education spokesman, said: "There was no incontrovertible proof put forward concerning earlier allegations of leaks to the press and I felt it inappropriate to stay in the meeting in such circumstances. It's important to stress that I remain supportive of the overall process the forum is undertaking."

Councillor Johnstone added: "The situation at the forum was as avoidable as it is regrettable.

"I left the meeting on principle as I was unable to support the decision to remove the secondary school parents representative."

Mrs Flex said: "If the incontrovertible evidence is null and void, the decision to remove me from the forum is null and void. I have every intention of taking her to the Standards Commission because she has broken numerous codes of conduct.

"It's tantamount to a total betrayal of every parent in Edinburgh who had faith in the education department."

Councillor MacLaren said: "Based on the information presented to today's meeting those present decided to proceed with the recommendation of three schools.

"The forum will continue to meet to review the children and families estate but there is no timescale for further recommendations. In the autumn the forum will review the results of the consultation, following today's announcement."


Parents ready to step up axe battle
PARENTS of children at the closure-threatened schools are already gearing up to fight the proposals, which will go before a special meeting of the education committee next week for approval.

Maggie Paterson, chairwoman of Lismore school's parent council, said the children had been let down by the council, particularly as the announcement came in the wake of a damning inspection report.

Leaked to the Evening News, the report said pupils were being failed by anxious teachers with low morale.

It criticised the condition of the crumbling building, as well as the impact of the uncertainty over its future.

Ms Paterson said: "There has been a deliberate ploy by the council to destroy our school and our children over the years. I am totally disgusted that the council has treated our children like this."

Meanwhile, parents at Victoria Primary in Newhaven are celebrating after being thrown a lifeline.

Susan Edwards, chairwoman of the school's parent council, said that director of education Gillian Tee, pictured, had visited the school the day before the forum meeting.

She said: "Obviously she has listened to us and the good things about the school and I'm extremely happy. Our roll and attainment are both going up so there's a lot of progress.

"Also, the building is in good order and there will be a lot of new families moving into the area with the Western Harbour development, so there's a lot of scope there."

Ms Tee said any decisions to close the schools would be subject to a public consultation.

She said: "The Education, Children and Families Committee will talk about how this should be done at a special meeting next Wednesday."

"It is likely that members will ask for a period of wider public consultation to begin at the end of the summer."



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1

Boy Wonder,

12/06/2008 12:12:56
There's no point in keeping schools open if they do not have the numbers they were built for.

Lovely photie of Councillor MacLaren, by the way, EN. Not using the ones supplied by the Council?? Good!!! :D
2

Duncan in Edinburgh,

12/06/2008 12:14:08
Dear god, can this woman get any worse. Marilyne - please resign. You are a walking disaster.
3

Bob 2,

12/06/2008 12:16:29
its democracy, but not as we know it

not far off 1984...!!!!
4

Bob 2,

12/06/2008 12:17:04
and the photo above has been air brushed!!!
5

LVT,

12/06/2008 12:31:46
Sometimes, schools have to close. Particularly when so much money has been wasted on other things in recent years.
6

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12/06/2008 12:35:17
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St pauli,

12/06/2008 12:40:53
resign, for the love of god, resign!!!!
8

The Honest Lad,

Musselburgh 12/06/2008 12:41:25
tick, tock, tick tock
9

Duncan in Edinburgh,

12/06/2008 12:50:20
#6 You're right, of course. Fortunately, the SNP manifesto on which the present Scottish Government came to power guaranteed that they would commit to the established schools building and upgrading projects in Edinburgh "brick for brick".

Still looking forward to that.
10

Scotish Exile,

12/06/2008 12:54:58
When did vera duckworth get her hair dyed and become education leader?
11

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12/06/2008 12:56:00
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12/06/2008 12:58:16
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Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

12/06/2008 12:59:49
Our Gemma is certainly wedded to this phrase "face the axe". Perhaps she's not familiar with the word "closure", diddums.
14

Heartfelt,

EDINBURGH 12/06/2008 13:09:45
To quote Fr Dougal McGuire: "IT'S A WIG, TED!!!!!!!"
15

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12/06/2008 13:31:09
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portboy,

Edinburgh 12/06/2008 13:33:12
Awwww no!!!!!!! Does this mean Lismore kids will be heading over to Brunstane every day.
As if we never had enough problems to deal with on a daily basis we get lumbered with this lot as well.
Go and head south. Niddrie Mill is closer :-)
17

THE BPRENTICE,

12/06/2008 13:36:03
No surprise here then - when the powers that be wanted to sell, sell , sell our souls...oh I mean schools to fill the black holes instead of cutting back on civil servant pensions etc...they were caught red handed trying to sell schools e.g. abbeyhill where occupancy was over 90% but they wanted the cash.

So, when they were beatedn back - they have obviously thought they would come again another day to lower the boom.

Shame about the photie - I've not long bought something from the garden that is a head you put your garden hose into and water gushes out of the mouth and top of the head...its kinda like a totem pole face...spookily similar to the above pic. Maybe pound notes gush out of Marilyne's head and mouth when plugged into the school hoses?
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Porty Pirate,

The Beach 12/06/2008 13:40:53
It is a sad fact of life that some schools may have to close but how can any parent (or anyone else for that matter)have confidence in the selection process while Cllr Maclaren is involved. Her behaviour over this and other related matters beggars belief and confidence in any decision made will be almost non-existent. She surely has to step down - she is dragging education in this city backwards.
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Alex Aitken,

Leith 12/06/2008 13:45:56
Bonnington would have been fine for numbers this year. The P1 uptake was better, pupils were coming back and then someone started another scare campaign and parents move their kids. Suddenly Bonnington doesn't have the numbers any more. Is that any surprise? They close the canteen, the headmaster resigns and teachers panic and leave. There are kids crying in the playground because they are scared about their school closing. Thats your caring council for you.
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edinburgh forever,

cardiff 12/06/2008 14:08:34
that mclaren woman looks like shirley bassey eh?
21

Spout,

Edinburgh 12/06/2008 14:15:42
#19 - well said. Councillor McLaren makes me embarrassed to live in this city.
22

jamboboetjie,

leith 12/06/2008 14:39:15
I know a number of Parents who removed their children from Bonnington Primary,due to 2 or 3 mothers who terrorized the other children.Our child use to come home in tears after being shouted and sworn at by these so called mothers.It was a nightmare.
23

Save Portobello Park,

12/06/2008 14:52:02
I think the lady is doing a fine job.
24

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12/06/2008 15:21:50
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Tommy Cockles,

Embra 12/06/2008 16:05:43
No.25: "these so called mothers"
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So, are you implying they are not mothers? The Child Benefit Centre should be told ...
26

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 12/06/2008 16:27:31
Woof woof.
27

Potter,

Edinburgh 12/06/2008 16:30:11
Go Lynda.
Queen Marilyn should be "null and voided".
28

ConnorD,

12/06/2008 16:42:12
Every issue that MacLaren gets involved with turns into a complete bourach. Is she acting in isolation and thinking for herself? I think that may be the problem.
BTW, please, please, please EN, keep using your photographs of Councillors like MacLaren. I need them so I can cut them up, stick them to my front door so I can ward off evil spirits .... not to mention rogues, vagabonds, footpads, cold callers and those funny smelly wee men who offer to sharpen your shears and lawnmowers.
29

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12/06/2008 17:16:54
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MummyWease,

12/06/2008 17:49:44
Westburn has turned children away this year as there isn't enough room as the catchment area children were all taking up their places. Yet P1 parents will be buying a uniform and in a few months time have to buy a new one for the new school their child will have to go to. Then you have all the excess staff from these schools meaning that the council employment freeze will continue. Maybe if Some of the bigwigs took a wage cut then we wouldn't need to close down schools!
31

TeenageGhoulScout,

Edinburgh 12/06/2008 17:50:43
Quadruple chins much?

Does she put her make up on in the dark or is she trying to achieve the worn out hooker look?

Perhaps she'd be more suited to work in Salamander Street than Edinburgh City Council?

At least there she wouldn't have to venture far out of her two syllable comfort zone.
32

supawhateva,

Close by ... 12/06/2008 17:56:36
Morticia MacLaren must now produce her 'incontrovertible evidence'or apologise profusely to Lynda Flex before a packed Council Chamber.
The good citizens of Edinburgh are waiting ...
33

fedup edinburgh mum,

12/06/2008 18:39:12
Well I think parents of Ednburgh should now think, do we trust this woman to do the best for our children...NO!! she has to sell schools before March next year to balance C & F books as they will be running into a deficit Again. She has taken approx £4 million from school budgets since August last year, Elderly and disabled care has been cut, so where has she been putting the extra money? Is she going to put the Capital Receipts from the school sales in to Wave 3 schools......Think not it'll go into he big pot. If this had been a normal person, we would be dismissed for gross misconduct and sent packing with no Golden Handshake.
34

jdships,

12/06/2008 19:21:57
36 supawhateva

I second the motion !

Can someone please tell us what qualification this person MacLaren has to entitle her be in the job she is in ?
If she was working in the "private sector" she would have had her P45 by now.
A total embarresment to the City who ranks up there with the best/worst - depending how you look at it !!
35

Kevin@Work,

Home 12/06/2008 21:27:33
That picture would be good above a fire place.... keep the kids away from it!!!
36

filthy,

12/06/2008 22:51:08
34# just change the badge on the shellsuit
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13/06/2008 00:19:53
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candysticks,

13/06/2008 00:27:56
Re post 25 and 29

Yes these 'so called mothers' did everything BUT mother their children.

Their children were trouble makers who regularly assaulted other kids, vandalised the school etc. etc. but the type who denied their child capable of violence. They - the parents - then verbally abused the child victims. In fact, I once witnessed one of these 'so called mothers' call their child a c**t. Guess where the child gets the attitude? I could name names but obviously that would be libelous.

My kids are not angels and I'm more than happy to accept that; but they know they will be disciplined if they step out of line or bully, cause willful damage.

Bonnington is doing a great job for my daughter and she's continually achieving great results - I don't mean in 'tests' but in general. Not only is she getting a good education, she's learning / learned about so many different cultures and why it's important to respect and understand different cultures. Bonnington was one of the most multicultural schools in Edinburgh until these threats of closure were revealed some years ago now.

Since then many parents have removed their children from the school - that includes staff with children of a primary school age. And when staff start to place their children in other schools, people lose faith, jump ship, expect the inevitable - closure.

My daughter is about to go into Primary 7 and quite frankly, I don't want to move her to another school at this stage - no child wants to move going into P7 when there's that big move to High School just 12 months ahead.

My worry about Bonnington is that given the fact that it's almost inevitable now that it's going to close - sadly - how many parents will move their child between now and August?

The current role (according to EEN) is 80 children. There will be at least 12 moving up to High School and I would imagine that the parents of children on the role for the next P1 will be rethinking and placing in other schools,
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candysticks,

13/06/2008 00:30:48
And the end of my post...

It's the end of term in 2 weeks and if the numbers in Bonnington in the '08/09 term are what, 50 - 60 kids spread over the 7 years, will the teachers bail out knowing that they will be placed somewhere else and want to do so sooner rather than later?

Is my daughter going to turn up at school for the start of the new term in August to discover that she's one of 20 kids and how many teachers? And will the council take the decision to close earlier than planned? My understanding was they couldn't close schools before July '09.

Did I mention, we're not in the catchment area for Bonnington? Far from it, but I doubt my daughter would get a better education than she's getting just now anywhere else in the city.








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13/06/2008 03:48:27
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Shurley,

Edinburgh 13/06/2008 12:10:38
in the words of the ugly couple from Fife (aren't they all)

"Lismore no more"
42

Shurley,

edinburgh 13/06/2008 12:19:37
and come to think of it (although that very thought scares me)is said mrs mclaren realted to those boys....maybe she is trying to raise their profile to get them booked for the Coonsils (sic) big xmas bash....who knows what goes on in the her chamber

 

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