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Published Date: 30 March 2009
OBJECTORS have got the Royal Company of Archers in their sights over plans to knock down the home of Edinburgh's oldest bowling club to make way for an exclusive student development.
More than 100 objections have been lodged against the plans by the RCA to develop a new archery range and student housing on the site in the Meadows. The plans have been recommended for approval by council officials.

But objectors have hit out at the plans, which also involve the demolition of a historic lodge house, saying they will damage the character of the Meadows and ruin the setting of the B-listed Archers' Hall.

Heritage watchdog the Cockburn Association said it was "unnecessary and inappropriate".

Yvonne Holton, cases committee officer with the Cockburn Association, said: "The proposals as they stand represent an over-development of the site that compromises historic built fabric, the setting of the B-listed Archer's Hall and do not enhance the Southside Conservation area.

"The demolition of the lodge house to make way for new-build student accommodation is unnecessary and inappropriate."

Paul Beswick, a member of Tollcross Community Council, added: "It's clear that this development cannot be approved without driving a coach and horses through all our planning guidance and rules."

The development would see two student accommodation buildings created, with room for 75 students.

There would also be a new modern entrance link created for Archers' Hall, and the conversion of the lodge to provide further student accommodation.

The RCA, the Queen's official bodyguards when she is in Scotland, has said the development is vital to secure the future of both Archers' Hall and the nationally important collection of historic artefacts contained within. And it is hoping it will allow the company to make the collection more accessible to the public.

But the Southside Community Council have also objected, and secretary Colin Christison said: "The entire site is important to the character of the area. The site has been spoken of as 'sterile' when it is a peaceful oasis in a busy part of the city."

Despite this, council officials have recommended the application be approved, and said the loss of the historic bowling green and clubhouse was compensated for by the improved access to archery.

They also said there would be no adverse impact on the conservation area as a result of the development.

In a statement to the council, David Younger, chairman of the RCA, said without the development there could be "no certainty" that the company could continue to support the upkeep of Archer's Hall and the collection.

"The benefits of the project are of both local and national significance," he said.

The plans are expected to be approved by the council on Wednesday.


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  • Last Updated: 30 March 2009 10:41 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh planning issues
 
1

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 30/03/2009 10:51:54
It's easy to take a vocal stand against progress. I'm aware of several historically important buildings in Edinburgh that have been "rescued" by the so-called conservation groups only to be later demolished because they have become derelict and unsafe. These groups should put their money where there mouth is and, if they really believe that a building is worth keeping, they should do something positive about it.



2

Skatedad,

Back from France 30/03/2009 11:07:27
Just passed Saughton Park. No sign of "summer opening" skate park.
3

Minty,

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 11:37:56
#1 You are 30 years out of date with that comment. The Cockburn Assoc. set up a buildings preservation trust in the 1970s to rescue old buildings.

http://www.conservationtrust.co.uk/cct/
4

BeenThereSeenIt,

30/03/2009 12:13:35
It appears that there is one general rule when it comes to planning applications, and another for the old school tie network that has been at work again to ensure that when it really matters, no matter how many objections are received, that planning permission is rubber stamped.
One can only assume that David Murray did not have his old school tie on when he made his application to revamp a whole village - Ratho Station!
5

Seb,

30/03/2009 12:19:02
What a poorly put together article. The plans have been revised and the lodge is being converted into student accomodation instead of being demolished. It was the intervention of Historic Scotland that seemed to have stopped the demolition.
6

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 30/03/2009 12:20:49
Students have to stay somewhere,so give them a tent in the Pentlands and leave the bowling club.
7

One-man-bucket's older twin,

30/03/2009 12:27:50
I can just see the people who like bowling falling over each other to take up archery. How about access to polo?
8

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 12:43:27
"And it is hoping it will allow the company to make the collection more accessible to the public."

Do they really think anyone cares or would even take the time to visit this 'collection'?

The RCA are just a crowd of geriatric fossils anyway and are merely worthy of mirth when out on the Meadows.

Wheelchairs anyone?

9

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 12:46:52
"council officials have recommended the application be approved, and said the loss of the historic bowling green and clubhouse was compensated for by the improved access to archery" - What absolute garbage - The Royal Company of Archers is about the most exclusive 'Club' in Scotland; certainly the 'Best Connected'. They'd set the dogs (pedigree, of course)on any of the lower orders who had the impertinence to turn up at their range.
10

Arrow,

edinburgh 30/03/2009 13:23:49
#9 are you spealing from experience or just mouthing off on matters you know little of? sound just like those who say "do you think you're better than me?" and get all confused when you reply "too damn right". then agin it is not so hard to be better, brighter and well advised if you can read without you lips moving or pointing with you finger along the line. 95% of the population in this fair land are thick as a plank.
11

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 14:16:45
#10, is your Moniker significant in this personal attack? But seeing as you ask, I do have some previous professional experience of this bunch of latter-day Robin Hoods. And I've seen them tottering down (because some of them are too feeble to march up) the High Street in what passes for a 'procession'.
12

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 14:38:00
##11 Thomas,

These guys are just a joke, they are not even of ceremonial value but are really full of themselves.

Years ago I worked in the old RIE at Lauriston Place, the department I worked in was located right next to the Meadows and it was just such a laugh to see these living fossils at play once a year when the Queen visited Edinburgh.

Most of these characters were so old and weak that they couldn't draw back their own bowstrings (pathetic really).

13

Donald, Edinburgh,

30/03/2009 15:18:07
#11, 12 -yes, what a laugh, people getting old and infirm. Especially if they're better off than me and have achieved something with their lives.
14

calum,

30/03/2009 15:35:21
I have to agree with some of the comments above. The Royal Company of Archers is an invited cabal of old bufties who reward each other for being a thoroughly good chap with a position in this pensioners' game of "bows 'n' arra's". Actually, its still classed as a private club for archers and amusingly they give each other military titles .... Captain, General, Lieutenant. Similar to the High Constables, in fact, a ceremonial rag-bag of the old boys network.
Useless, outdated and disproportionately influential.
15

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 16:05:47
#14 Calum,

You have raised some very good points Calum. I have a friend who is one of the 'younger' members of the RCA and he is also a High Constable, these organisations seem to run hand-in-hand. And 'Yes' #13 he is much wealthier than I, but I wouldn't suggest that he has achieved much.

16

nSyratzcGlaw,

30/03/2009 16:12:07
Unlike you Peter. you have achieved stress , and paranoia beyond the realms of reality.
17

(-_-),

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 17:02:54
This site is like the other 4 student residences round the Meadows, it has very poor security for one of the most vulnerable groups of people in our community, the students.

{*_*}
18

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 30/03/2009 17:06:25
#10;13, I'm quite content with what I've achieved (so far) in life. I've never felt the slightest desire to strut about like a constipated stork in Green Pantaloons, wearing a Special Feathered Hat, nor to dress up like a Victorian Undertaker and wave a Ceremonial Stick. The absence of an invitation to join either group of superannuated public schoolboys will cause me no sleepless nights.
19

Suntoucher,

Exiled 30/03/2009 17:19:08
It is a very badly written article and I remember the same sort of fuss and nonsence was put up by Paul Beswick when there was another 'student residence' application put up last year. I think to say that "It's clear that this development cannot be approved without driving a coach and horses through all our planning guidance and rules." is either a misquote or the guy is not serious or more likely wanting to cause a bit of mischief - I think they (South Side CC) should just be honest and say that they don't want students and stop being so polite - but then I guess they can't, becuase that is not a valid material consideration. (p.s. I think the design is pretty poor - now that is something they could object to with some validity?)
20

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 31/03/2009 09:54:11
#16 nSyratzcGlaw

Sounds like you're not doing too badly yourself, or perhaps you're off to the Meadows for a quick shot with your bow.

21

Steph Penwise,

Edinburgh 26/05/2009 20:14:23
This is (yet again) a poorly researched article containing out of date information. The planning application did recieve a number of objections, these were taken into consideration and the plans were changed to accommodate the objectors. The lodge is not being demolished. The quotes used here were in reference to the intial plans back in August. If the author had cared to read the Evening News' previous articles, they would see this. The project has now been recommended for approval meaning planning consultees are in support of the curent proposals. I wish the Evening News would stop trying to rile people up with out of date information.

 

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