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Published Date: 14 February 2009
FEARS have been raised over job cuts after city leaders revealed plans to put the council's customer service functions out to tender.
Council chiefs are to invite private firms to submit ideas on how they could improve the customer facing areas of the council, such as council tax collection or its call centre. The initiative would see companies come in and manage or reorganise council departments with them splitting the money saved with city leaders.

Union bosses have today requested an urgent meeting with chief executive Tom Aitchison for more details on the move.

It is thought an official tender document will not be issued until the summer, with any changes not expected to be in place until next year at the earliest.

A similar initiative in Liverpool saw the local authority there save millions but a series of reorganisations did result in job losses.

Council chiefs have already used external management consultants to reorganise a number of key departments.

City finance leader Gordon Mackenzie today insisted the move was about improving services and added the intention was not to axe council jobs. But unions and opposition politicians today raised concerns about public services falling into private hands.

Unison's service conditions convener John Ross said: "We are very concerned about this. If the work goes into private hands then you are losing control which the council should have and we are of course very worried about the impact on jobs.

"We have seen the impact (management consultants] Pinnacle have had on other council services where there has been job losses."

It is thought an advert asking firms to note interest in developing "new business models for delivering services" will be placed in the next few weeks.

The city's Labour leader, Councillor Andrew Burns, said: "I've got serious concerns for both the council employees and the quality of services if we go down this road. I have been down to Liverpool and seen how it works there and they have had a reduction in staff.

"It may be the case there is scope for reducing the number of staff but what has to remain paramount is the quality of service."

Management consultancy firm Pinnacle was paid £3.6m to carry out a shake-up of the council's waste department aimed at bringing in changes to save £11.7m over the next three years.

Cllr Mackenzie said: "There are a number of council services which we are not delivering as efficiently as we could be. This tendering process will not be looking at areas like education or social work but more the customers service functions such as council tax enquires.

"It has the potential to make significant savings for the council and provide better services."


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  • Last Updated: 14 February 2009 10:27 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Marian,

14/02/2009 11:07:58
Taxpayers should hope that this is the first of a long list of Council Services that are put out to competitive tender with the Private sector where we will get a far better service at much lower cost to the taxpayer.
2

Marian,

14/02/2009 11:47:57
I repeat that for the benefit of taxpayers as a matter of principle the Council should not be directly employing staff to do jobs that can be done better and at much less cost by the private sector.

With a proper performance standards specification and properly qualified management for the service to be contracted out there should be no problems. As evidence of this I would remind you that private sector companies sub-contract out parts of their business all the time with very few problems.
3

Fifi la Bonbon,

14/02/2009 12:14:45
Why doses it cost £3.6m to use the services of a consultant?

I should maybe form my own company - I would do a proper time and motion study for - say - £1m a go - and I'd retire after doing three of these.

Money for old rope!
4

Concerned Sighthill,

14/02/2009 12:39:42
What has Pinnacle achieved in Waste Management? Has anybody seen any improvement? I doubt it.
Pinnacle and Mark Turley are too close.
5

Bob 2,

14/02/2009 12:42:15
consultants

its a good gravy train... people retire or take golden handshakes from their employers

and then go back as consultants earning thousands.
6

fatwendy,

waverly 14/02/2009 13:15:35
The Councillors should ask who came up with the idea, sounds like Mark Turley finding more work for his freinds in pinnacle.
7

craft the musk,

14/02/2009 13:54:06
The Council score about 5/10 for 'customer' service.

Getting a call centre in Swindon to fob people off with stupid responses to questions will only make it worse. Some daft school leaver saying "Sorry mate my computer definitely says you ain't paid ya council tax for last free munfs" When in actual fact the kid can't count.


NO THANKS
8

craft the musk,

14/02/2009 13:58:27
Also - getting a call centre in Swindon to provide what will essentially be customer non-service will be vastly cheaper than employing local people.

Will we see a CT bill reduction?

Basically the council should be disbanded asap.
9

Catherine,

Edinburgh 14/02/2009 14:12:50
Is "Tendering" the new 'in' word for 2009? Why don't you just call it privatisation? I don't know what the world is coming to but we've just heard that the social care we provide (not council) will be put out to 'tender'. How can you put a price on peoples lives and care??
10

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 14/02/2009 14:32:47
"The initiative would see companies come in and manage or reorganise council departments with them splitting the money saved with city leaders."
In brown paper envelopes ?
11

craft the musk,

14/02/2009 14:36:05
#15

No, it's got nothing to do with privatisation.

Buyt a dictionary.
12

craft the musk,

14/02/2009 14:36:19
Bite a dictionary.
13

the watchfull eye,

14/02/2009 16:38:38
pinnacle have gone but a new company has been brought in to replace them. they have also been brought in by mark turley, who seems not to be able to run his own department with the staff he has. which is very strange indeed as he promised to do magnificent job but then has to rely on consultants to do his job for him while promoting all his personnel friends into highly paid positions. its smacks very loudly of big brown evnvolopes in this department.
14

Baker,

14/02/2009 17:21:16
#10

You'll find a few very senior managers in his department are very, very close to Turley. Been the same for years.
15

fatwendy,

waverly 14/02/2009 17:40:25
Yup, so right. Housing staff numbers up, council houses way down, maybe consultants could look at that that RELATIONSHIP.
16

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 14/02/2009 18:17:32
23, Yes, interesting story; I remember it well. Could an equally valid take not be that an arrogant bunch of rank amateurs in charge of the Kooncil's IT procurement found themselves taken to the cleaners, quite legitimately, by a much sharper outfit in BT? This municipal incompetence is replicated all the way through the shambolic Embra Kooncil. Neither the previous Labour administration nor the current rag-bag of woolly-minded muppets have a clue what's REALLY going on.
17

iain,

edinburgh 14/02/2009 18:40:45
i am out of employment and when i look at the council all i see is a very expensive service provider....
18

Manclothian,

Manchester 14/02/2009 22:12:33
For what it's worth, I'm in the process of establishing a privately owned call centre in the Borders. This news excites me - yes we can do it cheaper, better AND create local jobs. This is a fantastic opportunity.
19

glaswegian at heart,

florida 15/02/2009 04:35:01
Iwholeheartedly agree that DELL TECH SUPPORT is the worst .I had reason to call for phone "help".Before they would give any advice I had to OK a charge to a credit card.After almost an hour of them giving no help and repeatedly telling me I needed a new monitor I told them thanks for nothing.A friend came to visit and had my problem solved in 2 minutes.Ihad clicked on a toolbar that gave me a split screen.DELL sent me an email to rate my satisfaction with the service.I blush when I think of my reply.I just wonder if they can read ENGLISH better than they speak the language..........
20

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 15/02/2009 10:05:54
rs@25 - I don't 'manage' anything for the Cooncil - structure is incompetent from the top, down. I base my assessment on many years professional liaison, at all levels, and as a reluctant and very dissatisfied customer.
21

Davyboy,

15/02/2009 11:42:10
It sounds like jobs for the boys!!
22

bluehead,

edinburgh 15/02/2009 12:56:18
its just another thing to add to the mess Edinburgh is in,poor auld Edinburgh looks like a war zone at the moment with the maniacal tram system that the council are pushing through,even though most people are disgusted with all that money being thrown down the drain,by this crazy project,
we had a first class bus service that must have been the best in the country,but there are signs that it is starting to deteriorate now which is what most people thought would happen through the tram fiasco
the city is beginning to look like a gigantic human sardine tin with all these people stotting about
the should put a wall round Edinburgh and put a sign up
saying "welcome to the lunatic asylum"!!!

 

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