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Published Date: 30 January 2008
A WIDOWER has demanded an apology from blundering council officials after they ordered him to prove his late wife was no longer living with him.
Thomas Hunter, 64, was devastated by a letter from the city council – sent during a crackdown on council tax fraud – saying there was reason to believe his late wife, Doreen, may be sharing his Abbeyhill flat.

Mrs Hunter died from cancer on April 21, 2003, and Mr Hunter has been living alone ever since.

After his wife passed away, he sent a copy of her death certificate to council officials in order to claim single person household discount – which he has been receiving until now.

But just over a week ago, he received a letter asking for proof that he was living alone, and naming his wife as the person suspected of living with him.

The city council has now apologised for the blunder, which it says was down to "technical issues".

Retired lorry driver Mr Hunter, of Brand Place, said: "It really hurt me, getting this out of the blue, especially with it being close to the anniversary of her death.

"I've written them a letter demanding an apology, and I want an apology from Jenny Dawe herself. Why would they do this when they have already got a copy of the death certificate?

"Why is the council acting as God and resurrecting people just so they can claim extra council tax? I'm utterly disgusted with them. Fair enough, they're looking to get all the people fraudulently living together, but they were notified that my wife is dead."

The Evening News revealed last week that £1.2 million has been clawed back by the council following a review of people who claim single person household discount.

Last September, the authority launched a crackdown on council tax cheats, amid fears that thousands of households were fraudulently claiming the discount. The review accounts for around 4000 cases, although this also includes residents whose circumstances have changed.

The letter received by Mr Hunter said: "Please confirm what link they (Doreen Hunter] have to where you live in writing within 14 days of the date of this letter. Failure to do so will result in the loss of your single person's discount."

A council spokeswoman said: "Our external partner, Experian, had some technical issues which led to a small number of errors in reviewing claims for single person allowances.

"We are now aware that the information gathered, in this case, was incorrect and apologise profusely to Mr Hunter for any distress this caused. We will be writing to him to clarify the situation.

"We are working with Experian to ensure that similar problems don't occur in the future."

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30/01/2008 12:36:12
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Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 30/01/2008 12:44:50
'A council spokeswoman said: "Our external partner, Experian.'

What!!!! is this a Civil Partnership??

For real, since when is an English Credit rating company an Edinburgh Council 'Partner'

Proves that the Council are using sneaky Credit checks on people to find out where they are. Pity Experian doesn't tell who is alive or dead.

Shame on the Council even to resort to these underhand tactics.
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JT,

30/01/2008 12:57:40
This is truely disgusting, although not surprising. Why dont the council chase those who WONT pay rather than those who cant or in this gentleman's case is paying. When I moved into the city it took 6 weeks to get a council tax bill then another 6 weeks to get the name then I got a letter for not paying it. I took a precious day off (I was a contractor at the time) went to a housing office and waited 3 hours to see someone who cleared the mess up in 5 mins! I have no faith in this council never have done.
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Bob 2,

30/01/2008 13:06:12
typical Council, not our fault.

They should be chasing the real "fraudsters" who evade paying there Council tax.
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Bob Bing,

Edinburgh 30/01/2008 13:16:02
Just me or is this a complete non-story? Council sends our letter with a mistake in it, which it has apologised for. Is that it? Slow news day I guess...
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Bob Bing,

Edinburgh 30/01/2008 13:16:52
Oops - should have been "sends out letter" of course.
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 30/01/2008 13:17:03
Here we go again - the council blaming anybody else but themselves for something that WAS there error.

the blame culture of Edinburgh Council is disgusting.

Mr Hunter dealt with the council not some sub contracted company so the council ARE responsible.

I don't think the coucil have the intelligence to act any differently. Time for changes big time!!
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Iain fae Elgin,

London 30/01/2008 13:34:34
#1..."It's impossible to prove a negative...."

No it's not.

Hearts or Hibs will never win anything ever again while I'm alive (and I'm 37)

The proof?

They are both p!sh....



Och, help ma' boab...my sides are hurting.. :)
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Gothic Rose,

30/01/2008 13:51:10
Thier [Edin.Council]SO new website dos`nt work.Therefore why should any thing else?
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Angus R,

30/01/2008 13:52:54
#13 I bet both them win a game before you die.
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30/01/2008 14:06:04
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Justy,

Edinburgh 30/01/2008 14:20:38
Mr Hunter has my full support regarding an apology from overpaid council administrators. In case readers are unaware these self made empire builders are snooping into all areas of one's life.

Justy.
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Chris.J,

Edinburgh 30/01/2008 14:50:22
#4 well spotted. What the hell are the council doing using Experian - a private credit reference agency - to maintain public records. Shouldn't it be working the other way round? Shouldn't the private agencies be basing their data on the electoral roll - a public register maintained by public bodies? There is something distinctly murky just under the surface here.

Since when did the state give control over our most personal citizenship data to a private company? That'll be easy - since the Labour Party ejits and their insatiable hunger for private "outsourcing" started to wreck things.
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William of Liberton,

EDINBURGH 30/01/2008 15:13:44
Bad grammar too! "....what link they (Doreen Hunter] have to where you live in writing within..." Plural pronoun for singular person!
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Justy,

Edinburgh 30/01/2008 20:46:44
"Technical issues." Any alibi to hide the fact that the council employees in the offending department are idiots.
I call it a d----d incompetence. Involve your MSP Mr Hunter.
Justy.
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Artemis,

Embra 30/01/2008 23:58:49
It must be really nice to be you lot and never have made a mistake at your work. What's it like being so perfect?
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COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 31/01/2008 01:26:39
where.does.council.employees.train/DISNEY.WORLD
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COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 31/01/2008 01:44:59
SHE.STILL.LIVES.WITH.THE.MAN.IN.HIS.HEART./MEMORY
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The 'Menace',

Edinburgh, 15/02/2008 16:42:31
Mah sister STILL owes 'Crazy George' a right few bob,but,they(Experian!) can't trace her,So!,,ah'm no' tellin nae'body...So!..but,as other posts say!..My Condolencies,Mr Hunter...

 

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