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Thatcher's legacy holds Scottish Tories in an iron grip

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Published Date: 29 April 2009
ONLY a few days after she was elected Tory leader, Margaret Thatcher was mobbed by enthusiastic crowds in Edinburgh's St James shopping centre. Police had to send for reinforcements in a bid to control the 3000 people swarming around her; at least three women fainted; and in the end the walkabout had to be abandoned.
The first woman to be elected to lead one of Britain's main political parties was delighted with her reception in Scotland. "I have been given the most marvellous welcome that any politician could ever have been given anywhere in the world," she told
a lunch for 600 party officials, MPs and supporters later in the day.

The St James Centre – later to be dubbed Edinburgh's ugliest building – may seem a curious venue for Mrs Thatcher's Scottish debut. But back in 1975 it was new and shiny, rather like Mrs Thatcher herself.

And just as people now find it incredible that such a development was ever given planning permission, some Scots might find it difficult to believe there was ever that kind of welcome north of the border for the woman who would later introduce the poll tax, close the mines and be accused of destroying Scotland's traditional industries.

Edinburgh Pentlands MSP David McLetchie recalls a "tremendous enthusiasm" for Mrs Thatcher in those early days. "She had a bit of the Obama effect because of the sheer novelty of it at that time," he says. "I remember her visits and speeches at conferences. There was a real passion and enthusiasm. She says herself in her books that the atmosphere was terrific."

Mrs Thatcher's election victory in 1979 – 30 years ago on Sunday – followed a vote of no confidence in James Callaghan's Labour government a few weeks earlier. The country had come through the Winter of Discontent and seen the failure of the referendum for a Scottish Assembly.

The Tories got in with a majority of 43 over all other parties. In Scotland, they took 31 per cent of the vote and won 22 of the 71 seats. It was a better performance than the previous election, but mainly thanks to the collapse of the SNP, which went from 11 MPs to just two.

In Edinburgh, the Tories already held four out of the seven parliamentary seats and the party's vote increased in most constituencies across the city.

David McLetchie – who was the Tory candidate against the late Robin Cook in Edinburgh Central in 1979, his one and only bid for election until he stood for the Scottish Parliament in 1999 – says Mrs Thatcher was an unknown quantity in Scotland at the time.

"She was an English MP and in the previous Tory government she had been Education Secretary, which meant she did not have direct dealings with Scotland."

He says Mrs Thatcher maintained her popularity in Scotland over the first four years of her government. In the 1983 general election, the Tories lost just one seat.

But after that, he says, unemployment and the change in Scotland's industrial base gathered pace. In the 1987 election, the party collapsed from 21 MPs to just ten. And after winning one seat back in 1992, it went on to lose all its Scottish MPs in Labour's 1997 landslide.

Mr McLetchie refuses to blame Mrs Thatcher for the party's decline, although he accepts her initial popularity in Scotland turned to something much more negative. "Her persona and image didn't play well for large sections of middle Scotland in the same way as she had a strong appeal in England.

"She became a figure that could readily be demonised and caricatured by our political opponents. Sometimes Mrs Thatcher had a harder image than her policies actually warranted and she played up to the caricature. Instead of showing a more compassionate and sympathetic tone – which I think was there – she almost lived up to her image and felt she had to be the strident Iron Lady."

Mr McLetchie insists the poll tax, introduced a year early in Scotland, was not the Tories' nemesis. "The wipe-out in 1997 was as much to do with the failings of the Major government as anything Mrs Thatcher had done."

He admits there is still a "perception problem" for the Tories in Scotland because of the negative memories of Mrs Thatcher. But he would rather reclaim her legacy than try to disown it. "We should celebrate her achievements," he says.

That's not a universal feeling in the party, however. The Tories in Scotland have been much slower to recover than the party down south. And even if David Cameron becomes Prime Minister at the next election, no-one expects him to have more than a handful of Scottish MPs.

Even after all these years, for many Scottish voters, mention of the Tories brings to mind Mrs Thatcher's apparently "anti-Scottish" policies – the injustices of the poll tax, the bitterness of the miners' dispute and the willingness to let once proud industries go to the wall.

In an interview for a new book about Mrs Thatcher and Scotland by former Evening News journalist David Torrance, the former Prime Minister does little to alter such perceptions, accusing Scots of being in "self denial" about their "culture of dependency".

Lady Thatcher herself will attend a dinner in Glasgow on Saturday to mark the 30th anniversary. But some senior Scottish Tories believe the occasion will simply dredge up memories and revive hostility to the party.

"The anniversary could not be ignored," says one party insider. "But it's never going to be a happy story."





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1

Big Dave Fae The Rigs,

29/04/2009 09:51:23
Vote no Guinea Pig Scotland
2

Dark Lochnagar,

http://darklochnagar.blogspot.com 29/04/2009 10:15:23
The Tories will not recover in Scotland until they throw off the Unionist mantra and become enthusiastic over independence. There are some in the Tory party who are quite happy to have independence after which they can put their current philosophies to the Scottish people. They are however few and far between.
3

Allan(handofgod137),

29/04/2009 10:54:00
2&3 The gnats are destined to lose any independence vote until they abandon the failed socialist policies, and get rid of the leftist failures who hold so many ministerial posts.
4

The Master,

29/04/2009 11:03:23
"The Tories got in with a majority of 43 over all other parties. In Scotland, they took 31 per cent of the vote and won 22 of the 71 seats. It was a better performance than the previous election, but mainly thanks to the collapse of the SNP, which went from 11 MPs to just two."

The Tories should look to the Nats if they want to know how to come back from the dead; the Tories actually mopped up the vote of their tartan counterparts after Scots turned against them on mass for bringing down Callaghan and urging in many years of Thatcherism.

If the Nats can come back from being reduced to two MPs then so can the Tories; we all know that it's the same type of person who votes for both of them anyhow.

Is the Master right, or is the Master right!
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Teamdroid,

29/04/2009 11:31:41
#5 No, you're wrong. But keep clinging to your fantasy of who the Tartan Tories actually are, if it helps you sleep at night.

On the article, it isn't Thatcher who holds the Tories back any more. It's the simple fact that they lost the argument over devolution, and have never fully accepted that. This is a party who basically said Holyrood would be a Parliament "over my dead body". In 1997 the Scottish electorate killed them off in order to make sure it was set up. Since then they've come back as a law'n'order pressure group, but I suspect even a lot of Tory voters can't take the idea of a Tory First Minister seriously.
The Tories should take a pragmatic approach, and start pushing for Fiscal Autonomy for Holyrood. That gets them back credibility on economic grounds. As it is, they're being reactionary.
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alanh,

ek 29/04/2009 11:31:42
so do you think that the tories will mop up he vote of their nu liebore counterparts whenever Maggie Broon calls the election then master?
7

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 29/04/2009 12:52:20
#4:

Absolutely! Think about it... Would you REALLY trust the current government to operate with a free hand? Think of their track record so far...

Two bans, plenty of proposed restrictions, the scrapping of a £1 bridge toll and some gesture politics.

I tell you what. We could certainly do a lot worse than be "stuck" with the legacy of Thatcher. Being stuck with the legacy of 12 years of stupid labour comes immediately to mind there.
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29/04/2009 13:44:09
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Jim Taylor,

29/04/2009 14:35:31
Thatcher's main legacy, appart from her "apparently "anti-Scottish" policies – the injustices of the poll tax, the bitterness of the miners' dispute and the willingness to let once proud industries go to the wall" has to be that it was her policies that hastened the debacle that is Holyrood.

Single-handedly she whipped up the anti-Westminster feeling that opened the door for the Scottish Parliament.

This was her biggest disservice to all Scots, who are now subjected to the yolk of poor and excessive government.

That's why I despise Thatcher most.

During her "reign" I always recognised that history would be her judge. The emotive antipathy felt at the time is now being subsumed, and will be even more so, as thefull ramifications of what she did to us is further realised.

Thatcher spawned Blair.

And Blair destroyed the Labour Party as the political wing of the working and socially disadvantaged classes.

We're all the poorer for it.
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lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/04/2009 15:59:58
No! Labour are holding back SCOTLAND - FULL STOP!
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29/04/2009 16:20:13
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29/04/2009 18:45:10
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 29/04/2009 22:14:24
#9:

"Thatcher spawned Blair."

There's a certain amount of truth in that. Stupid labour have a habit of trying to copy Tory policies, however because they lack intellect, they generally make a complete hash of doing so and almost always carry things far too far.

Think the fuel price escalator and the general (gentle) discouraging of smoking. Stupid labour carried the former through until the country came to a standstill and turned a campaign of persuasion and advice into a nazi-state clampdown run by lunatics.

Blair didn't destroy the stupid labour party either. They were easily capable of doing that themselves. What Blair did was to set up a web of lies and deception which ensured that the gloss remained intact no matter what. The problem was that under the nice shiny pain was rust.

We will be well rid of stupid labour at the next election and as far as I am concerned it can't come soon enough. I wish the Tories well in sorting out the catastrophic mess that this country has been left in by stupid labour.
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PMK,

01/05/2009 21:54:42
Dear oh dear poor Unionist drones stuck fighting each other #3&4, "The SNP are socialist", "the SNP are Tories" etc ... The SNP are popular, as they stick up for Scotland and don't roll over for Westmonster to get their tummies tickled. Thats what upsets the pair of you most. Now go away and find out what slur your meant to be forwarding in the next x weeks.
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bluepict,

03/05/2009 15:57:53
"In an interview for a new book about Mrs Thatcher and Scotland by former Evening News journalist David Torrance, the former Prime Minister does little to alter such perceptions, accusing Scots of being in "self denial" about their "culture of dependency"

Even Mrs.T identifies the problem north of the border.For an 'Iron lady' this slavering, fore lock tugging, canny keep their hands oot' the Westminster till unionistas, must have made her want tae boak!

Weel, it sure does me anyway!

BOAK!!

 

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