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Published Date: 16 May 2009
UNDER-THREAT council houses on the Canongate are set to be reused after the collapse of the Caltongate scheme.
Campaigners have been fighting the council for the last 18 months since the local authority started moving tenants out of the nine one-bedroom flats ahead of the £300 million project getting underway.

Developer Mountgrange Capital was meant to b
e meeting the cost of the rent while the flats laid empty but council chiefs today admitted they failed to collect a single penny before Mountgrange went into administration in March.

The outstanding rent is thought to be around £18,000, with officials admitting they are not sure how they will recover that money.

Council chiefs said they intend to assess the flats to see what it would take to bring the properties up to a condition fit for rent.

The nine council flats were due to be bulldozed or partially demolished as part of the Caltongate project, which was sunk when Mountgrange's bankers pulled the plug.

A further nine private flats at 227-229 Canongate have been bought up by Mountgrange over the last two years and are now in the hands of the administrator Deloitte.

Campaigners today welcomed the chance of getting people back into the empty properties, particular in light of the city's affordable housing crisis.

Julie Logan, spokeswoman for the Save Our Old Town campaign group, said: "We are really pleased that the council has finally seen the sense of the recommendation that we made in our Caltongate project report.

"There should not be a lot to do to these flats because a lot of them have had new doors and glazing, and also modernised inside in recent years.

"It will be good to get people into these homes, even on a temporary basis, and then start to have a proper look at what can be done with the area longer-term."

City leaders are trying to find firms to take on the gap site but it is thought it could be years before work gets underway.

A council spokeswoman said, "The council is considering options for bringing the nine flats back into temporary use until the future of the Caltongate development is known.

"A number of considerations need to be taken into account including the cost of bringing these properties up to rentable condition, and the timescale in which the new development is due to begin. If this proves to be feasible and cost effective, then bringing these properties back into use is a real possibility."

She added: "One of the terms Mountgrange had provisionally agreed to was they would cover the rent loss associated with the empty Council properties.

"However, as discussions are ongoing with the administrators, we are not in a position to say how this will money will be recovered."




Do you think Caltongate will ever happen?

Linda Hunter, 59, retired, Fairmilehead: "Something will happen though I doubt it will be as big and controversial as what was first put forward."

Kenny Mason, 21, student, Newington: "It strikes me that it is the sort of thing which will stay empty for years while everyone fights it out. I hope I am wrong because it is an embarrassment for the city having such a huge gap site like that."

Sarah Cooper, 30, writer, Easter Road: "It is too good an opportunity for someone not to snap it up eventually. It might take a while because everyone will be trying to get a bargain."






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  • Last Updated: 16 May 2009 11:00 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Caltongate development
 
1

mad moo,

edinburgh 16/05/2009 11:15:34
Great news
Lets hope now the empty promises from Mountgrange (paying for flats rent, provision of community facilities and their deal with Sofitel for a hotel and conference centre)are recognised as rubbish.
CEC could do worse than look at the Canongate Report in full and work with the community to provide opportunities for small business/workshop space, markets, playspace, landscaping.
Time to bring tenants back to Canongate Venture which was also promised to Mountgrange for demolition despite not having been paid for.
2

Buttress,

16/05/2009 12:02:30
It's pretty shocking that not a penny of cash was collected!

Possibly the council is learning the lesson of it not being wise, falling into bed with every carpetbagging developer promoted by the Chamber of Commerce and politicians of dubious morality, aided and abetted by a few architects who wanted to have their share of the loot.

It's fortunate that the Grade C listed Venture is still council owned, why is it not now being made ready to relet? Think of all the lost income, once the tenants were evicted for the proposed demolition by Mountgrange.
3

mad moo,

edinburgh 16/05/2009 12:33:38
Lost annual income to CEC from Canongate Venture - emptied in 2005/6 to allow for Caltongate masterplan to progress -

The estimated current rental value of the subjects is circa £80,000 which reflects that any
potential tenancy could only be struck on a very short term basis in view of the likelihood of the
properties being demolished for redevelopment purposes. Indeed properties may be un-lettable
given the circumstances”. (Source CEC June 2006)

- extract taken from Canongate Project report (found at www.eh8.org.uk)
4

Buttress,

16/05/2009 12:56:16
What a waste. Then there's the Grade C Listed Sailor's Ark, standing empty, (heaven knows when anything will be done about that, that is in the hands of the administrators presumably) if the facade isn't needed for a five star hotel then it doesn't need to be demolished. But presumably the place will be sold on eventually with demolition permission in place.

If anyone needs proof of just how dreadfully unlovely and unsuitable the Caltongate development would have been, go and see the new Allan Murray Hotel Missoni. Eyesore.

5

Howard Moon,

16/05/2009 15:29:33
Oh, so it was the enormous level of lost rental revenue that so concerned you with the development. Now I understand.

Funny you should mention Missoni - why were none of the EH8/Save our Old Town/Champagne Socialist lot so bothered about that? What was so unique about Caltongate?
6

Buttress,

16/05/2009 15:37:35
Oh, Howard Moon pops up after a long absence to be - well, pointlessly silly really.

It may be of course that the SOOT campaigners formed to oppose the Caltongate scheme, and the Missoni isn't part of that, is it? It's an eyesore, but I don't recall a number of listed buildings beintg demolished to build it.

As for 'champagne socialists', I seem to recall a champagne reception paid for by Mountgrange, attended by certain councillors? Certainly I don't think the SOOT campaigners were invited.



7

Jamie Dunne,

Edinburgh 16/05/2009 16:35:13
I like the Missoni building. Infinitely better than what was there before, talk about eyesore.

Let's just hope we can get something built in that gap soon.
8

Buttress,

16/05/2009 16:51:48
Random blocks, with pointless bits of wood stuck on. Cheap commercial architecture, by an architect who specialises isn cheap commercial architecture. Hardly worthy of the site.



9

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 16/05/2009 18:34:53
Out of failure may come some good,for the demolishers perhaps.
10

mad moo,

edinburgh 17/05/2009 11:31:21
mmmm....
remember this
in Nov 05
"George IV - Allan Murray Building
Problems as Historic Scotland call for this A-listed Robert Matthew building to be retained and the Cockburn Association call for a design competition. Allan Murray Architects' scheme (not shown as image request in September unmet, see CEC portal instead) also a concern for AHSS, EWHT and EOTA. However, recommended for approval 301105 "

followed by this
in Mar 06
"George IV Hotel Development
Rezidor SAS hotel group (a subsidiary of SAS Group - Radisson Hotels) is to be the operator of the 136 bed hotel.
Kilmartin Property Group are the developers.
Construction is due to commence in 2006 for completion in 2008."

SOOT was formed at the end of 2005 although many in SOOT and others who agreed with them over Caltongate, did speak out about this Allan Murray hotel building
11

Buttress,

18/05/2009 08:01:04
Personally, I didn't care much for the building it replaced either, (one large listed building, not a run of them, but frankly I thought A listing being rather too kind) but the new is an eyesore. Far too much bulk, and the long elevations with the peculiar shutter things... stuck on decoration with no purpose.

I recall Murray claiming that they tried to retain the Mathew building but that it wasn't possible for the intended use. In which case I would suggest that the intended use was changed, but then CEC will bend over backwards to accommodate a developer, especially a developer with a hotel in mind, no matter how much it has to bend planning policy.

See also the new hotel proposed for Princes Street to which many have objected but CEC has pssed it anyhow.
12

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 18/05/2009 11:46:23
It is a great pity that this development was not started at an earlier date. This site will now stand empty and unused for at least one year and probably longer given the current financial climate.

re the Missoni building, this is certainly no worse than the building it replaces.
13

Buttress,

18/05/2009 15:26:40
It's a great pity the development was ever even considered.

As for the Missoni, hardly considered architecture. It's not ever likely to be listed.
14

Jamie Dunne,

Edinburgh 18/05/2009 23:44:26
Unless Allan Murray architecture becomes an 'architectural movement' and we can list every development in Edinburgh this decade ;)
15

Buttress,

19/05/2009 09:37:09
Unlikely, he has no real style or ideals, it's just whatever fits the moment.
16

gpedin,

edinburgh 16/08/2009 18:45:54
You should take a look at the Missoni - its got lots of good ideas. Stop taking a pop because you can with no justification.

 

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