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Published Date:
18 September 2007
THERE was some relief in the mortgage crisis today as shares in stricken lender Northern Rock bounced back following the Government's promise to protect savers' cash.
Chancellor Alistair Darling was to chair a special committee of representatives of the Bank of England and the Financial Services Authority today to assess the impact of his intervention.

The talks were expected to be held at the Treasury late th
is morning, before Mr Darling gave his verdict on how effective his pledge to back the bank has been in calming savers' fears. Downing Street today also insisted Prime Minister Gordon Brown retained "full confidence" in Bank of England Governor Mervyn King, despite some criticism of his handling of the affair.

The Tories today described the Chancellor's intervention as "playing his last card". But the gamble appeared to have paid off, with Northern Rock's shares up by more than 11 per cent mid-morning and a drop in the number of worried savers queuing at branches to take money out.

Nobody was waiting outside the Edinburgh branch of Northern Rock on Castle Street today. In contrast, around 50 people queued at 7am yesterday, and hundreds waited to withdraw savings throughout the day.

Savers had been taking their cash out of the bank at the rate of £1 billion a day since the crisis broke on Friday last week.

Mr Darling's announcement yesterday followed huge falls in Northern Rock's share price, before it rallied today.

Shares in other banks had followed suit by mid-morning. Alliance & Leicester rose 25 per cent after its shares slumped by a third on Monday, while Bradford & Bingley climbed nine per cent, before dropping back slightly.

Mr Darling said: "Should it be necessary, we, with the Bank of England, would put in place arrangements that would guarantee all the existing deposits in Northern Rock during the current instability in the financial markets. This means people can continue to take their money out of Northern Rock. But if they choose to leave their money in Northern Rock, it will be guaranteed safe and secure."

Phil Hammond, the Tories' Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury, said : "The Government had no option but to act to restore calm to the markets. We are talking about real people here, their hopes and futures.

"The stability of the economy is the most important thing. The Conservatives have long warned of the dangers of building the economy on a mountain of debt.

"We need to restore confidence in the markets then take a long-term look at the way the regulatory system is structured. The Chancellor has played his last card with the guarantee he gave yesterday. People have now been given an absolute government guarantee - if that doesn't stabilise the situation, nothing will."

Lib Dem Treasury spokesman Vince Cable warned of a "near collapse" at Northern Rock which he said was "a product of greed and reckless gambling by over-paid executives; lax, indulgent banking regulations and a complacent Government".

In a full-page advertisement published in various national newspapers, Northern Rock chief executive Adam Applegarth said the company was "open for business as usual" today.

He wrote: "May I begin by offering our customers my sincere apologies for the anxiety and inconvenience that we have caused you.

"Today I want to make it emphatically clear to all Northern Rock customers that we are open for business as usual. We remain a well-managed company and continue to be a safe place for your savings, loans and mortgages."



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  • Last Updated: 18 September 2007 12:38 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Davey Smith,

18/09/2007 11:28:18

So the message has finally filtered through to the sheep on the high street. I can't believe some of these people are allowed to vote.

2

Kobi,

18/09/2007 11:35:56

How long before the first sob story of a pensioner who withdraws their life savings from NR, stuffs it under the mattress, and gets burgled?

3

Duncan in Edinburgh,

18/09/2007 11:37:01

#1 Indeed. Especially the wifey on the telly yesterday who said she had £750,000 in Northern Rock from "a property deal", and was now going to revert to "the old-fashioned method of keeping it under the mattress". D'oh.

4

John Knox for First Meenister,

High St, Embra 18/09/2007 11:39:00

I think some of these folks should be investing in fine wines instead. Visit my website for the best advice!
www.buckieforjakies.com

5

Ferry Resident,

18/09/2007 11:51:35

And how many of those that have withdrawn their savings have used it to pay off their Northern Rock mortgages and loans?

Panic merchants rule OK.

6

dethadol,

highlands 18/09/2007 12:23:52

#1 These are people who may have lost all or part of their pensions, partly as a result of Brown's Great Pension Raid, who may have been stung by the Great Equitable Life fiasco or whose endowment policies may only be set to pay out between half and two thirds of the promised amount after the Great Overselling Scandal. These people are not sheep but are right not to put too much trust in Brown, Darling and the Financial Sector. It is entirely reasonable to take sensible precautions.

7

Bob 2,

18/09/2007 12:27:29

Amazing how the Media can hype up a story,
get the Public in a Panic and then tell us don't panic!!!!

If the Northern Rock is short of cash, why is the Public through the Bank of England being asked to help them out...why aren't their shareholders being asked for the money to keep them up and running.

Will the Bank of England, "bail me" out when I can't get a loan at a rate that I want, don't think So.

Time the Banks got there house in order, and stop living beyond there means.

8

Bob 2,

18/09/2007 12:27:48

spot on No6

9

blackley,

18/09/2007 12:27:57

So what's going to happen if there are runs on other banks and institutions? Are the government going to underwrite them all?
What happened to the free market?

10

Märiö äntoinette,

18/09/2007 12:28:29

Where's the Entrepreneurial spirit ?

People coming out of Northern Rock should be mugged the minute they turn into Rose Street.

11

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington 18/09/2007 12:28:58

There's certainly been panic on the streets, but it's been that of the Chancellor, not the depositors.

The Chancellor has now guaranteed all banking deposits (according to the FSA head). This less than a week after both he and the head of the BofE stated that reckless banks and speculators would not be bailed out due to risks of moral hazard.

Those risks are not changed this week. Darling has effectively told banks that no matter how recklessly they lend in future, he will save them. That's an extremely reckless attitute to take with taxpayers' money at the very start of the bursting of a global credit bubble. Who knows what worse crises are waiting down the line.

Perhaps the very worst aspect though is that the Chancellor has fired his biggest gun when it was entirely unnecessary. Northern Rock has enough assets to pay every single depositor had it come to that. The only people saved by the Chancellor's actions are the people at the top of the bank and the shareholders who he last week pointed out needed to take heed of risk. I'd liken it to using a cannon to swat a gnat, but realistically it's more like using a nuke to swat a butterfly.

It is likely that Darling will need to use this guarantee again nefore the global credit crisis is over. Each time he uses it, it, and he, will seem weaker. Such extraordinary measures are always at their most effective at their first use precisely because they are used so sparingly. In being panicked into this, Darling has wasted crucial ammunition, has undermined Mervyn King's credibility, and has destroyed his own.

He proved today that he was the wrong man for the job.

12

Duncan in Edinburgh,

18/09/2007 12:30:24

#6 But the irony is that they are damaging themselves now. The fact that the Bank of England agreed loan arrangements with NR means that they are solvent. Therefore the savings were never at risk. These people will now incur withdrawal fees which they need not have paid, and may end up with worse interest rates wherever they move their money to. And the fact is that it is their own fault.

13

Duncan in Edinburgh,

18/09/2007 12:34:05

#11 I disagree. Darling has not given banks carte blanche for reckless lending, he has simply given the public the message that they don't need to withdraw their savings. These are two completely different things.

The reason he can do this is that NR's cash flow problems on the money market were just that - there is nothing wrong with NR's lending stock, nor their market capitalisation. And NR doesn't have half the exposure to sub-prime mortgages as other UK banks. These people's saving were always safe; the chancellor has not had to spend any money to guarantee them.

14

Kobi,

18/09/2007 12:34:28

#11

Well said.

#6

"It is entirely reasonable to take sensible precautions."

Having all your savings in one institution is not "sensible precautions" in the first place. Taking it all out and keeping it in cash ranks as complete stupidity. Putting it in smaller portions across a variety of investments and banks makes more sense.

15

dethadol,

highlands 18/09/2007 12:36:25

#12 Your'e falling into the trap of taking their assurances at face value. The Darling statement was scandalously lacking in detail.

16

Alexander,

Edinburgh 18/09/2007 12:46:34

15. dethadol
I suppose you believed like many Equitable Life & Standard Life customers in the mythical benefits of mutuality!

17

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington 18/09/2007 12:52:39

#13: cut it how you like but Darling has told the banks that no matter how careless they are with the funds of depositors, the taxpayer will make them good. That's not an incentive to be careful.

18

Duncan in Edinburgh,

18/09/2007 12:55:49

#17 It's not a good situation to be in, I grant you. But I think it is unreasonable to criticise the decision to make that statement when it has actually helped to ease the problem that it was trying to ease.

19

Märiö äntoinette,

18/09/2007 12:59:52

Its the historically correct response. It's not going to happen , but there's always the IMF if things continue to go bad.

Just look at that share price going up again when every bought NR at rock bottom.

20

dethadol,

highlands 18/09/2007 13:41:28

#16 Why not? Nationwide seem to be weathering this storm better than many of the "banks" that used to be mutuals.

21

Davey Smith,

18/09/2007 14:03:00

20

What would it take to convince you not to remove your money from that bank if you had it invested? A signed statement hand delivered by the Chancellor to your door? I accept some cynicism is healthy but are you not fooling yourself a little about how much risk the bank is in? Do you believe anything the goverment says?

22

11+failed,

the pans 18/09/2007 14:17:02

#20
At the first sign of a storm SL decided they needed to ditch mutuality. Had they seen sense 5 years earlier policy holders would have been much better off.
For EL they trumpeted mutuality until it was realised that the "benefits" didn't exist and they were paying out more than was coming in.
First squal for Nationwide and they may well discover the merits of PLC status. The number of "mutuals" is reducing every year many of them being taken by Nationwide on terms advantageous to Nationwide to bolster its reserves.

23

Neil Thomas,

South Lanarkshire 18/09/2007 15:43:05

1. Davey Smith / 12:28pm 18 Sep 2007

"So the message has finally filtered through to the sheep on the high street. I can't believe some of these people are allowed to vote."


...and some are allowed to have children.

24

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington 18/09/2007 15:44:59

The share price going up is more likely shorts covering than anything else. NR's business model is doomed. They'll be split up or taken over whatever happens from here.

My argument is that the Chancellor has wasted his biggest ammo and has given a gigantic hostage to the future in promising to effectively nationalise any bank that's in trouble.

That's of course particularly serious when nobody knows just how much trouble the banks are actually in.

25

Duncan in Edinburgh,

18/09/2007 15:56:16

#24 I agree that NR are ripe for a takeover; I doubt they would be split up because they really don't have much of a spread of business - which is one of the reasons why they have been particularly affected by the money market situation.

But the chancellor has not promised to "effectively nationalise any bank that's in trouble", and I don't see any way to draw that conclusion logically. He has acted in a difficult situation and has eased the problem. Had he not acted, and banks shares had continued to tumble while the run on NR dragged on, he would have been heavily criticised for failing to act. I think the coming weeks will show that this was a blip, albeit one which exposed the reality of the UK's banking system, and confidence will return.

Don't forget that our system does work. No major UK banks are in any sort of danger with assets, only with cash flow.

26

claudius,

18/09/2007 16:38:21

I urge everyone to buy shares in Northern Rock.
If a likely takeover goes ahead, the share price will rocket, and you could be "Quids in"
Now is the time to buy.

27

Bobby McDuff,

18/09/2007 16:40:58

#1-24. Would anyone like a cup of tea?

28

D Montgomery,

New York 18/09/2007 16:51:07

The real lesson of these events is that paper currency is going to continue to loose its value because of the fiscally irresponsible actions of the government (which as recent events evidence are now completely out of control). People should not be re-depostiting their cash or depositing it elsewhere. They should be buying gold!

29

claudius,

edinburgh 18/09/2007 16:58:49

I still say, for a short to medium term investment, buy shares in Northern Rock!

30

Neil Thomas,

South Lanarkshire 18/09/2007 17:07:43

29. claudius, edinburgh / 5:58pm 18 Sep 2007

"I still say, for a short to medium term investment, buy shares in Northern Rock!"

...if it's anything like Edinburgh Rock...forget it.

31

Neil Thomas,

South Lanarkshire 18/09/2007 17:08:40

why don't we plough shares into spears?

...I'll get my coat.

32

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington 18/09/2007 17:37:26

Duncan: the head of the FSA has confirmed that Darling will make good any losses to depositors at any bank. He's hardly going to do that without requiring assets from such banks. If that's not nationalisation then it'll do until it comes along.

33

Neil Thomas,

South Lanarkshire 18/09/2007 17:41:49

...up to 154 on the Scotsman...I'm off there.

34

ianpg,

Edinburgh 18/09/2007 18:46:12

What's all this nonsense about sheep.......blah, blah, blah, these people are quite right to 'move' their money.
Although the government is 'guaranteeing' the funds, just imagine how many forms you would have to fill-in and how long it would take to get your money returned. Our glorious civil service - not exactly paragons of expedited virtue - would drag this well into next year.
Why take chances, Northern Rock BS is now history - bet on it!

35

Scott_B,

18/09/2007 19:25:52

Just to be clear, the government has more debts than the Northern Rock, and has no money with which to guarantee anything. *WE* will be the ones footing the bill.

So the Northern Rock "experts" make sufficient ill-advised deals to get themselves into trouble. The government are happy to let this go on as long as it keeps inflating the house-price fueled credit binge. The Northern Rock savers don't take care to look after their money and see what their bank is doing with it.

So we have to pay to bail the lot out. Free markets? There's no such thing.

36

Miss Jean Brodie,

18/09/2007 19:57:22

So the chancellor promises to protect a select group of private savers with the peoples taxpayed money eh ?

Any bullturd to look good eh ?

37

Duncan in Edinburgh,

18/09/2007 20:18:35

#37 and others peddling the same nonsense - the point is that it will cost Mr Darling, the government, we taxpayers, whoever, absolutely nothing to make this guarantee - because there is simply no danger of money being unavailable to savers. The guarantee has been made only to savers of institutions who have agreed terms with the Bank of England. One of the fundamental requirements for a bank to be able to agree such terms is that they should have sufficient capital to meet the debts.

All the chancellor has done is take the fear out of the situation, and he has done so without risking a penny of taxpayer's money.

Thank goodness we still have the union, otherwise who knows what might have happened here.

38

Julian,

18/09/2007 22:04:12

#38 Duncan,

You may be partially right but isn't part of Northern Rock's capital in the form of people with mortgages (the debtors) whereas a large part of their debts are in the form of savers (the creditors).

So although their total assets exceed their total liabilities, if their assets aren't liquid and people all demand their money back at once then the government will have to pay out (or at least loan them the money to tide them over.

39

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington 18/09/2007 23:18:42

If I'd been a customer of Barings or BCCI, I'd be angry that my taxes were going towards a bailout for politically favoured banks when those funds weren't available to me when I needed them.

40

Duncan in Edinburgh,

19/09/2007 07:35:57

#40 Oh for goodness sake - what taxes? No money has been spent by the chancellor, and no money will need to be spent. Precisely none of your taxes are going towards a bailout for anyone. Why persist in portraying this as a cost to the taxpayer when it isn't? Seems like pure dishonesty to me.

41

Julian,

19/09/2007 21:38:10

#41 Duncan, you have completely ignored the point I made.

How can you say no money will be spent? Are you saying that the Northern Rock has enough money to pay out if all their deposit holders ask for their money? Surely vast sums of this money are tied up in mortgages and long term loans.


 

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