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Published Date:
10 November 2006
THICK clouds of smoke eclipsed the night sky over north Edinburgh as fire ripped through the original Telford College campus.
Firefighters on platforms doused water over the top of the building as flames leapt above it and smoke rose over the treetops. The second floor of the derelict building was completely destroyed.

The fire brigade said today they thought the fire had been started deliberately. Six crews battled the blaze until around 12.30am. Residents in the flats and cottages behind the south campus site on Crewe Road South watched in horror as sparks rained down on their street.

Neighbours in Fettes Village moved their cars further back away from the smouldering shards of debris which they feared might contain asbestos - fears the brigade later dismissed.

They complained that the demolition site was not properly secured and that youths had been breaking in regularly.

Fire crews responded to two separate call outs at the campus last night - the first to a rubbish fire at 6pm and the second in a derelict building half an hour later. It was the latest in a series of fires at the building on which demolition work began in the summer. Miller Homes plans to build 346 houses and flats on the site.

Councillor Kate MacKenzie, who lives in Fettes Village behind the campus, said residents were very worried that asbestos could have been released from the building.

She said: "The flames were something else and there were choking fumes at one stage. Residents are concerned because they have chunks of stuff falling and they are worried it could be asbestos from the 1960s building.

"I think there is a big issue that developers should keep sites secure. There seems to be no security on the site, as this is the third fire in as many weeks."

Trish Atkinson, chairwoman of the Fettes Village Association, which includes 63 flats and 38 cottages, said residents were concerned about the frequency of fires at the old college site.

She added: "I'm very worried because there was a fire there a week ago and they couldn't find out who it was. The first one was a deliberate fire in September."

Several people said they had seen gangs of youths at the back of the site. One woman, who did not want to be named, said: "I saw a group of about a dozen there two nights ago throwing fireworks over the fence into the site."

Fire brigade operations manager Frank White said: "We were called to two separate incidents last night. They were both possibly deliberate ignitions. One was a large quantity of rubbish adjacent to a large storage area for gas, which caused us some concern. The second was a now derelict building. There was a lot of smoke, and it was affecting nearby residents. The second floor was completely destroyed."

He said there had been wood and other flammable materials in the building, and they thought some one had entered it and set it alight.

He added: "As far as I'm aware, there was no asbestos in the part that was involved in the fire. There was no danger to residents."

He said another part of the building was undergoing asbestos removal, but this was about 50 metres away and was isolated and being controlled. Six appliances from Macdonald Road, Crewe Toll and Tollcross fire stations attended. Firefighters had been forced to evacuate from the building, as there was a danger of it collapsing, but no-one was injured.

A spokeswoman for Miller Homes said two security guards were employed at the site 24 hours a day. Demolition is expected to be completed by March next year.

The new Telford College campus, on the Granton Waterfront, was opened in September by Jack McConnell.

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  • Last Updated: 10 November 2006 2:33 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Asbestos
 
1

Zx,

Edinburgh 10/11/2006 12:19:47

Well , that's what happens when you leave a pile of wood ready to be lit and don't have security to keep the scally neds out....

2

Paul Voltaire,

www.paulvoltaire.spaces.live.com 10/11/2006 12:30:20

Such a target is far too tempting for vandals.

3

ka,

away from the fire 10/11/2006 12:49:44

On Crewe Road South, they feared for their health. In Fettes Village they feared for their cars.

4

MDM,

10/11/2006 13:05:17

Looks like the lessons from last weeks attempt weren't noted!

If at first you don't succeed......

Thankfully no one was injured as the relevant authorities chose to stand back and let 'them' have another go.

A number of years ago a derelict building was left to stand for ages until a couple of kids lost their lives in a fire - sure enough the building was demolished after the fire!

5

Duncan in Edinburgh,

10/11/2006 13:21:22

#3 Aye right. Or perhaps the responsibility lies with the people who set fire to it? Jeeez.

6

Susy,

Edinburgh 10/11/2006 13:25:37

this building is not owned by the council and as such they have no responsibility to make the site secure. The developers have a duty of care under the health and safety act to make any building site safe and secure.

Please get your facts straight before you start having a go at the Council.

7

Susy,

Edinburgh 10/11/2006 13:28:16

W #4 - this building is not owned by the council and as such they have no responsibility to make the site secure. This falls to the developers, who have a duty of care under the health and safety act to make any building site safe and secure.

Please get your facts straight before you start having a go at the Council.

8

Parking Inspector,

Telford College 10/11/2006 14:07:40

I have two things to say 'Bloody Council!'

9

paul the binman,

10/11/2006 14:24:27

What a riverting read,I cant wait until the movie comes out.Will Shirn Sean be cast as the fire chief on 111,000 per year ?

10

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10/11/2006 14:25:52
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11

Faye,

Scotland 10/11/2006 14:26:56

Stop the Council bashing here on this one. Start looking at the neds who set the place alight. Geeze some folks have lost the plot. Find the criminals and put them behind bars.

#4. Incredible that cars were more important or perhaps there might be a little bit of licence by the journalists!

12

Duncan in Edinburgh,

10/11/2006 15:13:26

I blame the Swans... the Swan Vestas.

13

Arthur,

10/11/2006 15:24:18

Yes whovever torched it is responsible, but will they be found. I doubt it.
What I cant understand is why Telford college gave it up, it was only built in the 70's hardly an old building
could they not have expanded without selling it?

Never liked it anyway, never learned much there anyway, and I was there while it was still new what a dump.

14

Concerned Citizen,

Edinburgh 10/11/2006 15:45:46

It would take more than 2 security guards to secure that site. I doubt that the CCTV was kept in working order.

The two security guards could not cope with a large group of youths roaming around the college and grounds.

Not the easiest of places to secure. Looks it but it ain't.

15

mv,

Edninburgh 10/11/2006 16:05:02

Let me see, description = Youths between 12-16, tracksuits, trainers, baseball caps and incoherrent speech! That should make the job to catch them a lot easier...maybe thats why they wear this uniform its makes it difficult to identify individuals!

16

hazel,

ex edinburgh 10/11/2006 17:37:17

Dont you think the contractors would prefer to have someone else demolish the building at no cost to themselves. They wont shell out for security if they know within a couple of months the local kids will destroy the place for them.

17

Yada,

10/11/2006 17:46:30

#5 MDM
Of course, nothing to do with the kids (three of them) all being on a site and in a building where they had no business to be.
And playing silly games with matches.
Tough on them and their families, yes. But let's put whatever blame there is for this exactly where it belongs.

18

Bien E. Bien,

10/11/2006 19:42:17

It is just over 4 years now since the old Dunfermline College (a.k.a. Moray House) was similarly destroyed by a mysterious fire. Both occupied prime sites in North West Edinburgh; the Telford College site may perhaps now also be ripe for an executive housing development.

If we give it long enough, perhaps the entire city will be razed to make way for condominiums.

19

Duncan in Edinburgh,

10/11/2006 20:01:01

#19 Well that's the last straw. As if we don't have enough to worry about without lorryloads of immigrant condoms arriving any minute. I blame the council.

20

Cassandra,

10/11/2006 20:29:26

#3 W - D'oh!
"The building was wideopen to it,the council should have to pay for the services needed not us afterall they should have secured their property"
a) It's not the Council's property, and
b) where do you think the council gets its money from? It gets it from us paying Council Tax. Or did you think the tooth fairy subsidises City of Edinburgh Council (mind you, I think the Council may think so! After all, as far as I know, the Tooth Fairy doesn't have a vote...).

21

Arthur,

10/11/2006 22:02:48

Here I wonder if Snowy the 4th floor technician got out in time, he was gettin on a bit

22

ric,

edinburgh 10/11/2006 22:10:02

Most of the council's money comes from central government, rather than council tax revenues. It's all tax though - council tax, national insurance, income tax, VAT, petrol taxes, inheritance tax, stamp duty, stamp duty reserve tax, corporation tax, capital gains tax, etc, etc, etc, etc.

As for the fire, I'm not surprised. The youths just run amok in the area. A bit of police presence on the streets might be an idea, rather than turning up in cars after the event.

23

Jayess,

Edinburgh EH9 13/11/2006 15:30:01

Hazel# 17. You have got it in one!
I have seen this happen time and time again. The usual pattern is that:-

First the top floor windows get broken (often beyond the reach of any youth's throw), and the pigeons and bad weather then get in to rot the floors, and start the rapidly spreading fungal decay.

That is followed by a few vandal attacks, to clearly establish a probable cause for the mystery fire, which sweeps through and destroys the place, so that the developer can move in and 'make it safe' by clearing the site in the public interest.

This generally smooths the way for planning consent as anything looks better than a burned out ruin, and there is nothing left then for any cookie conservationists to campaign for retaining.

24

Paranoid Underachiever,

Darkest Leith 15/11/2006 21:25:13

Brian Allaway deservesevery penny of his pay rise. I would gladly mortgage my house and sell all of my possessions just to pay his expenses.


 

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