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Published Date: 20 December 2007
JOHN COLLINS today sensationally quit as manager of Hibs – blaming the lack of resources available to strengthen the team.
The former Scotland star stunned chairman Rod Petrie with the news just 24 hours after helping open the club's £4.9 million state-of-the-art training centre. He took over the Easter Road hot seat barely 13 months ago.
QUIT: John Collins
QUIT: John Collins

It is understood Collins informed the board of directors at a meeting before heading to the new training ground to deliver the shock news to his players in person.

Collins unexpectedly tendered his resignation at a scheduled meeting of the Hibs Board today.
Afterwards, he told a packed Press conference at Easter Road his departure was down to the financial constraints he has been forced to work under.
He said: "I feel that I leave with the CIS Cup in the trophy cabinet, a fine set of young players, a great new training ground. During my time as manager we have brought in over £8.8million and paid out £360,000 in compensation (on new players].
"My reasons for resigning are that I feel I have taken the club under the current resources available as far as I can."
He added: "I came to the club 14 months ago and we've worked tirelessly, myself and the staff.
"There are lots of great memories, great matches but I felt that, at this moment in time, I couldn't take the club any further forward with the resources I had.
"Every football club has a budget and Hibs are no different I just felt that maybe it was the time to invest a little bit more in the team to take us forward.
"But I respect the board of directors, they've done a fine job.
"The club is in a great situation. The stadium is great, there's a wonderful training complex – it's been an amazing year for the club.
"The offers that have come in for players probably couldn't be refused, that's the reality of the situation but one thing it does is make my job harder.
"I love a challenge but I just came to the conclusion that I am a young, ambitious manager. I don't really like treading water but that's the job.
"There are high expectations and I'll be judged by many people. Some will say I've done a bad job. Some will say I've done a good job.
"I will always paint a pretty picture and say we've taken £8.8 million in transfers and we've invested £360,000 in compensation for players.
"We've won the CIS Cup and there are young players coming through the system again, another good group.
"Personally, I think we've punched above our weight – it's been a pleasure locking horns with the Old Firm."
Collins revealed that his dream would have been to seriously challenge the Old Firm at the top of the league.
And, asked if he thought he could have done that if the board had provided him with more transfer cash, he simply replied: "Who knows?"
Hibs chairman Rod Petrie said that the board had tried to work with Collins.

He said: "We sought to persuade John to stay on but unfortunately he has chosen to go.
"John's decision came as a surprise, and we made determined efforts to dissuade him and to work with him through the difficulties that are concerning him.
"We wish John and his family well and we thank him for his work at the club."

Collins resignation will send shock waves through the Easter Road support who had delighted in seeing a former player who had begun his glittering career at Hibs return to succeed Tony Mowbray as manager.

Within six months Collins and his assistant Tommy Craig had won the CIS Insurance Cup, Hibs first trophy in 16 years as they defeated Kilmarnock 5-1 in the final at Hampden.

But the celebrations of that day had hardly subsided before news of a player revolt within the Easter Road dressing room erupted.

Some 16 players were said to have visited chairman Petrie's house to inform him of their grievances, a move which was known to have infuriated Collins who was abroad at the time.

The matter was resolved when skipper Rob Jones issued a public apology on behalf of the players and it was thought that had brought the air of disharmony to an end.

Having seen Kevin Thomson, who had been stripped of the captain's armband by Collins, move on to Rangers in a £2 million transfer last January, a host of other stars headed for the Easter Road exit door.

Scott Brown went to Celtic for £4.5 million, Ivan Sproule to Bristol City for £450,000 while Chris Killen and Michael Stewart joined Celtic and Hearts respectively at the end of their contracts.

All in all some £10 million was pulled in via transfer fees but while new faces such as Brian Kerr, Alan O'Brien, Clayton Donaldson, Yves Ma-Kalambay were brought in as replacements. Many questioned whether they enjoyed the same talent as those who had left.

Hibs, however, confounded everyone by making a super charge start to the season, amassing 21 points from the first round of fixtures and briefly topping the SPL table.

But recently Hibs have managed just one win from their last eight games, the six points gained seeing them slip to 5th place in the table.

Nevertheless the timing of today's news, just 48 hours before the start of the hectic festive period in which Hibs will play both Celtic and Rangers, will bemuse many.

There was no hint from Collins when the Evening News spoke to him this morning as to the drastic action which was to follow nor, it is understood did Petrie or his fellow directors have an inkling of what was about to happen.

Recent speculation has linked Collins to the vacant position as Scotland manager since the departure of Alex McLeish.

However a Scottish Football Association spokesman stressed that Collins' resignation from Hibernian was entirely unconnected to the national team post.

Assistant manager Tommy Craig will remain at the club for the time being and take charge of the team for Saturday's trip to Parkhead.

Collins issued a statement this afternoon, saying: "I have resigned today with immediate effect from my role as manager of Hibernian Football Club.

"I would like to take this opportunity to wish Hibernian FC, the players, staff and backroom staff, Tommy Craig in particular, for their support during my time as manager.

"As a former player of Hibs it has been a great honour for me to be manager during this period when we won the CIS Cup, Hibs' first trophy for 16 years and have developed so many excellent young players."




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  • Last Updated: 20 December 2007 5:19 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: John Collins , Hibernian FC
 
1

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 13:26:14
Good riddance collins,
2

Jimmy Jam Tart,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 13:27:39
Please don't go Jonny!
3

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 13:28:12
This is a good xmas present i'd say.
maybe now we'll go forward.
4

just a jambo,

20/12/2007 13:28:12
God help us if he gets the scotland job,all the good work done will go up in smoke.
5

jambo_ree,

Penicuik 20/12/2007 13:30:01
Let's hope it doesn't stop Hibs playing the free flowing attacking flair football to which we have become accustomed.
6

Mr Crisps,

Haddington 20/12/2007 13:30:21
Lost a few games, cannae take it, cheerio Square Heid.
7

edinburgh teddy,

edin 20/12/2007 13:30:39
he won that cup with mobraws players ........ HIS signings have been woeful ....he walks into a scotland team which could now pick itself ...hes never been tested with HIS OWN PLAYERS FFS i can see us being alongside outer mongolia in the ratings in one year ...... he should have stuck to knitwear in the borders lol
8

Lord Psycho Sexy,

20/12/2007 13:30:43
Oh my sides can't bear it.

The manager merry-go-ground kicks off again at Easter Road.

What an utter shambles.
9

GrahamL,

20/12/2007 13:32:22
Interesting one, it didn't look like he'd handled the first rough patch of his managerial career particularly well, but to quit? Seems a bit extreme. Given how highly he held his principles, never breaking a contract and the like, it would seem out of character for him to quit Hibs when a bigger club came sniffing around.

All very strange. I wonder how this one will pan out?
10

Way Out West,

20/12/2007 13:32:54
Genuinely shocked at this news. Going by their early league form, Hibs were going places under JC and are very much in with a shout in the league, with the Scottish Cup still to play for. At least (unlike us) they shouldn't have any problems finding a decent replacement manager.

Don't be surprised, though, if JC is installed as the next Scotland boss. That's the only reason that I can think of for him leaving Hibs.
11

GrahamL,

20/12/2007 13:35:27
And, no, he can't be Scotland manager. Can he?
There is no way in the world we'll be successful if he's going to bring in his "pass at all costs" approach to the national team. We ain't good enough to take that approach, the big nations would have a field day!
12

Lord Psycho Sexy,

20/12/2007 13:36:30
No. 10

Don't be a plum, Hearts would have no problem sourcing a manager far superior to those interested in the job at E.R.

Unfortunately, however, our regime are not on the lookout for anyone.
13

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 13:36:55
Even without a manager we're better than the YAMS.
14

Lord Psycho Sexy,

20/12/2007 13:39:18

No. 13

Dry your eyes, you're now in freefall. I expect Hibs to be struggling against relegation by February.

This season has eerie comparisons to 1997/1998.

Lets have the same feat a decade on!

Hibs down with Hearts up, to collect the Scottish Cup.

15

Arnie,

Newington 20/12/2007 13:40:45
I heard Hibs are going to unveil a new management team of Squidward and Mr Krab
16

Randan,

20/12/2007 13:41:17
I was just getting used to the nickname Squareheid too, I really liked it.
How come hibbies who thought he was great are now saying he was duff? Oh I forgot, just the usual at Easter Road.
Please not the next Scotland manager, if so we are royally shafted!
17

Man of Reason,

20/12/2007 13:41:31
Let's hope he's not lined up for the Scotland job.

I would much prefer McGhee or even Souness to Collins - the national job needs someone with experience.
18

HMFC,

20/12/2007 13:41:48
I know he's thick but the Birmingham job's already taken.

LOL
19

Way Out West,

20/12/2007 13:41:58
#12

It's not that our regime aren't on the lookout for anyone, it's Vlad's baffling team orders and picking teams by fax that are putting prospective managers off.

If Petrie had tried this on with Collins, he would have been told in no uncertain terms where to go.
20

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 13:42:22
Let's remember in 1973 we are the only team to thrash bitterest rivals on there home ground 7 goals to nil.
this feat is unequaled anywhere in the world.

BACK TO COLLINS FAR TOO MANY DRESSING ROOM ARGUMENTS.
BRING ON MARK MAGEE.

WE ARE A HUGE CLUB GOING TO BETTER THINGS.
21

alex paterson,

embra 20/12/2007 13:43:35
Reckon he must have asked for money to bolster the team and got a KB,so high in the league and the boss walks,a wee bit iffi.
22

East at Easter,

Irish Musselburgh 20/12/2007 13:44:26
This is good news for all Hibernian. He has no respect from a lot of the staff and we were in a sinking ship anyway (thank god we had a good start to the campaign), players weren't bothered and we were slipping down the SPL. Now there are 3 top managers to select from. Hughes, Davis, McGhee. Has to be one of those Petrie. Good riddence Collins. Wimp. Take your 6 pack up Arthur Seat and shove it !
23

edinburgh teddy,

edin 20/12/2007 13:45:09
thanks spongebob ma wee mate DODE DOLAN is in tears .....mind you hes got three season tickets to dry his eyes with ....im now on the flair uncontrollable....wait till we hear the reasons ....omfg
24

The Jambo,

20/12/2007 13:46:15
~20. Mcgee will not go to a smaller club.
We have a far better club record than you.
4-0 in a Scottish cup semi, EASY.
22 in a row.
7-0 great!!!
Gutted hes away though.
Wonder who will come in.
Hope it is not Robbo.
25

Pedantic_Hibee,

20/12/2007 13:47:00
Funny feeling it's the Scotland job or potentially Fulham he's after.

Regardless, I for one am sorry to see him go but looking at it objectively, what with all the rumours you hear from day to day, it might, might be in the best interests of all concerned.

Step forward Yogi or Mark McGhee.

To all the bitter little Jambos on here....have fun. If it deflects the attention away from the circusesque goings on at Tynie then knock yourselves out.
26

Lord Psycho Sexy,

20/12/2007 13:47:38
No 20

Would you rather go 39 games unbeaten with an embarrassing slip up in the middle or win a fluke game from 35 years ago?

You're making yourself look a little silly.
27

edinburgh teddy,

edin 20/12/2007 13:48:40
am tippin john hughes will have hibs playing FAST FREE FLOWING FOOTBALL or did spongebob do that or was it mowbray ....turnbull !!??????? sorry im lost hee heee
28

edinburgh teddy,

edin 20/12/2007 13:48:46
am tippin john hughes will have hibs playing FAST FREE FLOWING FOOTBALL or did spongebob do that or was it mowbray ....turnbull !!??????? sorry im lost hee heee
29

Mug,

20/12/2007 13:48:57
Yogi or Mark Mcghee, has to be Petrie!!

Probably a good thing Collins leaving, Hibs are murder just now and dont look like improving unless there was a major change
30

Lord Psycho Sexy,

20/12/2007 13:49:13
No 25

Circusesque. Yep, a word which accurately describes the current goings on at E.R.

31

edinburgh teddy,

edin 20/12/2007 13:49:18
am tippin john hughes will have hibs playing FAST FREE FLOWING FOOTBALL or did spongebob do that or was it mowbray ....turnbull !!??????? sorry im lost hee heee
32

Pedantic_Hibee,

20/12/2007 13:49:23
#24

Can you honestly see any manager walking into Tynecastle ?

"Hi, yes, you'll be head coach, no problem......but....you won't name the team, or sign anyone, or be allowed to sell anyone. I'll handle that. I'll let you muck around with tactics once I've named the team and pre-ordained the subs though. Yours, Vlad."

Give yourselves a shake.

It's laughable that the above find it funny that we don't have a manager. Last I was aware, you sacked your last one a long time ago for leading you to the top of the table, playing the best football in years and sweeping all before them.
33

Lord Psycho Sexy,

20/12/2007 13:49:40
No 25

Circusesque. Yep, a word which accurately describes the current goings on at E.R.

34

Mug,

20/12/2007 13:49:43
Yogi or Mark Mcghee, has to be Petrie!!

Probably a good thing Collins leaving, Hibs are murder just now and dont look like improving unless there was a major change
35

Pedantic_Hibee,

20/12/2007 13:50:08
#24

Can you honestly see any manager walking into Tynecastle ?

"Hi, yes, you'll be head coach, no problem......but....you won't name the team, or sign anyone, or be allowed to sell anyone. I'll handle that. I'll let you muck around with tactics once I've named the team and pre-ordained the subs though. Yours, Vlad."

Give yourselves a shake.

It's laughable that the above find it funny that we don't have a manager. Last I was aware, you sacked your last one a long time ago for leading you to the top of the table, playing the best football in years and sweeping all before them.
36

Mug,

20/12/2007 13:50:14
Yogi or Mark Mcghee, has to be Petrie!!

Probably a good thing Collins leaving, Hibs are murder just now and dont look like improving unless there was a major change
37

Mug,

20/12/2007 13:50:16
Yogi or Mark Mcghee, has to be Petrie!!

Probably a good thing Collins leaving, Hibs are murder just now and dont look like improving unless there was a major change
38

edinburgh teddy,

edin 20/12/2007 13:50:27
am tippin john hughes will have hibs playing FAST FREE FLOWING FOOTBALL or did spongebob do that or was it mowbray ....turnbull !!??????? sorry im lost hee heee
39

edinburgh teddy,

edin 20/12/2007 13:50:29
am tippin john hughes will have hibs playing FAST FREE FLOWING FOOTBALL or did spongebob do that or was it mowbray ....turnbull !!??????? sorry im lost hee heee
40

The Jambo,

20/12/2007 13:50:35
At least you can still watch him in his cartoon.
41

SunRacalling,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 13:51:03
Collins didn't leave - he's been told to sling the hook!Looks like Rod finally got fed up of the JC spin, being late for everything, arrogance so far in excess of talent it was astounding, the dullest football at ER for a long time, not an inch of improvement in our play, no senior players being able to stand the management and so Rod has left JC with no option. Now finish the job and get TC and Gordon Marshall out the door. And Rod, the next appointment is the most important you will ever make - SO GET IT RIGHT!!
42

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 13:52:08
Maybe hibs will tout, nah dont think we'll bother,

s-frail hahahahahahaha.
43

SunRacalling,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 13:52:32
Collins didn't leave - he's been told to sling the hook!Looks like Rod finally got fed up of the JC spin, being late for everything, arrogance so far in excess of talent it was astounding, the dullest football at ER for a long time, not an inch of improvement in our play, no senior players being able to stand the management and so Rod has left JC with no option. Now finish the job and get TC and Gordon Marshall out the door. And Rod, the next appointment is the most important you will ever make - SO GET IT RIGHT!!
44

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 13:52:54
Maybe hibs will tout, nah dont think we'll bother,

s-frail hahahahahahaha.
45

Northern Hibby.,

20/12/2007 14:00:56
Time for Rod Petrie to show what he is made of. The appointment of Mowbray did not go down too well but was a great success. Collins has not really worked. No denying we have lost a lot of quality but I would have rather had three decent players in even if it had meant transfer fees, as opposed to the mediocre lot that only he believed were better than we had. Joneleit can't get a place as he is not used to the scottish game half way through a year long loan? Waste of cash. Gathessui would struggle in the juniors. Waste of cash. Kerr has been told that he is a first pick no matter what. Waste of cash. Makalamity...[ read Kerr]. Morais. Waste of cash. O'Brien. Waste of cash. More bad than good. New Manager, new players, new ideas. Bin plans for developing the East Stand and develop what is on the pitch first.
46

Bigwull,

edinburgh 20/12/2007 14:02:53
NO 20
It's funny how you have the worst derby record in top flight football tho isn't it?
Mind you 1 trip to Tranent and I'd be offski too
47

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 14:05:35
# 25 Pedantic_Hibee

Please name the managers that have been sacked at Hearts, you will, I think, like most Hibs fans, be hard pressed to name them.

Pub Quiz: Which foreignowner of a Scottish league club has sacked 8 managers in the past three years????????

48

Rambo_the_Jambo,

4-0 at Hampden 20/12/2007 14:07:33
# 20 Hibs fc,

Do you actually EVER have anything original or sensible to say about anything?????

You really are an idiot.
49

SunRacalling,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 14:08:04
So predictable - JC already telling press that lack of cash is reason for going! He gets the job by saying he dosen't need cash - lots of 'contacts abroad' gets more money to spend than TM got - we paid for Kerr! and a salary three times TM - makes a mess of it and still SPINS -!
50

The Jambo,

20/12/2007 14:08:07
~33.
I never even mentioned about our Manager.
I stated that Mr Mcgee will not join a SMALLER CLUB than his current club Motherwell.
We know we do not have a manager.
51

exile-lad,

Easter Road 20/12/2007 14:08:25
i hope he takes rod peetree too the chairman..... himself is to blame in all of this always letting our players go west .......we have a good support and money is there ........but he is too affraid to gamble whilst we had tony mowbry we could have done something but no whilst ROD PEETREE is there we lack ambition...No doubt collins is going to be the nest scotland manager more lies from him ..JUDAS
52

Brown Dirt Cowboy,

St.Andrews 20/12/2007 14:09:28
John Collins is going to Celtic Park.
53

exile-lad,

20/12/2007 14:09:57
33 mcliesh left motherwell to come to hibs and we were bottom .....then ..hibs are a good club thats why
54

The Jambo,

20/12/2007 14:10:14
I bet any article on Hearts today is not being commented on by Hibs fans.That will be a first.
You actually have something to talk about in about the last 6 months.
Hence we all fancy commenting today.
55

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 14:11:40
#5 bamby the jambo BE LIKE YOU LAD EH.
BRAINDEAD SPECIMEN,
FACT = WE ARE AND ALWAYS BEEN BIGGER TEAM THE YAMS.
56

edinburgh teddy,

edin 20/12/2007 14:12:25
#42 fn brill am on the flair lol
57

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 14:20:32
maybe JC saw the new training centre and refused to use the new showers since soap on a rope has been banned from the Hibs changing room.

HAHA pay back time for all the silly jokes about hearts new sponsor you lot all made the other day...ever heard the saying what goes around....

a team in freefall that sells all there players to the old firm. Maybe JC got sick of training OF players and decided he'd be better of actually at one of the old firm.
58

Rick O'Shea,

all over the place 20/12/2007 14:20:47
All together now.... 'WE NEED A MANAGER'
59

Ian Ross,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 14:21:31
Hearts managers sacked :
Alex MacDonald
Tommy Walker
etc, etc

More managers than Royal Mail (and that is saying something!)

Why on earth would McGhee want to leave a club on the up ? Certainly not if he has any sense. John Hughes maybe. How about McLaren ? He is out of a job at the moment!
60

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20/12/2007 14:26:21
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
61

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 14:26:45
Don't know what has caused this, but I for one am disappointed. He was never given a chance and the rats who started all the trouble and caused us to miss out on a SC final (and a European place) should hang their heads in shame. He was doing a reasonable job and in time I'm sure he would have been successful He will go on to be a good manager elswhere. It's our loss.
62

GrahamL,

20/12/2007 14:29:28
Got to be Hughes to replace JC surely? Ex Hibs player, got his team playing decent football? Seems the perfect fit.
63

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 14:30:39
Have it on good authority that he left because the board would not give him money for players in January. Petrie claimed that all the money went on the new traing centre and Collins just had enough and resigned.
64

jambo_ree,

Penicuik 20/12/2007 14:31:25
How about getting Sauzee back? That was hilarious.
65

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 14:33:29
Hibs FC you really are a dilluded fool.

Shall we compare domestic honours to see who the most successfull club is, or shall we compare who has played in europe most. or shall we compare derby victories over each other, or league positions at the end of the season since the clubs were founded. All of which you will find We have a better record.

And lets not forget if it wasn't for Heart of Midlothian you lot wouldn't even exsist. 1928 the scottish league wanted hgibs kicked out because they would only field catholics. It was Hearts that fought for for you lot to be kept in. And in doing so played 12 illegal games against you lot. Dont ever forget that.
66

Rick O'Shea,

20/12/2007 14:34:13
#71 not a dig, I assure you. You have been shouting for a manager, now we Hibbys are. Who do you think will acquire one first? Sensible answer only please.
67

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 14:39:05
I can't reveal my sources, but I've got it from good authority that the reason john Collins resigned was
68

Pedantic_Hibee,

20/12/2007 14:39:18
Yogi.

Has to be Yogi.
69

Pedantic_Hibee,

20/12/2007 14:39:50
#78

Laughed my head off at Lavety there!!

Top marks for ingenuity!!!
70

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 14:40:50
# 66

And A big hello back!!! nice to know you are thinking about all the hibees over the festive period........sorry dreaming about us.....i for one am glad to see the back of the little san tropez boy, i heard we are now going to build a massive state of the art stadium.......attract best quality players......and win the champions league!!!!!!!! guffaw guffaw

do you think we could get petrie to pick our team this weekend......naw that's the other team in edinburgh the wee team
71

Hibslad75,

20/12/2007 14:41:15
now to get in a manager who knows how to built up team confidence and get them playing attacking football which we were not getting with collins. least we'll end up seeing european football unlike the hearts this season who sit now at 8th and will be struggling to reach top 6
72

murphy's law,

20/12/2007 14:41:24
I think if Billy Davies doesn't get the nod from the SFA he will be the man to come in. We need a bit of passion and someone who can get some spirit among the players because on Saturday they just looked despondant! Not a good time to leave us JC, just before the festive period but could you please take your humpty signings with you!
73

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 14:42:00
Has to be davie dodds.
Only he can better the monkey heid and square heid for look haha
74

Broxburn_Jambo,

20/12/2007 14:42:30
Good riddance to Sponge Bob, he found out that half the Hibs team will be sold in January with no money for replacements and walked. Ha ha.
75

Davieboy,

20/12/2007 14:42:32
Losing Collins is a blow to Hibs and Scottish football.
For one he is Scottish and is still very much an athlete, something he tried to install into the Hibs team. A big problem with Hibbs and the rest of Scottish football is far to many players like the bevy to much.
76

Rick O'Shea,

20/12/2007 14:42:36
#78 Don't see the fax getting a mention!!!
77

GrahamL,

20/12/2007 14:44:17
Quick poll of the Hibs fans here.

When you first heard this news, was your immediate thought:
a) Oh no, he would have turned it around in the end.
b) Thank God, we were going nowhere with him incharge
c) I dont cayre, as longas weer no as bad off as THE YAMS thats all I wory aboot
78

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 14:46:11
The reason Collins left is that Petrie is the one that has been picking the team AND the substitutes AND the tactics, since Collins arrived ... JC just had enough of the humiliation.

- that's why 16 of them went to RP's house - they were all asking to be on the team sheet.
79

Rick O'Shea,

20/12/2007 14:48:30
#90 I dont cayre, as longas weer no as bad off as THE YAMS thats all I wory aboot

mi god man yoor spellnig is ae rite mes isit noe
80

Rick O'Shea,

20/12/2007 14:49:26
#92 good one bud!
81

SouthSideHibs,

20/12/2007 14:49:27
#90

B!

Don't believe this guff about walking cos there was no money to spend in january. Chocolate Jonny had upset too many people IMO.
82

Rambo_the_Jambo,

4-0 at Hampden 20/12/2007 14:49:38
58 Hibs fc,20/12/2007 14:11:40
#5 bamby the jambo BE LIKE YOU LAD EH.
BRAINDEAD SPECIMEN,
FACT = WE ARE AND ALWAYS BEEN BIGGER TEAM THE YAMS.

Exaclty as I said. One dead brain cell, and yet you breathe, go back to bed you silly little Fu--er
83

Rambo_the_Jambo,

4-0 at hampden 20/12/2007 14:52:05
# 64 Ian Ross,Edinburgh

Managers sacked by Romanov is what the point was.
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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 14:52:06
90 GrahamL - I thought - Oh No !! Six pack was hilarious and an accident waiting to happen. Don't go Choc Johnny.

I bet now hibs will get someone in that will treat the players with respect and get them to work for him.....not a good scenario for us....but good for the hibees, so good luck to them.

I think they should try their hardest to get Yogi - he's a Leith boy that seems like a straight forward kind of guy that the hibs players will trust.
85

All Laugh Son,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 14:52:28
Flecther was seen at Parkhead today...
86

SouthSideHibs,

20/12/2007 14:52:43
Can we all not just ignore Mixu and his alter ego Hibsfc today?

This is a belter of a story - not in the same league as the Burley story but still intriguing.

I've just heard that he left because he's
87

Rick O'Shea,

20/12/2007 14:54:13
#101 thank god it wasn't Fletcher!
88

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 14:54:21
don't think there was as many posts when hearts last changed thier manager.......sorry sporting director........sorry head coach........sorry 1st team supervisor.........team leader??????

more people through that office than gorgie post office on giro day
89

Hibslad75,

20/12/2007 14:55:04
97
what you on about, you sit 8th in the table with a guff team! no signs of top 6 for yams this season
90

Davieboy,

edinburgh 20/12/2007 14:56:49
Losing Collins is a blow to Hibs and Scottish football.
For one he is Scottish and is still very much an athlete, something he tried to install into the Hibs team. A big problem with Hibbs and the rest of Scottish football is far to many players like the bevy to much.
91

Hibees forever,

Portobello 20/12/2007 14:58:01
thanks god has collins has gone, no motivational skills and sitting behind the dugout I see firsthand how he hasnt got a clue when it comes to setting his team up. This is no joke that he changes things based on what the fans behind him tell him to do!! i am serious on that, numerous times its happened this season.

please, please NOT yogi for next manager!! are you insane!!

it has got to be mark mcghee!
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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 14:58:25
of course the cruel twist will be that Vlad has taken notice of the rumblings around Tynie, and he's tapped up Johnny C to be his new manager....I couldn't handle that...its bad enough with having a fax machine and the three wise men (hear no evil, see no evil and speak no evil) on the case.
93

Pedantic_Hibee,

20/12/2007 14:59:00
#101

Wake up.
94

Ninian Reid,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 14:59:04
This is as big a shock/surprise as Kenny Richey getting home for Christmas.
95

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 14:59:52
BAMBI-THE-JAMBO YIR A BLAW SON.

NUHIN BIT A BLAW.
96

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 14:59:56
#112 did he play for morton?
97

Brown Dirt Cowboy,

St.Andrews 20/12/2007 15:02:49
Put your hard earned on Yogi for Leith.
98

Rick O'Shea,

20/12/2007 15:02:55
#114 naw that was Rich tea
99

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 15:07:26
I know ive posted a few wind ups and apologise to the decent hibs fans as there are a few it's the imbiciles like hibs fc, that give everyone a bad name, and to be honest theres a few hearts fans the same.

Joking aside for a minute, Ive just been told from a good hibs friend of mine who called me after id sent him a txt on the wind up, that the reason JC left was because he is aware of at least 3 hibs players that will possibly be sold in January (Murphy) being one of them. He had asked Petrie for available funds and was told theres none, all the money went on the new training academy. Ma mate is fumin and i can understand why, just like a lot of other hibs fans will be outraged.

wasn't the money already in place for this academy before the sale of brown and co. hibs have raked in something like 9million in transfer fees in the past 18 months- 2 years. your debt was only standing at something like 2-3 million 2 years ago (Correct me if im wrong about those figures) and its cost 4.5 million for this academy. Which would still leave a + balance, and thats not even taking into account season ticket revenue, merchandise revenue, cup and tv revenue etc.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

20/12/2007 15:07:32
Interesting.

Although you can understand why he didn't last long, after all how on earth can you expect Scottish footballers to actually put some effort into physical exercise? I mean, the indignity of it all, having to train for up to ten hours a week for the paltry sum of a few grand a week. I reckon he's just got fed up working with a bunch of workshy neds.

He'll make a good manager somewhere eventually, probably not in the UK, but at the moment this is better news for Hibs than it is for Hearts.
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Jam Tarts 1874,

In Hysterics 20/12/2007 15:09:45
Two managers in 12 months due to the hibs' board's lack of ambition, well done Petrie and Farmer!

Transfer fees in: £8.8m, transfer fees out: £360k. hibs fans should protest immediately and get the board out! No chance of that though, no backbone. I bet Fletcher regrets signing that contract now.

Does the "famous" hibs youth policy include producing a new manager from the under 19's? Ho! Ho! Ho! Happy Christmas you bunch of scroogies!

102

Grierson_Green,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 15:10:45
You missed me out in 66 - obviously haven't annoyed you enough. Thought you didn't come on Hibs threads and slag.

WE NEED A MANAGER
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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 15:13:35
119 Gorgie's Finest - I think the balance went to Tom Farmer for interest payments?

Spaeking of decent hibs fans, where's Lenny these days - is he playing hard to get or what? I'm sure he was a big fan of John Collins? Wonder if he's crushed about six pack flying away like the moths in petrie's wallet?!
104

Londonsteve,

Upton Park Bubble 20/12/2007 15:16:56
No doubt there is more to come out on this. In the meantime, lets go for Yogi Hughes.
105

LibbyHibby,

20/12/2007 15:17:58
Don't know why there's such a big clamour for McGhee as manager - he's only been back in the Scottish game for half a season - see what he's like in two years when the others figure out how to play against them.

Whilst sad JC is leaving performances have been poor and loyalty to certain players was never returned on the field and it's not a great surprise.

Personally think Billy Davies would not be interested which leaves just Big Yogi whose Falkirk side always play the game the right way as the best Scottish choice.

There is sure to be interest from South of the Border as well - would love to see Bristol City's Gary Johnson at ER but again unlikely.
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SEE YOU JONNY,

SUMERIA 20/12/2007 15:19:36
Collins is leaving due to there being no money to invest in the squad. Hertz twatz on here are just delighted that its not thier pathetic excuse for a pub team thats making news. One thing for sure though is we will appoint a new manager soon, unlike the great unwashed from gor-gay
107

GrahamL,

20/12/2007 15:21:51
#122 Presumably not. As has been pointed out by many Hibs fans in the past, the most important thing is the club not going bust. By the sound of it JC was wanting the board to actually spend some money on players, and who knows what that could have done to their finances!
108

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 15:22:42
#124 Hi Taras
You're right. The Hibs fans and other keep telling us were blinkered and cant see romanovs intentions etc etc. Maybe its about time they took their own blinkers off and realised that farmer and his (puppet) petrie are fleecing the fans and the club. Only differance between Hearts and hibs being run is farmer and petrie dont pick the team (Although going on recent results and JC's departure today that could yet come out they were lol) Farmer by his own admission has no interest in football or Hibs for that matter, He only bought them because a relative (Might have been his father) was a hibs fan, and didnt want to see them going out of business. Petrie is lining his own pockets has to be as well as farmer because there is no-where else this profit is going, Where's hibs new stand quick to have a go at romanov for his papering over the cracks news stories about a new stand, however as i believe the permission for hibs building work will run out sooner rather than later, and they are no further forward.
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Pedantic_Hibee,

20/12/2007 15:29:27
#122 RSE

I'm sad to see him go. I agree it might be in the best interests for all concerned but I backed him all the way, even forgiving his rotation policy at times and a couple of bizarre decisions.

All he wanted was a squad of players that lived, ate and trained properly. It's a culture that's alien to most in Scotland. Granted, he went about some things in the wrong way but his intentions were good.

What Hibs need now is a manager who won't use the club as a stepping stone to the Old Firm, much like the players do and to an extent, I think Mowbray and Collins would have.

The man to take us forward is Yogi Hughes. Great emphasis placed on work rate, his team play good football, he wants them to get stuck in, he's very astute in the transfer market (loan signing of an unheard Anthony Stokes for one) and above all, he's a dyed in the wool Hibs fan and would cherish the job if he were offered.

There's no denying managing Hibs is high on his list of ambitions.

Give it to a Hibs man who wants success.

Put it this way, I can't see anyone revolting against him that's for sure....he'd snap anyone in half if they even dared!!
110

Pedantic_Hibee,

20/12/2007 15:31:13
Forgot to add....even though he can't speak a word of English, I'd still give it to Yogi!
111

ArabHibbee,

St Madoes 20/12/2007 15:31:32
Can't say I'm sorry to see that Collins is offski but some of the names being bandied about as the next prospective manager scare the pants off me!! It does make you wonder about Kenny Richey though??!!
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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 15:33:54
I know what you mean #130 Gorgie's Finest, its possibly a hard truth that the hibees need to face up to; they are being scammed - thats maybe why Choc Johnny bailed?

Mind you, he was a square peg in a round HOLE !!
113

Dood,

20/12/2007 15:38:20
Firstly, sad that it didn't work out. Happy however that JC has left, Hibs have looked out of sorts for some time now and it would appear that he has lost the dressing room. Count me in on the Yogi bandwagon.

Secondly, #130. What planet are you on exactly? I suspect that everything so far promised by the Hibs board is being delivered. Debt nearly eradicated, new (owned) training complex up and running, home grown players coming through and stadium completion plans announced. What promises have been kept across town recently? CL football? Blah blah blah....

As for Petrie and Farmer lining their wallets, would you care to evidence this from the club accounts? I suspect not.
114

Rambo_the_Jambo,

4-0 at Hampden 20/12/2007 15:42:10
# 113 Hibs fc,

Judging by the spelling and grammar, looks like the fix is starting to take effect.
115

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 15:46:33
#131. Agree with everything you say. Never understood what he saw in Kerr, but that apart, I though he was doing a good job and would have taken the team forward. However, he has had no financial backing from the board and we are likely to see Murphy and Boozy go soon as they board will not improve their wages. Would not be surprised to see him at Fulham soon. He will succeed wherever he goes
116

hibsfan,

portsmouth 20/12/2007 15:50:30
This season (yet Again) I have travelled up to Edinburgh on numerous occassions and even up to Inverness from Portsmouth just to watch HIBS. All along all I have ever wanted is a team that at least tries, Just think how it feels driving all the way back down south and the team you love ain't even bothered to try.
I have never and never will blame any manager for this because lets be honest, all the manager can do is field a team that is on our books or who wants to sign for us. If the board have no sight to spend money on wages or transfer fees then how can you blame the manager. Again can we blame the board for turning the fortunes of our club around. The board has done a magnificent job getting rid off the debt, new training facilities and Even getting a few pounds for players when others have left at the end of contracts for nothing.
Unfortunately, we have and always will be a selling club ( unless a miracle happens and I win the Euro lottery.) But if my memoury serves me right we shelled out £750.000 for Del A Cruz and then doubled our money when we sold him to Aston Villa. Now surely the board should be able to take 1 or 2 gambles with some cash on players as we have pulled in £10 million.
Now the board must get the right man in and not a YES MAN and at least Back him. Remember we are a club that has just bought and developed our own state of the art training ground and surely this will pay divideneds but we still need players that the young kids coming through can learn from.
Again 1 for the board to think about, As much as you have done for the club( and there have been many positives) the fans have stayed loyal and all we want is a team that can challange in the top have (I.E. go to INVERNESS and at least let the fans think we might get a goal) Please do not rush into any stupid signings and at least when you do sign someone, give them some money. Think of all those fans that where at Hampden for the final against Kilmarnock, even think further back whe
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Taras Shevchenko,

Johnny C. Goode .........Riddance 20/12/2007 15:50:52
Deep down Lochend city close to the ER scene
Way back up in the woods among the evergreens
There stood a football stadium made of earth and wood
Where worked a borders boy named Johnny C. Goode
Who never ever learned to manage a club so well
But he could show us all his abs just like a ringing a bell

Go go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Johnny C. Goode

He used to carry his black list of players in a gunny sack
Go sit beneath the tree by the Ormiston track
Oh, Rod Petrie would see him sitting in the shade
Crying with the rhythm that leaving players made
All the Hibees passing by they would stop and say
Oh my that little borders boy looked gay

Go go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Johnny C. Goode

His mother told him "Someday you will be a man,
And you will be the leader of a BIG team band.
Many people coming from miles around
To see the flair flow football till the sun go down
Maybe someday your name will be in lights
Saying Johnny C. Goode Riddance tonight."

Go go
Go Johnny go
Go go go Johnny go
Go go go Johnny go
Go go go Johnny go
Go
Johnny C. Goode
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Fergal,

20/12/2007 15:51:48
Incoming fax from VLAD.............. Great news from Easter Road. This will keep all the beLIEving fools occupied until after New Year, shred that planning application immediately.
Renew the ink cartridge more instructions to follow.
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Grierson_Green,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 15:53:12
Gorgie's Finest (2 words that can't really be related).
How you can even think of Sir Tom Farmer and Romonov in the same paragragh is outrages.
Sir Tom has done wonders for HFC and for Edinburgh communities/charities etc while trying to keep out the limelight.To say he is 'fleecing the fans and lining his own pockets' is absolutly obsurd and you should be ashamed of yourself. Obviously because you support Hearts you have a downer on him because he saved Hibs from the 'fat Tory bastar*. He is actually getting an interest in football and has been fantastic for Hibs.

Go bury your head in the sand and BELIEVE in Romonov - best of luck and merry Xmas.

120

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 15:53:44
we are still 10 times bigger club than yams!!
always av been always will be!!
you lot be content wif frail!!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
8th
8th
8th
121

hibee4life,

20/12/2007 15:54:19
cheerie bye ya plank sick of ure team selections anyway YOGI IN!!!!!!!!
122

Naeboz,

20/12/2007 15:55:59
Hibs should go for continuity and appoint another muppet with a funny shaped heed. Step forward Yogi!
123

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 15:56:58
PETRIE TO BLAME NOT COLLINS.
PETRIE GO NOW.
PETRIE OUT.

WE ARE STILL 10 TIMES BIGGER CLUB THAN THE GORGIE MISFITS!!

ALWAYS HAVE BEEN !!
ALWAYS WILL BE!!
124

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 15:58:13
144 QUESTION - HOW YOU NAE BOZ WHAT APPENED 2 THEM,
R U A BURD..
125

Roscoe P Coltrane,

20/12/2007 15:59:43
#142 - 10 times bigger.

Rolling around on the 'flair' again.......

How the f*ck do you come to that conclusion you moronic tw@t? Do you even think before opening your mouth? Do you even think? Ever?

Even fellow Hibbies (as distinct from Hobos) think you're an ar$e.

Anyway, we'll see over the next few days whether JC really left due to lack of money or whether he's off to play with the Phoney Pharoh at Phulham.
126

Aye Right...,

20/12/2007 16:04:40
It was the wacky hairdo and his nasaly speech impediment that got me... What a donkey! He was brilliant for Hibs though..
127

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 16:06:27
make your mind up hibs fc....who's to blame....stick to your guns.....collins......
1) lost the dreesing room
2) tatctics garbage 3-5-2 to 4-4-2 to 5-4-1
3) won't play any players that Mowbray signed
4) Too arrogant to take crticism
5) Extremely poor signings
6) Non continuous team selection
7) must be on a bung for signing O'Brien and Kerr

BYE BYE J.C........(although you still get into my hibs top team, but certainly not as manager)
128

hibs6207,

20/12/2007 16:11:47
great to see the scumbo filth from the big pink bus shelter posting their usual lowlife comments.glad hes gone weve been rubbish for weeks,another year under collins and we would have been as bad as the vermin from gorgie.still life could be worse we could be jambos.god bless the hibees.
129

YOH!,

20/12/2007 16:18:26
I'm a Jambo and all I can say is at least Collins had the guts to walk away when decisions on what he wants to do with his team are taken out of his hands.
130

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 16:21:07
HE, john collins told sky sports that some of the players going to parkhead on saturday are earning only £350 per week,

131

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 16:25:03
just noticed the mothball and his 200 or so p@sh posts on hibs thread,
braindead i'd say,
yip braindead.
duns rule, ollie ollie give us a wave.

ding-ding
132

Taras Shevchenko,

Nostradamus like predictions R Us 20/12/2007 16:27:53
#155 no doubt the decision for Collins to leave was about money - either his xmas bonus was unacceptable or he wasn't getting anything to spend in January ... maybe both?

It doesn't look good at all for hibs fans - Iron Rod has allocated all the £10 million received - but, players was not part of the business plan. No wonder Collins left!

Under the gentleman's agreement that the honchos at Hibs have, Rod Petrie should be stepping down soon as chairman; obviously, he wanted to be remembered for clearing debt with Tom Farmer and building the training ground .... and not for getting into europe by building a good squad.

The next thing will be one of these East European Oligarchs mouching in and buying up the club....you heard it here first !!
133

YOH!,

20/12/2007 16:29:07
#156 You might be right wouldn't be the first to save his own skin before a hiding but I can't see Hibs not losing decent players in the future if they won't stump up the cash regradless of who the manager is. Collins would have known where he stood from day one but perhaps had higher expectations when the cash started coming in.
134

Swiper,

20/12/2007 16:30:06
Heard on good authority that Craig Brewster is being lined up.
135

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 16:31:30
#162 is he getting a cigarette and a blindfold?
136

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 16:32:20
Heard on good authority that Graham Rix is being lined up.
137

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 16:32:22
#141
"Blinkered" one word to describe you and many others. just like you like to use the same word about us.

No-one needs to look at accounts at easter road the facts are in the open and it doesnt add up even to the most stupid of hibs fans and there are many.

Sir Tom Farmer Has been quoted on many occassions in the past saying he is not interested in football, or is this something your blinkered to as well and conveniently dont recall him saying or would rather not admit
138

The G Man,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 16:33:43
I reckon he's just went back to his band OMD.
139

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 16:34:02
#154

perhaps mothball if you spent more time working and less time wanting to be a hibby there would be less garbage posted on here.....stop cheating your employer and get back out on the streets, my bin needs emptied....might find a wee dead rat in thier for your christmas!!!! ho ho ho
140

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 16:39:26
bins mothball.....bins......

they're not going to empty themselves.......

chop chop,
141

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 16:39:35
#166 haha JC IS going back to his old band - he's the singer in this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONJ3Wadgoxk

142

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 16:41:09
when you get back, stick the kettle on.....there's a good boy......

at this rate you'll be driving the lorry in no time!!!
143

alan smith,

20/12/2007 16:44:05
just heard from my pal that Collins left because Boozy Murphy and Fletcher are all aloud to leave if they can find clubs to match the asking price Hibs have put on there heads. Collins was told that Hibs are a selling club and thats the way its gonna stay until further notice. not sure how much truth is in this as the boy is in the youth squad. i'll be honest though i amn't really bothered about Collins being away i think he's right when he said he has taken us as far as he can. Man management skills wheren't the best and tactical skills were poor and signings have not been the best hopefully get Yogi in. think this is a good time for both Collins and Hibs to part
144

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 16:44:56
dear dear,

That is what it has come down to, remember you came hear to talk about john collins, now we are onto my mother????

and to do it you had to try to emulate irvine welsh' writing prose......you are a hibby in disguise ya cheeky wee street sweepin hibby wannabe
145

Just an opinion,

usa 20/12/2007 16:45:13
Turmoil in Auld Reekie as two clubs continue to freefall from former glory days.
For Scottish football, and the fans in particular, this is simply tragic whichever side of the divide you are on.
You cannot expect ANYBODY - not even the great Sir Alex - to produce a Hibs or Hearts team which will rival the Old Firm in this day and age.
For a start, there is not enough money coming in through the gate, and the wages on offer are on a par with some English clubs from their lower divisions.
So. sad as it is to say it, they are not really 'Big' clubs anymore, and the OF monopoly in the league and cup competitions is testement to that.
These are the hard facts of Scottish football life nowadays, the provincial clubs who make Europe are quickly despatched just to emphasise my point.
Collins had an illustrious career as a player, and he knows if you pay peanuts etc. etc.
Over at Tynecastle, another soap opera of a different type pans out.
Oh for a return to the 'Good Old Days'.
It will never happen, unfortunately.
146

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 16:46:26
weans?????? how far west is Gorgie.....me thinks you have lost the battle.....go and learn some proper vocabulary and group together with all your little Jambos mates and come back with a witty retort.....here fae ye nixt tuesday!!!erse
147

festerlehearts,

inapitinsiberia 20/12/2007 16:46:47
i heard in good authority jose marinho wants the job money doesnt matter its the football that counts its because they play like .....AJAX....BAYERN MUNICH...AND.... BARCELONA...ITS TRUE HONNEST A MATE TOLD ME
148

jimmyhibs,

east kilbride 20/12/2007 16:51:07
As long as it's not Yogi.
Billy Davies anyone?
149

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 16:53:45
#150, Agree about Yogi, but not about Tommy Craig. His contribution to Hibs has been his 2 proteges from Newcastle i.e. Kerr and O'Brien. Nuff said !!!
150

James (1),

20/12/2007 16:54:30
Does anyone know where he wants to go to next? Are there any vacancies for a manager? I for one believe his reason for leaving. Santa's coming soon!
151

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 16:56:16
181 jimmyhibs,east kilbride - never seen you post on the edinburgh blogs before - you wouldn't be a bairns fan per chance?
152

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

20/12/2007 16:57:26
Jackie McNamara anyone ? With help from the puppet master Tommy Craig?
153

jimmyhibs,

east kilbride 20/12/2007 17:00:42
185, that's maybe because you've only just learned to read.
154

jimmyhibs,

east kilbride 20/12/2007 17:02:33
182, yogi is only in a job because of Latapy.
latapy has been bailing Yogi out of the proverbial for a long time now.
155

Vidiprinter,

20/12/2007 17:06:41
#119 - Heard a very similar version of events from sources close to Easter Road, that JC walked due to players being sold in Jan with no transfer cash being made available. This is however I believe not the full story as JC would not simply walk in this manner without some other influencing factor....this has been done with some other plan in mind. Here is my conspiracy theory.

A very good source in the SFA told me that McGhee is 99% certain to be the next Scotland manager with terms agreed and all but the contract signed. As Gordon Smith intially said that no manager would be appointed until next year they are holding off with the formality. As with McLeish, McGhee is really a club manager and wants to step up with premiership as an end goal. JC wants the Scotland position badly as it is part time, decently paid, could easily work it from Monaco, great current squad and hatches a plan. The only real candidate standing in his way is McGhee. JC quits Hibs knowing that Petrie will have McGhee at the top of his list and is a club position that could possibly tempt McGhee to change direction, thus leaving JC well in their especially as the SFA would not have to pay a fee to sign him...bingo!!!

I would also love to see Yogi at Easter Road although I have heard that Rod Petrie and him do not get along in the slightest.
156

Franck,

20/12/2007 17:12:55
Bring back Franck Sauzee.
157

tell it like it is,

cloud 9 looking down on a pink bus shelter full of 20/12/2007 17:13:20
The real reason so many of you great unwashed from the west of this great city are on here, trying to make a mockery of sixpack squareheed leaving is because deep down you are all actually bricking-it incase we get a decent manager as apposed to a fax machine made in eastern europe full of eastern promise!
158

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 17:14:32
I have also heard that Petrie and the yogster don't get on, which would albut scupper that comming off, unless petrie goes also.

Don't think Collins is anywhere near being a name bounded round Hampden, think that the Fulham thing is a more likely scenario...

Still i'm glad he's gone......don't want davies weasly faced wee hun, dont want mcghee fat faced tim....there can only be one
159

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 17:15:15
#188 so when Falkirk spanked Dundee Utd 3-0 Lapaty coming on during the 83rd minute was pivotal was it? I'm sure every manager can thank key players for their clubs success but lets face it, its a team sport and Yogi's approach to players and the game is what Hibs need just now.
160

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 17:15:44
#191 i would have sauzee back in a flash, as head coach alongside a proven manager....a recipe for success!!
161

alan smith,

20/12/2007 17:17:15
if yogi comes Latapy might return as assistant dont you think???
162

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 17:20:02
#195 get sauzee back as well, and mixu, we'll beat hearts 6-2 every time we play them!!!!

now i'm about as daft as half the jambos on here

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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 17:21:39
from the sounds of the hibs fans on here nobody seems that bothered that their manager has left ... not many wishing JC well in his future endeavours ... surely in this season of goodwill, the hibees have a bit of xmas cheers for Johnny Six-pack?
164

Paul McL,

Dunbar 20/12/2007 17:26:11
I would support YOGI at ER. He has many attributes.

He is a very passionate guy who wouldn`t take any rubbish.

His teams always play with pride and passion, but they combine this with some good football.

His teams always try and play football and I think he has a good tactical brain.

Latapy back at ER as his assistant as well?
165

GrahamL,

20/12/2007 17:26:18
#191 A question for you, or any other Hibees who recognise some of this behaviour in themselves and feel in a position to answer.

In the light of the events of today, most people interested in Scottish football are currently focussing on Hibs. Indeed this story is the main football story on the BBC website. So for the first time in I don't know how long, the focus of journalists and supporters alike is on Easter Road and what could have caused your promising young manager to resign. Losing a manager in such circumstances is a rare event, and has come as quite a surprise. In the immediate aftermath of this momentous news, you are still focussing on what is happening at Hearts. Despite the club you support being the subject of todays top football story, you are more interested in things that have happened at Tynecastle in the last 2 years.
Are you now prepared to admit that your obsession with Hearts has gone just a teensy bit too far?
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Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 17:31:19
F?!K off graham L don't forget you are on this site every other day commenting on hibs, easter road, and all things green and white......go back to sleep, i for one don't worry what's happening in your dillusional little team, your are hoof and run merchants always have been always will be, nothing needing thought about or spoken abot thier......now go away the adults are talking
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Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 17:31:28
#189
The friend that told me knows one of the players involved in possibly leaving in january, he wouldnt tell me who it is although i can guess as im sure you can as well and any turmoil this has cause with JC leaving will be nothing compared to if these players are sold off in january if its the ones we think it is. namely murphy,fletcher,boozy. Yes we know fletcher signed a deal deal but isnt his agent the hibs fans favourite willie mackay? the same agent that after scott brown signed a new contract then got involved and had him sold on to celtic, so its not beyond the realms of impossibility fletcher could also be away soon.
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Vidiprinter,

20/12/2007 17:32:01
Taras, don't think that I have heard any Hibs fan believe that JC was going to move the club forward in the long term. Personally since the player revolt it was obvious that it was only a matter of time.
169

GrahamL,

20/12/2007 17:36:02
#200 By christ DH, calm down, you'll give yourself a hernia!

Firstly, I am not "on this site every other day commenting on hibs" I am on this site more or less every day commenting about Hearts. You see the difference? Hearts/Hibs? Different teams, I take an interest in the day to day going ons at Hearts as I support them, but it takes something quite significant to get my interest in Hibs - managers resigning, players threatening to leave, that sort of a thing...

And secondly, if you don't care about what happens at Hearts (although by your vitriolic description of the club I severely doubt that) then my question wasn't aimed at you. Was it?
170

Dublin 7 Hibby,

Myles away from ER 20/12/2007 17:38:58
Collins was never even adequate. He has demotivated the entire club with his egotism. He never went to watch the U19 side - when they beat QoS 13-0, his comment was "they've ruined the pitch"!!! And that's a quote. I believe he has been pushed. Petrie has refused to sanction his signings because of his poor record with those he has brought in! If it was your cash, would you give it to Collins.

There is no way Scotland, Fulham or any decent team would consider him. QoS under 19s, now that's a thought........
171

Dublin Hibs,

20/12/2007 17:39:03
#201

agian i hope this is just jambo speculation, but Murphy we all know is going, and like brown i would bear no hard feelings the guy has been imense and i wish him well, Fletcher is going nowhere nor is boozy, that is also from a legit reliable source, not a haphazard jambo
172

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 20/12/2007 17:40:18
oh how sad - he could have been the hibees garden gnome to keep up with hearts.....
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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 17:40:22
#202 Vidiprinter, to be fair to Collins; he had a less than zero budget and won you a cup as well as managing a pretty decent home record and under him you guys gave the Old Filth a few bloody noses.

Under those circumstances the midtable position last season and hibs being in the top 6 for most of this season isn't too bad.

As a rookie manager, shouldn't he have been give more support from Rod Petrie via money to buy/keep players?

RP fast-tracking the Ormiston training ground instead of letting JC have a better depth of squad than he has at the moment is just disrespectful IMO.
174

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 17:44:08
#202 I thought he would and #197 I'm bothered that he left. It was obvious to him that his board has no ambition in the footballing side of things. Yes, we have a great new training centre and vitually no debt which is all great, but without any ambition to take the football team up a level, what's the point ?. He has been told that there is no money to either bring in new players or increase the wages of existing players, e.g Boozy and that is why he has walked. Good luck to him I say and I'd like to bet that when he finds the right job with players who are willing to sacrifice social gatherings for professionalism and a supportive board, he will be a great success
175

BigRon,

20/12/2007 17:50:57
Petrie doesn`t have any passion for the game. So Hibs aren`t losing money but they will only ever get managers who use Hibs as a stepping stone to better things. If Hughes goes to Leith it will only be for a couple of seasons maximum. Nothing changes at Easter Road. They`ve been a selling club ever since I`ve watched Edinburgh football(over 40 years). Vlad may be mad but I`d rather have the rollercoaster of being a Jambo than the never changing lack of ambition at Easter Road.
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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 17:54:12
209 Reasoned Debate - you lived up to yer name there.
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alan smith,

20/12/2007 17:55:19
BirRon don't talk P!sh for a minute take your head out of the sand what your saying is that you would rather have hearts current situation compared to Hibs not saying that you are a stupid man but that coment is stupid
178

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 18:00:15
BigRon. Are you saying that Hearts are not a selling club ? Gordon,Pressley, Hartley, McCann, Bedar, etc. You are a selling club like any other. In fact just about every club in the world is a selling club when the price is right. As to the lack of ambition, just exactly what ambition are Hearts displaying at the moment, now that the Chairman's extavagent ambitions have been exposed as nothing more than a sham. I've no axe to grind here, but you can't be allowed to get away with such a tenuous argument. Methinks you are on very thin ice with this line of debate !!
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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 18:00:26
210 BigRon - in the long term, I'm not sure the unpredictability of Vlad is a better bet ... he's starting to get predictable in his unpredictability.

My worry for hibs is that Petrie and crew are gearing up to sell Hibs...low gearing, decent profile...no current ambition to build a team... a sale is a cert.

Just heard STV News: Collins - "You drove me out" ....says it all.

Come on Hibees - get angry at your Chairman - he's got some explaining to do.
180

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 18:01:36
#211 Taras, cheers mate, just to let you know that not all Hibs fans thought he was doing a bad job.
181

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 18:04:03
#206
Didnt you all say the same about brown, thompson etc. There going no-where. time will tell or should i say we'll see in a couple of weeks when the transfer window opens. It's not just jambo speculation
182

BigRon,

20/12/2007 18:09:00
Mr. Smith,
in reply to your comment I would not swap the situation at Tynecastle for that in Leith. The point I was making is that under Petrie Hibs will be no more than a feeder club for the old firm. There is no ambition to seriously challenge near the top of the table and never will be. At least I`ve seen my team win the Scottish Cup twice and split the old firm in the league.
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alan smith,

20/12/2007 18:15:49
Quote "Vlad may be mad but I`d rather have the rollercoaster of being a Jambo than the never changing lack of ambition at Easter Road."
Sorry but that reads to me that you would rather Hearts situation than Hibs also where is your ambition i you sold Gordon, Hartley, Pressely, and replaced them with Bennie, Kurskis, and Goncalvis is that moving forward for you?????
184

alan smith,

20/12/2007 18:17:45
218 was for big forgot to add that
185

alan smith,

20/12/2007 18:18:10
big ron whats wrong with me today
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Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 18:22:18
#213
How can you say Hearts are a selling club?

Pressley: many stories about how he ended up at darkheid but we all know it was because of Vlad he wanted to go.

Hartley: Had always stated his ideal was to play for his boyhood club, he never hid that fact and fair play to him he still gave Hearts 110% when he played even after this admission, so it was inevitable he would go.

Gordon: How many offers did we turn down before he went lets see a 5million offer then 6million then 7 million. untill the price vlad put on his head was matched or there abouts. Vould the same be said for hibs had gordon been a hibs player? NO you would have sold him on the first offer Petrie would have bitten keanes hand off for the 5million

Bednar: Still a Hearts player he is away on loan. Might be sold however not a big loss, he was too lazy and unfit too many injuries etc.

Gone are the days at Hearts where the owner or board will accept peanuts for our players and sell because we need to sell for money. going back to the gordon sale, every player has their price even Real Madrid would sell ronaldhino and co if an offer they deemed good enough came in. does that make them a selling club?
187

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 18:22:54
sorry meant Barcelona not Real Madrid....just before im hounded for that haha
188

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 18:26:24
looks like Driver is being chased by the OF - STV news kept calling him a "striker"....I know this doesn't make sense BUT I suppose if you play five in midfield often enough, everyone becomes a striker?
189

alan smith,

20/12/2007 18:29:51
221 but isn't that the same for Hibs
Brown = we all knew he was gonna go he only signed the contract so hibs got what they decerved and like Heartly gave 110% when in a Hibs shirt
Murphy = has Always said that the English League is were he wants to be
Killin, Rat Face, Stewart, Murray = all left at the end of there contracts

Hibs and Hearts are in the same boat we bring in Sh!te from lower leagues in England you Get sh!te on loan from Lithuania
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Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 18:31:15
I heard on the real radio last night they were going on about hutton making it into the top ten list of young players in the world HAHA never heard so much bull in my life. Hutton the guy who miko our worst player skinned alive at hampden and who couldnt get near driver on saturday. This must be why the OF want him he's skinned there full backs evertime we've played them.

As i've already said in above post every player has a price on there heads a club will sell for but i really cant see rangers being willing to part with the money vlad would be looking for, and strachan has already been told the biscuit tin is locked away in january so no chance there either
191

BigRon,

20/12/2007 18:31:48
Alan, may I call you Alan? Im sure you are a very fine chap and granted I have frustrations with the present regime down Gorgie way. Gordon has cone to the premiership as will Larry Kingston eventually and who can blame them given the cash they can earn. They are too good for the old firm. Elvis and Hartley went to celtic for political reasons. Romanov felt betrayed so in his eyes they had to go. If they hadn`t opposed him publicly they wouldn`t be at Celtic Park now. I think the difference with Hibs is that they will sell to the old firm at the drop of a hat.
192

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 18:35:30
Gorgies Finest, I think you just agreed with me. i.e. every player has his price and this makes every club a selling club if the price is right.
We did not sell Brown for the "first Offer" received. We held out and got a very healthy 4.5m. We also held out for Thomson and got 2m. The original offer was 2m for both. We got over a million for Whittaker (he's not woth that)Murray left for nothing, Killen left for nothing, Caldwell left for nothing, Riordan left for (virtually) nothing, all under freedom of contract. No selling club mentality there. We simply cannot match the wages of the OF and neither can you. As for Gordon, a good goalkeeper, yes, worth 9m ? no way. I bet Sunderland fans are asking why they paid so much. He is'nt even in the team now. He was worth about half what was paid and Hearts simply got lucky.
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Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 18:36:27
#224
Allan you make very valid points regarding the crap that bot clubs bring in, ive no objection to any player being sold as long as the fair price is matched and he is replaced by better or at the very least a player of equal standard. However this hasn't happened at hearts. players have been brought in and dont match up to the justification in their huge wages. Hibs have done same lots of transfer fees brought in and not matched by replacing these players with players of better quality, not only that but stil insist on this "capped wage structure" which will never lure a good player in the first place
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Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 18:37:42
225 Gorgie's Finest, after Driver skinning Murphy I bet Hibs will want the OF to buy Driver, knowing that he would probably sit on the bench like either Naismith or Killen...another buy-to-let-rot-on-the-bench scheme.

Andy should look closely at the history of players going to the OF before he sells his soul to them....he'd be better going to the Premiership in a season or two and stay at Hearts in the meantime and playing regularly.
195

Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 18:37:57
BigRon #217. You are lucky to have seen your club win the SC twice, but I have also seen my team split the old firm more than once, and as someone who has "Watched Edinburgh football for over 40 years", you should remember it too !!!
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victor ian,

20/12/2007 18:39:09
i've not had time today to follow the grieving process of the hibees after today's events, which come as no surprise to me anyway.

enough time has now passed since the news broke for the wailing and hand wringing to cease, and the spinning to commence.

right... presumably all hibees will be delighted that 6pack has left... 'cos he was never any good as a manager, was he? no of course not.

again... presumably all hibees will now be of the certain opinion that all aggrieved players such as simon brown, ivan sproule, kevin thompson and michael stewart were in the right along. some or all of these poor guys were denounced as trouble makers, lazy, unfit, non-footballers etc etc, but i suppose now the truth has come out that they were spot on to stand up to the now departed 6pack. why of course.

it should also be interesting and hilarious to follow the comments on the threads in days to come. i have no doubt whatsoever that there will be some hibees who will tie themselves in knots trying to defend both sides.

6pack to be denounced as a useless, trouble making, arrogant, aloof, self promoter.

petrie to be denounced as a tight fisted bean counter.

watching with much interest.

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Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 18:40:28
Gorgies Finest #228, Could not have put it better myself.
198

Hashimoto,

edinburgh 20/12/2007 18:40:31
#76 - I found this the most interesting comment so far in this debate. Is that right about HMFC helping Hibs?
Re JC leaving - feel pretty ambivalent about it to be honest. From previous board appointments, I wouildn't even guess at who'll come in next: maybe one of the Guantanamo 4!!
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Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 18:45:59
#223
yes its correct if you look up hearts history and look up scottish football history.

"Hearts traditional local rivals in the city of Edinburgh are Hibernian F.C. Fans' loyalty to a particular side often was for sectarian reasons (Hibs were initially founded as a charity side to raise money for the city's Catholic Irish immigrants located around the Cowgate area of the city, whilst Hearts drew their support mainly from the Protestant population). It must be mentioned, that the sectarian divide was not as wide as that found in Glasgow between Rangers and Celtic football clubs; indeed, Hearts lobbied hard for the admission of Hibernians (as they were initially called) into the Scottish Football Association, who initially forbade member clubs to play them (Hearts played several "illegal" matches with Hibs until the SFA acquiesced)."



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Reasoned Debate,

20/12/2007 18:47:16
#231 Victor ian,y ou are too late to come on this thread as "presumably" you have not read the previous posts or you "presumably" would not have "presumed" the various points that you "presume" to be the case. Come back tomorrow.
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alan smith,

20/12/2007 18:51:59
Big Ron

I wouldn't say the drop of a Hat we got more than a Million for Whittaker (who IMHO is not worth 500k) Brown and Thommo were ment to be going together for 2Million we got 6,4 Million for them surely thats good business sence mate. the way i see it the board have learnt from there mistakes with caldwell riordanmurray and the rest leaving on the cheap and i applaud them for it i always say if a player doesn't want to play for a club sell him but only if its perfect for the club
202

Cardiff Hibs,

Cardiff 20/12/2007 18:54:14
Just picked up on news and fair to say am disappointed, particularly if key driver was fallout over cash. Collins had potential and whilst some of his methods and man management were debatable, he deserved a chance to invest and take the team forward.

Petrie and Farmer have a clear choice to make : perpetual feeder / selling club or move to next level, spend some cash to buy talent to compliment home grown resources. It appears that this is not their approach - fine from business perspective but limits team / talent and , in time, that will impact business. Short termism versus real ambition. Disappointing.

Replacement needs to be strong enough to manage Board but also realistic - Craig Brewster has potential , Mark McGhee also but I suspect Scotland job is his to lose. Would not like to see Davies involved - very negative. Hughes a non starter as he and Petrie are not compatible.

To finish, it is sad that whenever the club make progress - under Mowbray, under Collins, there seems to be no real ambition to push on to the next level and really grow. Time for an offer from abroad from an exiled Hibby to buy out Farmer and push on. And there are one or two. Watch this space..........
203

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 18:59:22
#231 simple F/O - blawbag,
new manager is between MIXU PAATELAINEN,
JOHN YOGI HUGHES OR BOTH.
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leith keely,

sunny leith 20/12/2007 19:07:54
yogi"einstein" hughes for the lochend sewage farm?.
205

Fergal,

20/12/2007 19:10:15
victor ian where have you been? Out xmas shopping for your own hearts jammies?

Big Ron, you would rather have VLAD?

Are all you shambos as big a pillock as these 2 wallopers?
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thommo1875,

dublin 20/12/2007 19:11:36
john hughes would be the ideal manager, hibs through and through, and has done well at falkirk (recently)
207

thommo1875,

dublin 20/12/2007 19:17:44
good timing collins as capello just got a job, whos next on the list.
rix robertson burley .......
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victor ian,

20/12/2007 19:32:07
yosser hughes for hobos manager? ha ha ha ha haaa!!

mixu pit-a-line-oan? you would be as well to have mixu 6-2 as manager.

naw, hughes is always banging on about his honest, young scottish lads. there aren't many of them left at hibs.


209

Fergal,

20/12/2007 19:32:11
Whoever we get as manager I bet he can speak english
210

jmcmil,

20/12/2007 19:35:28
Phew! I've been waiting ages for a break in the drivel, looks like it's here and now.

Herats fans - ok, fair enough - our nerds have given you a hard time about managers etc so, this is your day - enjoy it! Banter is good.

For Hibernian FC supporters still here to discuss the issue (if there ever were any), I would like to offer a couple of focussing facts regarding this release.

I am convinced that there is more to come out from this that we may not like hearing. Lets look at the information we have been offered so far shall we?

Our own website carries a stale, patronising seven line statement about this. Mr Petrie has the most to say, probably about four out of the seven lines.

The report on Reporting Scotland tonight lasted about 45 seconds. Most of that time was given over to the views of some fans.

For me, the full truth behind this will come when the players who have gone and those that remain decide to give interviews.

For what it's worth, IMO, he's gone because he can't get the money to try/do/aim for what he wanted for the club.

I am not one to make personal statements. Mostly beause they tend to come back and haunt you (Hibs Fc and others please note). On this ocassion I will break my own rule.

Mr Petrie, whether you like it or not, we the Hibernian FC supporters are shareholders. We may not hold pieces of paper to say so. We may not have a say at Board level. We may never be party to decisions that affect our beloved club. We do however have the power in our hands to hurt you in the pocket if necessary.

If it turns out that JC (who was doing a reasonable job with an unreasonable budget)has gone because you were unable or unwilling to provide him with the financial resources (which I believe would have been modest) to take our club forward, then you face the possiblility of many fans/supporters showing their displeasure by walking.

If it turns out that you removed JC because of behind the scenes disharmony that were of hi
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jmcmil,

20/12/2007 19:41:01
If it turns out that you removed JC becaue of behind the scenes disharmony that were of his making, you have my support.

To whom it may concern: PLEASE GET THIS SITE SORTED OUT!
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Lionheart Fodithman,

home 20/12/2007 19:41:24
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_pack
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Hashimoto,

edinburgh 20/12/2007 19:44:24
#234
Cheers mate - never knew that (and me a Hibby).


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jmcmil,

20/12/2007 19:45:38
#237
Re-read your post. Agree with your sentiments but not necessarily with your names. Good discussion points, but perhaps not wise to expect considered opinions today huh?
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Fredster.,

20/12/2007 19:52:05
Well first i have to say although i didn't think Collins was a bad manager i don't think Hibs were the right club for him to start with!

Hibs are a huge club, to manage, at this level u must have very good man to man skills and also be able to change the game when needed, i for one didn't think he could. I would tho like to wish him all the best for the future and thank him for one of the best days of my life! I'll never forget the 18th march 2007 thanks John.

Now Petrie on the other hand.. Mr Petrie if by any chance ur reading any of this please take a min to think to yourself why u got involed with hibs? I would put money on to do ur best to better the team?! I hope thats the case anyway, somewhere along the line u have lost ur way and started to run us like a business. When needed u and farmer done what was asked but now what we need is ambition. Some people like to go through life and sit back others take some risks some pay off others don't.. but we learn from them and bounce back a better person.. hibs have learned a lesson from the old days, don't over spend we all agree on that, but bring back the ambition u had when u first took over this team!

I think we could pay wages that Aberdeen, Utd, and Motherwell pay if not better without going anywhere near the red! For the sake of the fans and Hibernian F.C Push on and make us great again the foundations r there, its your call?!


ps Victor Ian you covered everything to make us look bad no matter what we say!! I hope u do watch with interest because at least we will have a manager soon, unlike yourself who can only dream of a real set up.

Keep the chin up son.

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Fergal,

20/12/2007 19:53:45
I do not know John Collins personally, watched him when he was a lad, thought he was fantastic- too good for scottish football.

I was sick when he went to celtic but life went on.

But John Collins does what is best for John Collins.

Celtic fans hated him for leaving for Monaco, Everton fans hated him for leaving for Fulham. Each time he said he would sign a contract for the former.

He left Scotland in the lurch by resigning as an international player at 30 because he could see the light that there was going to be a trough in Scotlands fortunes.

If he does not have a job to go to by mid January I will stop laughing at the shambo's.
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Jambo-ree,

20/12/2007 20:00:26
Just a thought. Young Mr Collins has had a few trips back to France recently has he not? You don't think he's been tapped by Monaco, do you?
218

jmcmil,

20/12/2007 20:02:43
#252 Possible, but surely that is much to underhand not to have the hands of slimey Agent McKay all over it?
219

victor ian,

20/12/2007 20:04:50
#250, yes you're right, so i did!! it's what we have to contend with from hibees normally.

don't take it the wrong way though, it's called taking advantage to turn the tables for a change.

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Fergal,

20/12/2007 20:06:05
probably cos he can speak english and french, not common languages around Gorgie these days.

Mind you Christof Berras old man can... i have met him.. the list............ ends there.
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victor ian,

20/12/2007 20:08:25
#255, well there's ibrahim tall and christian nade, as well as all the english speaking players.

maybe those names are on the other side of your list.

222

Fredster.,

20/12/2007 20:10:07
#254

Granted i have seen some of the stuff some Hibs fans say on hearts threads, Its not the best but most ignore them as i do usually.. but i find u always seem to have a dig!! Does this mean ur just like the so called hibs fans leaving dross on ur thread?!

Post something we can talk about and u will find more folk willing to chat!
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Fergal,

20/12/2007 20:12:57
Sure are
224

Jambo-ree,

20/12/2007 20:14:14
#255 With a French speaking (ex)manager and all these French players at ER, does that officially make them the "Oui" team?
225

Fergal,

20/12/2007 20:15:28
259 Ha Ha very good!
226

Fredster.,

20/12/2007 20:16:21
#259

That actully made me laugh. not bad for a jambo!
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victor ian,

20/12/2007 20:25:03
#257, i used to post the odd dig on the hibs threads but too many would get wound up and start ranting about it. i don't bother the hibs threads that much now in actual fact.

considering some of the stuff that's directed at yours truly, i think a bit of banter is allowed.

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victor ian,

20/12/2007 20:29:17
#257, if it's an actual football related comment you're after, ok then.

i really hope you don't get mark mcghee next 'cos he could take you places. that's not a 'i just don't want hibs to do well' kind of attitude, it's in our interests that hibs don't get a lot better.

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Fergal,

20/12/2007 20:39:53
victor.......... it must be christmas!
230

Fredster.,

20/12/2007 20:40:23
#264

Thats better, ;)
Yeah i know what u mean i would not like u guys to bring in a top manager as i would get it tight week in week out from my mates! Its all good banter end of the day, and lets be honest if ur own team are doing better than the dark side, Hearts in my case! i think a little wind up here and there is alright! ;-)
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victor ian,

20/12/2007 20:45:25
#265/266,

guys... mark mghee comment on tv about 5 mins ago, "we need a strong hibs and a strong hearts to help us challenge the OF".

i nearly stopped typing. cheeky bar steward!!!!!

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Phil C,

Cupar 20/12/2007 20:46:50
WHAT??? No confidentiality agreement, no lunatic signings?? No hush, hush let's fleece the punters? No stupid Yam type protests? Once again the Hibees show the ?BIG?(erse) team how to behave. Wonder how long before we get a manager.

Well done JC, and thanks. It probably is as far as you could take us, given the lack of spending. Hibbies can understand the need for financial prudence (or we end up like the Gorgie numpties!). I for one think we do need to open up the purse a bit though!
233

Fergal,

20/12/2007 20:53:33
victor... see as soon as they get delusions of grandeur (eg 3rd spot) Never been there myself!
234

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 21:00:17
I REALLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM AT EASTER ROAD BEING WITHOUT A MANAGER,

HEARTS HAVE NOT HAD A MANAGER FOR TWO YEARS.
235

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 21:05:00
Watching the dons game 2-0 up puts them through if result stays the same.
My point being it could have been the yams,
unfortunately for them it's not.
giruy.
236

JAL to Easter Road,

20/12/2007 21:07:02
#270 No but they've had a fax machine--surely a fax at this point is better than a runner!
237

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 21:36:18
This is a hiccup nothing more, we are well in front of the yams, our debt is next to zero, we now have the new training ground, and the lads coming through brilliant,
no doubt in the next few days a new manager will be appointed and back to normal service, we have become over the years third best team in scotland,
keep the heads up boys we are " HIBERNIAN FC "
238

Hibs fc,

20/12/2007 21:38:05
PS, i'm off to bed the backward boys will appear shortly.
239

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 21:38:58
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Midlothian_F.C.

I know wiki can be wrong BUT check out this link...it says:

"The club's current head coach is Angel Chervenkov."

...what happened to his 2 compadres? Did they get inspired by JC sloping off into the distance?
240

Splash,

Broxburn 20/12/2007 21:39:05
Stephen Kenny & Robbo on shortlist....hmmmmmm
241

Taras Shevchenko,

20/12/2007 21:43:28
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Korobochka

says the waxwork/mime-artist/ventriloquist is still the main dude as well.

oh well....good conspiracy theory when you see what happened at Chelsea.
242

Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 21:51:38
#271
Your right it could have been Hearts, but wasn't to be even though we had a far better class of team in our section than the sheep have. We were in the UEFA group stages have you lot seen the group stages yet?
Just anther reason why we are and always will be your masters and edinburgh's big team. giruy

Oh and how many years now have petrie and co been telling you lot the debt is next to zero? if it was next to zero 2 years ago or a year ago where has all this transfer money gone? 1 guess petrie and farmers bank accounts. another dillusioned hobo idiot.

Night night now better hurry on up to bed you have school in the morning.
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victor ian,

20/12/2007 21:54:12
hobos might be interested to know that victorian had 50 blabs on aberdeen to win tonight at 7/4.

some might even be able to work out victorian's winnings.

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andyhibee2485,

20/12/2007 22:08:21
There are two good interviews on the bbc website with Collins and Petrie. Petrie, clearly in total shock at Collins's decision, states that the board were willing to back Collins 100% financially. It's possible he is not being totally honest but he is quite explicit that there were no arguments over figures etc.
Collins really doesn't give any good reasons for a decision that seems to have been made in great haste beyond rather vague statements like "I had taken the club as far as I could" or "I'm a young ambitous manager".
Personally I don't accept his attmept to portray himself as in some sort of financial straightjacket that he didn't expect. Surely he was clear about the board's policy (eg wage structure, wiping out debt etc) when he signed on. In fact he constantly talked about it during his reign, he even makes reference to it in the interview!
Yes Hibs lost a number of very talented players, weakening the team, for a lot of money (thompson, brown, whittaker) but the board were open and honest about where this would be re-invested. ie wiping out the debt and the training centre (again something Collins continually harped on about).
It is also worth noting that some players were moved on (at least Stweart, Sproule) because of poor personal relationships with Collins, nothing to do with money at all.
It is also clear that Collins's signings were not as good as the players that left, fair enough to a degree, but more worringly most do not even seem to be up to general spl standards. (Kerr, O'Brien???)
There are also very talented players such as Shiels and Zemmama getting very little game time.
I was a great supporter of Collins, his fitness coaching was clearly excellent, he was almost always very positive when he talked and he set very high standards in terms of performance. Also he won us a cup!!!
I am not, however, impressed by his decision or the reasons given for it. I am not convinced by them and think the greater problem was Collins's
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Gorgie's Finest,

20/12/2007 22:11:14
Wonder what we can expect next from down fester road way.

Tom Farmer standing on princess street dressed as santa claus rattling a biscuit tin, while petrie is driving fletcher,murphy and boozy through to weegie land in his brand new all paid for cash up front aston martin. While he's there he can pick up the keys to his nice new mansion he will have just bought.
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dougie fi shandon,

20/12/2007 23:18:29
I know of a big-name (aleged) Scot coming to Edinburgh who should fit the Easter Road requirement.

After all, Kenney Ritchie is just out of one hot-seat..........
247

Fergal,

20/12/2007 23:24:57
281 Oh dear that old chestnut.

Whatever happens to Hibs, Tom Farmer can afford 100 Aston Martins (after your first they all look the same).

That man has more dignity than anyone that will ever be associated with your pathetic excuse for a football club will ever buy.

Your club (?) has lost its soul, past and future.

Talk about selling the family silver
248

Dood,

21/12/2007 01:13:16
Frankly this is descending into a massive pile of BAWS!!!!

JC's gone, hey ho. BOVVAA'd? Face??? Most reasonable Hibbies were slating him for some time - the cracks had shown. Continuous refusal to pick the best 11 available (sound familiar at Gorgie Farm?), crap tactics at home, refusal to drop sh*t summer signings......

As I said, Not interested in this debate - however just read BBC Sport - PLEASE NOT NEIL LENNON.
249

Zico fan,

canada 21/12/2007 02:05:07
He knew he wouldn't get loads of cash to spend. Why do managers ever sign contracts ? Lets get big yogi in and move forward.
250

jimmyhibs,

east kilbride 21/12/2007 07:43:00
Exclusive!!! The new hibs manager will be not be unveiled until January. This is because it's going to be Cinderella and she won't be finished doing panto until then.
Rod Petrie says he's delighted he's got someone who can pull the crowds in and has vast experience working with buttons.

Oh yes he ddid!
251

Harry Ranch,

21/12/2007 10:27:23
Neil Lennon is the man to take this club to the next level. The board must break the bank to secure his service's.
252

jimmyhibs,

east kilbride 21/12/2007 11:35:32
288- I'd rather have John Lennon.
253

Gorgie's Finest,

21/12/2007 11:36:15
#288
Surely you're having a laugh you really want neil lennon? just what has he achieved in management so far?......nothin....thats becaise he's only been in management 5mins...if your as big a team as your fans keep saying you are a bigger a better and more experienced manager than neil lennon should be getting the hibs job.
254

jimmyhibs,

east kilbride 21/12/2007 11:36:43
Remember the name: Alan Shearer.
255

Iain Bhern,

21/12/2007 11:49:15
Wow what a coincidence Fulham have sacked their manager this morning!
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Taras Shevchenko,

21/12/2007 13:12:49
#292 Fulham is perfect for Choc Johnny - hes Ful-ham-sell too

 

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