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Published Date: 06 December 2008
HUNDREDS of newly-created property firms in the Capital are at severe risk of going out of business as the recession takes hold, experts warned today.
Nearly 400 firms that were launched in Edinburgh in 2007 to take advantage of the then-booming housing sector are seen to be at risk of collapse.

And it has been warned banks will either push for administration against those firms that are struggling or, if lending has been given to them with a personal guarantor, entrepreneurs could be forced to pay for their firm's failure.

An analysis of VAT-registered businesses found that the number of Edinburgh-based companies in the real estate, renting and business services sector increased by 385 last year. Business advisers say the vast majority of these were property-related businesses looking to cash in on the market, such as letting agents, construction firms, developers, plumbers, joiners and painters.

But as one of the hardest-hit sectors in the current economic downturn, it is now feared that many of those new firms are at high risk of folding.

In total, there are now 6130 firms operating within the sector in Edinburgh. It accounted for 70 per cent of new businesses created in the city last year.

Martin Gill, Scottish managing partner at business adviser firm PKF, said: "There are so many firms with a lot of money tied up in property. The inability to sell these assets provides very serious cash-flow problems, particularly when banks are putting on increased pressure.

"A huge number of property companies started up on the back of the property boom. Some of these companies will have built up assets that won't have realised any money at all. The question is how long they can keep paying the finance costs."

He said that start-up property development companies at the greatest risk of collapse are unlikely to have been able to generate the level of sales that will give them security – and will now be finding sales hard to come by.

"If you look at Edinburgh, its foundation is property and financial services and a lot of companies service these sectors, so the impact is flowing down," said Mr Gill.

"It is going to be all the more tough in the new year. So many businesses rely on RBS and HBOS, from sandwich shops near their offices to all types of businesses. They don't know what to expect."

The strain on companies is already having an impact on jobs. Anthony Knight, director at recruitment firm Brightwork, said vacancies in business service sectors like plumbers and joinery had held up well in the public sector but "died off completely" in the private sector.

"It is about cutting costs," he said. "All these companies are having to consolidate and save on costs."

Tough times

AMONG the companies with Edinburgh operations in administration are:

• The Pier, retailer, store in George Street.

• Woolworths, retailer, stores on Lothian Road, Raeburn Place, Milton Link, Constitution Street, St John's Road.

• Bowie Castlebank, owns Klick Photopoint (stores on Morningside Road, Ormiston Terrace, Deanhaugh Street, Great Junction Street)

• AAim, property fund behind the George Hotel

• Gregor Shore, developer of Platinum Point and Granton Marina

• MFI, retailer, stores at Seafield Road, Straiton Mains, Earl Grey Street.

• MicroEmissive Displays, technology firm (based at West Mains Road)

• Heritor's, property fund, West Silvermills Lane

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1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 06/12/2008 11:48:15
Most of the small firms were cowboys,but thanks to the recession they will soon be gone.
2

ccc,

06/12/2008 12:22:45
Wow. I never saw this coming.

This has been obvious for about 2 years. I do love how the EN are so far behind the curve. :)

3

Uncle Piehead,

06/12/2008 12:30:58
Asalam alaykum brothers and sisters.

My heart bleeds for these property firms. Not.

4

Archie, Gourock,

06/12/2008 12:56:42
Why the hostility?

You dithering lefty losers are incapable of ever turning your own coin. "Brothel" and "score" come to mind.

If you wish to vent your spleen... Do so at those who have raped and shamed your nation. Direct your invective at the real scum of capitalism - BANKS. If that's too broad a brushstroke, I suggest HBOS. Total and utter filth. The true badboys of world banking. If Gordowns Brownstuff lends one penny to this deeply rotten institution, I will personally instruct my MP to demand full disclosure of HBOS' accounts.

Almost every company listed above banks with HBOS. Too much of a coincidence given they only command 23 percent of commercial lending in Scotland.

HBOS is finished and it is well aware that this is the case. I seriously question even the basic legality of their current actions.

If someone had told me 8 years ago that a bank could act dishonestly, I'd have laughed in their face. If someone told me today that banks aren't actively robbing people for commercial gain rather than fiscal prudence, I'd know they weren't self-employed.

I loathe and detest all that is socialism. I think nationalisation is a crime HOWEFKXNGEVER to stop this assetcide being practised by HBOS, the government must step in and step in NOW.
5

Mallory,

Edinburgh 06/12/2008 13:05:27
If someone had told me 8 years ago that a bank could act honestly and ethically, I'd have laughed in their face.

Recently the parasites have excelled themselves - at our expense - and are now laughing at us for bailing them out in time to pay the Christmas bonuses.
6

ccc,

06/12/2008 13:15:01
#6

Please replace the word 'All' with 'many'. :)

I have done nothing you described above. I am in the growing army of disgruntled sensible people having to pay for other idiots mistakes and greed.
7

googler,

06/12/2008 13:18:13
This is absolute drivel.

Just because the business advisor(s) mentioned in this article says so, EVERY plumber, joiner, painter, etc. who started up in 2007 is now deemed to have been doing so to CASH IN on the property boom....... and for no other reason.

Here's a suggestion; maybe they started up their business in 2007 because that year co-incided with them finishing a vocational course, an apprenticeship, or - maybe they moved on from an established business to set up on their own because they grew weary of working for someone else; not necessarily because they wanted to CASH IN on anything.
8

Uncle Piehead,

06/12/2008 14:13:34
#4 why the bitterness?

Did HBoS charge you £25 for going overdrawn?

Never understood that £25 charge for years, but then I realised what it's for: they use each £25 to give their staff the customary bed-shed haircut and cheap tie. You can actually buy Lego HBoS staff. Wee daft people with streaked hair and loud mobile phones.
9

Mallory,

Edinburgh 06/12/2008 14:51:38
Its more than £25 Piehead - and then all those automated calls at £12 a click....
10

Uncle Piehead,

06/12/2008 15:02:28
#10

Bejaysus.

BoS and Halifax Building Society were both reasonable well run organisations.

Halifax demutualised and started behaving like a fat man at a pizza eating competition.

BoS failed in its natwest takeover and became takeover fodder itself, forcing it to save face and join into an uncomfortable 'merger' with the pizza fatso.

All them gurgling noises were not a good sign.

Hey Pizza Fatso - have a wafer thin mint.

Bleeeeeuuuuurrgggggghhhhhh.
11

Foo,

06/12/2008 16:50:58
All of this is great news for me, my mortgage is cheaper than a bag of chips, petrol's being given away free with every cloned card withdrawal, foods cheaper than ever and VAT has been reduced. I can honestly say I've never had so much spare cash.

I'm really, really thankful I own a house, I'd hate to have to be paying some landlords fixed rate mortgage off just now.

And for once its great to see the selfish baby boomers getting hit where it hurts. For so long they have crafted the housing market into something that for graduates and young people, was impossible to join.

Now generation X and Y are coming to be in the driving seat, houses can be bought for young families and payments are affordable.

The evil, selfish baby boomers are at an age now that they've forgotten that when young families are starting out one of the most important things is to buy a house, not for financial gain but for other reasons such as pride, self fulfillment and the satisfaction of providing for those who you care for.

All the evil boomer can now think about is their pathetic pensions and dwindling savings.

I honestly can't stop laughing at the thought of a boomer, renting a house and panicking as they watch their saving pot reduce to nothing.

Nice.
12

Tr1xx,

Edinburgh 06/12/2008 17:15:55
@Foo,

Judging by your tone, I take it that you're one of the lucky few that believe your job is 100% secure. Wait until you're on the other side of the fence. You never know, it may not be quite so far off.

Like many commentators, I believe the financial crisis is not simply a "once in a generation" event, but I expect that history will prove this to be SUBSTANTIALLY more significant than anyone (other than 'in the know' government ministers) believes. Just look at events over the Atlantic and watch for the tsunami that's about to hit the UK in a few weeks time. Be afraid; be very afraid.
13

Foo,

06/12/2008 17:26:37
Well I have to admit, my job IS 100% secure, and whilst I accept that there are those who may lose jobs, there must also be many others like me who do have 100% secure jobs.

Also, quite frankly, if I was laying people off it's be the older ones close to retirement, not the young, quick intelligent up and comers.
14

elayne,

06/12/2008 17:38:36
i personally dont place value on material items,having a house is most important,but as for getting in debt to have latest items and keep up with joneses,well,stuff that!never have never will
15

Proximo,

06/12/2008 17:48:16
I'm just glad I invested my wealth in life experiences instead of trying to create even more wealth with it...

Fuel prices are down, council tax is frozen, the sales are on in the shops, it's all good.

And as for interest rate cuts; God Bless tracker mortgages from Alliance and Leicester, and God Bless Gordon Brown...The Proximo house rejoices with this unexpected windfall! £300 extra every month (to invest in even more life experiences of course).

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You...

P.S I think I will write this comment on every story even vaguely related to the the credit crunch/property/interest rates etc. The same people write ostensibly the same comment every night so why not me?
16

Mr. Borat Sagdiyev,

06/12/2008 18:11:35
Methinks #4 is a Daily Mail reader.
17

Skinnybob,

06/12/2008 19:03:32
Foo - 100% job security can mean only a couple of possibilities,

Member of Parliament
or
Rentboy

which are you?
18

ccc,

07/12/2008 00:02:32
Gotta love all those who rejoice because their mortgage is now cheaper. They seem to forget this country is completely goosed.

Having a cheaper mortgage must be great. However you are paying for something that is COLLAPSING in value every second. I don't have a mortgage. I don't have any debt. The feeling is great. :)

As for the debt holders - Good luck. In a massive deflationary environment the last thing you want is debt. But of course I am sure all the mortgage holders know this alreay........

Not. :)
19

ccc,

07/12/2008 00:05:15
Oh and just to confirm the delusional thoughts that abound with the debt holders...

Foo - "foods cheaper than ever"

You clearly live in a parallel Universe. You just carry on trying to convince yourself that everything is just fine.

Simple fact is - we are all goosed. Debt holders or not. Thing is those with debt are going to be SLIGHTLY less goosed than the rest.

Nae luck. :)
20

ccc,

07/12/2008 00:06:05
Above should have read "Those WITHOUT debt".

Apologies.
21

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 07/12/2008 01:02:00
but.you.are.all.still.using.cell.phones.and.credit.card
22

Foo,

07/12/2008 10:43:41
ccc

Nae luck!?

I pay nothing each month for a massive capital asset, my house. It's cheap as chips.

What assets do you have? Oh, you have nothing because you're paying a huge monthly fee to your BTL landlord. Well, at least he'll have a nice Christmas, after all you're covering all his liabilities.

Nae luck?! Debt holder?! I've never had so much money. To me, you sound just like one of the evil baby boomers that are the cancer affecting our society.

#18 you sound bitter, is your job at aldi under threat? If it makes any difference, I pity you, I really do. I must be horrible to have to worry so much about your job, particularly this close to the festive season. And for the record, those two jobs are the only two you can think of...would you care to explain why you're thinking about rent boys so much? Frustrated are you?
23

ccc,

07/12/2008 11:07:46
Foo.

You seem to think houses are now all of a sudden affordable to young people and families ? What planet are you on !! We are a LONG way until we get there. Prices have another 30%+ to fall at least.

Can I ask how you pay 'nothing' for a massive capital asset ? You state in the previous comment you have a mortgage !!

So you are paying for your capital asset. The 'cheap as chips' point is well founded though. You do realise capital asset values can fall as fast as they rise...

If you have a house to live in then good luck to you. However just be aware that the value of this asset in pound terms will be falling a long way. The real value is having a place to live.

PS - I Have lots of assets. In a very liquid form. Cash. Plus zero debts. :)
24

Proximo,

07/12/2008 12:11:43
Don't worry ccc; I will do my civic duty for the economy and help the country spend it's way out of trouble. All monthly savings will be invested in presents, food and drink (not necessarily in that order, hehehe).

Life experiences are the way to go son, remember where you heard it first, lol...
25

ccc,

07/12/2008 13:45:10
#25 You do that !

I am in the same boat. Having fun is the way forward. I am thinking of leaving these shores for a while again. Maybe a season in the Alps or such. Come back when everything calms down. I fear I may be away for a while !! :)
26

Julian.,

edinburgh 07/12/2008 23:41:27
CCC # 24,

The correct expression is "in my opinion prices have another 30%+ to fall"

FOO,

Did nobody ever tell you that smugness is not a very attractive quality?
27

Julian.,

edinburgh 07/12/2008 23:44:31
Skinnybob,

Have to disagree there. MP's jobs are only secure for another 18 months. And as for rent boys, I suspect they're probably getting hit by the credit crunch...it's already hitting lapdancers.

How about a debt collector or a bailiff...maybe that's what he does...any comments Foo?
28

Foo,

08/12/2008 09:03:44
Julian, you got anything useful to say or do you just come on to make boring comments and take sides? You're like a child in the playground. Get lost you little insect.

CCC - You have consistently referred to BTL landlords as parasites in the past. And yet, confusingly, you are a strong advocate of renting and not buying. And you have, time afer time, ignored the fact that you are paying a huge amount for your BTL landlords fixed rate. And as for house prices dropping....so? I'm noy selling! What does that have to do with anything!?

I do however agree with you that life is about having fun. And with the massive amount I'm saving, on top of the usual amount I save each month, I can afford holidays aplenty.
29

Bored,

08/12/2008 10:33:49
Foo

I'm curious. What occupation are you in that is 100% safe. I just can't think of any at the moment.
A reasonable question I think?
30

Foo,

08/12/2008 11:07:46
I'm not going to give personal info like that out over the web.

But if you consider I'm my own boss, I'm hardly likely to fire myself am I? That and the industry I am present in and the international nature of my clients means my position is 100% secure. Sorry if that upsets you or anyone else.

And there's tons of industries I can think of that will do well despite lack of credit and recession.

And I imagine Julians position at aldi is pretty secure, shelf stacking is always required and in times of hardship, stores like aldi always thrive.
31

Brian Ferrari,

08/12/2008 11:13:48
#30

Funeral Director

32

Bored,

08/12/2008 11:32:18
Foo

Don't upset me in the least.
What would you do if your customer base ran dry? It could happen. A business is nothing without it's customers.
I still contend that no business is safe. Sorry if that usets you.
33

Bored,

08/12/2008 11:32:55
Foo
Hope that does not happen. Good luck to you anyway.
34

Julian.,

edinburgh 08/12/2008 23:15:15
Foo,

Nothing in life is 100% secure my friend.

By the way, did nobody ever tell you that petulance is also an unattractive quality?

 

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