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Published Date: 05 November 2008
TAXI fares in Edinburgh are set to rise as the cost of fuel and the global economic slowdown hits drivers.
Councillors are set to discuss new proposals to introduce a seven per cent fare increase amid claims the cost of diesel is putting many drivers out of business.

Taxi firms also say they have been affected by the congestion caused by the tram work
s and have not had a fare increase since 2006.

The proposed increase means a £5 fare would rise to £5.35 and a journey currently costing £10 would rise to £10.70.

A report by Jacobs Consultancy, the firm that was appointed in 2005 to undertake three consecutive taxi tariff reviews, says the overall costs of taxi operations in the city have increased from £39,300 in 2007 to £42,000 this year. Of the £2700 increase, 55 per cent is attributable to fuel, Jacobs said.

Murray Fleming, secretary of Central Radio Cabs, said a fare increase was long overdue, but he called into question the way Jacobs had reached its conclusions.

He said: "Given that we've not had a rise since 2006 and all the associated costs have gone up, clearly most drivers are now worse off. The review is long overdue, but we believe that Jacobs' methodology is flawed."

The recommended tariff changes would see the starting fare rise from £1.50 to £1.60 before 6pm on weekdays, and from £2.50 to £2.70 at night and at weekends. The call-out charge would rise from 60p to 70p, and the cleaning fee would also rise, from £20 to £21.50.

The Jacobs report highlights statistics published in trade magazine Private Hire and Taxi Monthly, which show Edinburgh to be 283rd on the list of the UK's most expensive cities for taxi fares.

Last month, the city council agreed to add an extra 20p onto fares as an interim measure until a formal fare rise could be discussed.

Dozens of cabbies are thought to have left the city's taxi trade in the last few months, blaming a combination of the economic downturn, fuel prices and the tram works.

It is understood a number of cabbies are retraining as bus drivers, while others who have passed the city's taxi examination are choosing not to take up work.

Drivers are also now sticking to the ranks, rather than cruising the streets looking for fares.

Raymond Davidson, secretary of the Edinburgh Taxi Association, said the fare increase would be a welcome boost for drivers at a time when many were turning their back on the trade.

"The drivers are taking a real hit from the fuel prices. We've not had a fare rise for over two years and our fares are some of the lowest in the UK.

"Times are very difficult. The credit crunch means many big firms are tightening their belts, and that has a knock-on effect for us. The impact of the tram project has also been massive."





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  • Last Updated: 05 November 2008 10:09 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Transport
 
1

bluehead,

edinburgh 05/11/2008 10:46:21
there is only one thing worse than the increase in fuel for taxi drivers ,and that is the increase in the fares for passengers,
I'll just walk....thank you!!!!
2

P I Staker,

05/11/2008 11:09:49
The taxi trade has obviously not noticed that the price of diesel and petrol has dropped dramatically over the last 3-4 weeks, but that won't stop them looking for more. Taxi fares up - that'll be more expense at cooncil HQ.
3

the hodge,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 11:22:53
#2 now i am not a taxi driver but your ignorance is obvious. Fuel prices may have dropped in recent weeks but compared to this time last year they are still circa %8 higher
4

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 12:01:58
Yeah, the taxi driver who lives in my street is really struggling. His missus has had to do without a new car this year, and is now driving around in a year old BMW, the poor soul. And they've only been able to afford 4 foreign holidays this year.
5

contradiction,

05/11/2008 12:05:12

Surely higher fares will discourage people from using taxis. Less passengers = less income = downward spiral ?
6

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 12:07:12
#7

Where did I criticise? I just pointed out that he is hardly on the breadline.

Please try harder in future.
7

Plantagenet,

05/11/2008 12:14:37
What's wrong taxi drivers? are you down to three holidays abroad this year, well you better not rely on people like me to subsidise your lifestyle, I'd rather walk miles in pouring rain than pour cash towards chancers like you.
8

taxi drivers wife !,

05/11/2008 12:22:10
Not all Taxi Drivers are rolling in it!!...My husband works long hours and very hard. I work part-time, drive a car that is 8 years old and we have NOT had a holiday this year or last year. Not all taxi drivers are money grabbers. He in fact does not want a taxi fare increase. You should not tar all taxi drivers with the same brush. My husband goes out of his way to help customers - ask the young lad he found lying in the road a few weeks back!!. he goes out of his way to return things left in his taxi and numerous times has taken people to their destination if they have not had enough money.
9

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 12:29:30
#10

We should clone him.
10

Plantagenet,

05/11/2008 12:31:46
10. You're right, I shouldn't generalise, I apologise to you and your husband and the other two decent cabbies in Edinburgh. I guess my main target is that bunch of bandits who loll about the airport then when a mug comes along rip them off.
11

crabbit_bassa,

05/11/2008 12:32:55
#10 they probably didnt have enough money as your husband took them the scenic (most costly) route home!

Maybe taxi drivers should stop sitting idling in their taxis outside peoples homes during anti-social hours, this would save wasted fuel
12

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 12:34:05
#12

Indeed. As in all walks of life, you get good cabbies and bad cabbies.

But, in these difficult times when so many people are struggling, it's hard to make a special case for cabbies who have, in general, done pretty well in recent years.
13

crabbit_bassa,

05/11/2008 12:35:11
#10 Also i didnt realise being a taxi driver guaranteed you a holiday. I havent been on holiday for over 15 years. Im going to get a job as a taxi driver, Ibiza here i come.....
14

Flying Upsidedown,

edinburgh 05/11/2008 12:35:17
#10. I too know taxi drivers, there are a few like your husband - but sadly not many.

I tell my children (late teens and early 20's) to always phone home and see if they can get a lift from someone before paying for a taxi. I rekon it costs less and and would not pay a taxi fare unless I absolutely HAD to. I think the fare structure is totally unfair.
15

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05/11/2008 12:36:07
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16

Hector the Red,

05/11/2008 12:36:33
Just in time to rake it in over the festive period....how nice!
17

The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

05/11/2008 12:37:19
"The proposed increase means a £5 fare would rise to £5.35 and a journey currently costing £10 would rise to £10.70."

Thanks for that Mr EEN. 2 examples of what a 7% increase means! Is that what these guys are paid for?
What would a £20 journey cost?
If a journey under the proposed new tariff costs £30, what would it cost today?

Oh. And I don't think there's any need to worry about this. There's obviously a lag between fuel prices and cab fares. So they'll go down again in a few weeks once the recent reductions filter through.

Not sure why an increase in the cost of diesel makes it more expensive to clean a taxi though...
18

Skip McClendon,

05/11/2008 12:40:09
#21

Or a tram. That will cost a lot more though, and will only take you to some unfunished posh flats near Leith.
19

crabbit_bassa,

05/11/2008 12:41:03
#19 Ha ha you are as funny as a stick in the eye! Although seeing you get a stick in the eye would be funny.
20

Mallory,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 12:42:06
Hold on - crude oil and fuel prices have come down haven't they?
21

alex paterson,

edinburgh 05/11/2008 12:42:35
These guys make plenty as it is,and now just in time for Xmas,never give the driver a tip,unless its in the 2-30 at Ayr.
22

The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

05/11/2008 12:44:05
" show Edinburgh to be 283rd on the list of the UK's most expensive cities for taxi fares"

283rd most expensive city in the UK????

Actually, if there are 282 more expensive cities in the UK for a cab than Edinburgh, I take back my original scorn. They probably should put their prices up.
23

Mr Crisps,

Musselburgh 05/11/2008 12:47:12
The banter on this thread is quite amusing.
24

Ron S,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 12:47:37
#23
Funniest thing I've read today!
25

KenR,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 13:07:13
Hmmm, 7% rise in taxi fares when others in public sector, including council employees, are only getting between one third and one half of that in this years pay... No wonder the taxi driver round my way is sitting in the biggest house on the whole estate.
26

Decent,

05/11/2008 13:07:48
Yeah - I'm glad Mario's back I haven't laughed so much in ages. Mrs Taxi Driver - maybe if your husband declared ALL his earnings you would be able to get a loan and have a nice holiday.
Can anybody explain to me how a guy can run five black taxis (double shifted) and two recovery trucks and not be VAT registered?
27

Decent,

05/11/2008 13:09:21
13 - And doing U-turns right in front of you with no warning. B*stards.
28

Decent,

05/11/2008 13:11:38
28 _ I only give them a tip if they're nice to me. But sometimes I don't remember getting home so I don't know if I tipped them or not.
29

foz,

05/11/2008 13:11:44
Are there 283 cities in the UK??
30

Salvatori,

05/11/2008 13:12:33
I know an American who took a taxi from Newcastle to Edinburgh once, on the basis that it "didn't look very far on the map".

He arrrived some £160 later.
31

Salvatori,

05/11/2008 13:18:42
39 - That must be the standardish fair as I took a taxi from Buchanan St bus station to Edinburgh once after a Beastie Boys gig at the SECC as I missed the last bus and didn't fancy camping out with the jakies.

£68 quid it cost me. As we approached Edinburgh via Sighthill he started looking very nervous.
32

John H,

edinburgh 05/11/2008 13:30:21
34 Re declaring all the earnings.
Cash payments without a receipt in any walk of life brings about corruption by avoiding tax due. Go to any cash & carry and see the cash payments being made for goods. Cash that there is no record of earning being used to make more undeclared earnings and so it goes on.
If you are not on PAYE then you are most likely at it.
33

Langenburger,

05/11/2008 13:31:10
2 regulatory points
Regulate all taxi fares to simple and easy to understand costs per pick up per mile etc (and Einburgh should not be the most expensive in the UK outside London) Have a simple formula with a 3 or 6 month review process
Deregulate taxi plates and let market forces prevail
34

Libra Hibby,

05/11/2008 13:36:47
Taxi travel is a luxury few of us can afford at the moment. The days of flagging down a cab just because it is easy or you are too pi$$ed to walk for a night bus have gone. I doubt that putting prices up is likely to help them under the current climate.
35

Salvatori,

05/11/2008 13:39:32
Motorised pavements are the way forward - forget taxis and all this tram talk.
36

malcyh,

05/11/2008 13:59:22
Nice to see the rise coming in for the Xmas rush.And why is working after 6pm at night anti social. Some people aren't even out of their offices at that time. I guess the public will vote with their feet.....literally
37

tomias,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 14:14:15
See piece on First Bus.
38

Jasbar,

05/11/2008 14:18:59
"A report by Jacobs Consultancy, the firm that was appointed in 2005 to undertake three consecutive taxi tariff reviews, says the overall costs of taxi operations in the city have increased from £39,300 in 2007 to £42,000 this year. Of the £2700 increase, 55 per cent is attributable to fuel, Jacobs said."

I don't know where Jacobs got its figures. I could run my own taxi, on my own, for around £10-12,000 per annum, plus fuel of £4-5,000 - but the council won't give me a licence to do so.

Seems they're protecting the cartel, quite happy that by doing so the customer pays more.
39

Jasbar,

05/11/2008 14:24:56
Well done to admin for protecting plantagenet. Good to see that numpties are allowed free reign, while criticising them is not.
40

La5t_minit,

05/11/2008 14:28:02
Who gives a damn about taxis apart from the brain dead, moronic, single cell idiots that attempt to drive them.
No two points in Edinburgh center are more than 20 minutes walk or a £1.10 bus ride away so ban then and solve the problem.

The only people using Taxis today are politicians (who are not capable of putting one foot in front of another without putting one of them in their mouths anyway), Tourists (who cant make head nor tail of the Lothian buses time tables) and bankers who cant count in the first place.

The need for taxis is unfounded in a city center and they should be banished to the bypass to ferry people between Gogar and Straiton for free.
41

Jim W,

05/11/2008 14:43:23
As if taxis aren't expensive enough as it is!!! Don't they realise that in tougher financial climes, their services are one of the first that people will dispense with?
42

Top Floor,

05/11/2008 15:02:50

I understand that, under current legislation, the Council will have to consult on this before they implement anything. So if you've got strong views, either way, submit them to the Council and see what happens.
43

Grumpy,

05/11/2008 15:19:26
(43) - Nice if you can get a night bus - Lothian Bus have just cancelled the ones into East Lothian
44

Plantagenet,

05/11/2008 15:34:44
Having read most of the letters here I have come to the conclusion that most people think that taxis are a rip-off, therefore shouldn't we all be lobbying our councillors to improve the night bus service and offering an alternative to airport taxis, eg airport buses covering several different routes then surely market forces would see a reduction in taxi fares.
45

Plantagenet,

05/11/2008 15:39:13
51. I missed no. 17 who had their comment removed, was it some knucklehead having a go at me?
46

Top Floor,

05/11/2008 15:55:10
#56 You're right, at times like this we need to improve public transport so that people aren't put off going out altogether.

I strongly suspect though that Lothian Buses will make further "service changes" soon given their situation and I don't think the number / frequency of night buses will increase as a result.

Lobbying councillors would be a good start but I don't know if they've got the ability to understand the issue never mind consider a solution.
47

trauts56,

Loanhead 05/11/2008 16:27:31
most posters here are complaining, why dont you just walk home or stay in then you can have no complaints.

have you all stopped using the bank because the executives take huge bonuses from the profits - on top of their already generous salary.

if you are fine with that, the why shouldnt taxis be paid a fair rate for their job, just as you are paid for yours, if you are unhappy with your salary, you could always become a taxi driver.
48

Choose a nameDr_Joseph_Phd,

Tynescos 05/11/2008 19:00:22

Given the astronomical fares one has would expect a well-dressed, professional driver. Why do we put up with these belching, egg fetooned oafs?

Edinburgh's flab drivers have a serious image (not to mention BO) problem.
49

Scott_B,

05/11/2008 19:06:19
No.60 - Because they are not being paid a "fair rate", they are being paid fixed prices, not prices that the market sets. If prices are too low, some taxis will leave. Then the number of taxis will meet demand.

Right now, as we move into a recession, taxis are RAISING prices? I stopped using Edinburgh taxis a while back, and banned it for our company as well, because prices were already ridiculous. If customer numbers fall more than 8%, they're worse off anyway.

On top of which oil prices have fallen by more than half, and still falling. US demand for oil is down 9% from last year, and still falling. Fuel prices are down, and will go down further. Now is not the time for a price hike, and hopefully that will be proven by people taking the bus. If not, it's their money to waste as they like.
50

STOP...... Hammer Time!,

05/11/2008 19:55:39
I've met a number of pleasant, articulate and polite taxi drivers, but the knuckle dragging minority with scant regard for passengers or other road users dissuade me from putting my custom their way.
51

The Undertaker,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 20:08:09
Everything in life go's up so whats an extra pound or so. People that dont want to use them, then dont.

I dont see what the problem is and I'm NOT a Taxi Driver.

Get Over It for Goodness Sake.

P.S. Never mind, once the Trams are here everyone's problems will be solved.
52

*Mummy*,

Edinburgh 05/11/2008 20:52:51
You'll never meet a skint taxi driver.
53

Choose a nameDr_Joseph_Phd,

Tynescos 05/11/2008 20:53:38

At the price they pay Edinburgh's citizens deserve well dressed, considerate drivers. Time for a sea change in the way these curry-splattered buffoons are regulated.
54

sammy818,

east lothian 05/11/2008 23:59:48
Dont you all realise that its the greedy taxi drivers and the council that are causing all these problms i am an edinburgh taxi driver the last thing i want is this rise because as you all are saying its only driving people away i am not adding the 20p on the now cos things are hard enough things are fine as they are and to do all of this would or will be bad for me personally because believe it or not im not out to make hundreds of pounds a day just earn a living so whoever it was that said go to the council and make a stand thats what to do not that they have the brains right enough but could try one more thing why do people go on about the taxi drivers and their cars houses etc think about it we are all paying the council tax every month and for what council employees to have lovely holidays public holidays paid by the way courtesy of all the public and also all thechaos on the roads at the moment so remember the council and greedy people are at the root of all this
55

John H,

edinburgh 06/11/2008 00:03:23
Not a bad job
Work, sorry attend the hours you want.
Take a rental from another driver but on no account hire him as an employee, open up a can of worms there.
Hide your earnings from the tax man, par for the job it would seem.
Self employed for one reason only.
TAX EVASION.
56

sammy818,

east lothian 06/11/2008 00:07:41
im probably getting boring now ut does anybody agree that we had the best bus service in the uk before all the tram work started get a bus anywhere every 5mins or so.is i because we didny get the congestion charges s they thought well we will put a tram in instead and not bother putting it to the vote.i think they are only taking the 22s off to which the tram will replace is it really worth it?
57

Julian.,

edinburgh 06/11/2008 00:52:48
#3 The Hodge,

I have just looked up my old fuel receipts:-

30th Oct 2007, unleaded 94.9p per litre
30th Oct 2008, unleaded 94.9p per litre

So either you are talking rubbish or there has been a massive differential in the price of diesel. If it's the latter let's have the figures
58

sammy818,

east lothian 06/11/2008 10:56:16
thats for petrol taxis run on diesel which is 109.9p the now but that has gone down a lot at one point bp garage had itat 138.0p per litre
59

Ctebe,

Edinburgh 06/11/2008 11:41:12
So - fuel prices dropping like a stone from the freak figures earlier in the year: at the very least we'd expect our nightbuses back. But no, we get a taxi increase instead.
60

familymanwith2jobsandawifeworkingfulltime,

Edinburgh 06/11/2008 13:08:18
What a load of hatred comments to taxis as always. Beats me how when everyone else demands a pay rise every year, its expected taxi drivers are to take a pay cut every year. The council workers went on strike as they were only offered 2.5% of a rise. Taxi operators / drivers would love a 2.5% increase in take home pay year on.
61

sammy818,

prestonpans 06/11/2008 22:32:28
number 70 what planet are you living on and when was the last time you filled up a taxi with diesel dont think you have and i beg your pardon 106.9 i stand corrected.If a cabbie has a very bad working day they have to accept it and still fill the fuel up and NOT receive a monthly pay all these taxi haters are so two faced because obviously you have used or will need a taxi one day never say never. we at the moment are the most reliable source of transport because if you have your car you are limited more than ever now as to which streets you can use buses are held up every where and we can just keep moving so really if you really dont like us then enjoy the pouring rain.
62

Skip McClendon,

07/11/2008 10:01:29
#73

Well, the option to strike is open to you.

I don't see the "hatred" of which you speak in evidence. Most are merely pointing out that everyone is struggling, so making a special case for taxi-drivers - many of whom earn more than the national average wage - is not really something that will provoke a great deal of public support.
63

shanksy,

07/11/2008 13:04:46
everyone who is complaining about taxi fares.....

how many wage rises you had since 2006?

1, 2? - guessing maybe 3 or 3,5% each time

taxi drivers have had none since 2006 - maybe its about time they got a raise - you've had a wage rise to cover the cost of living, why shouldnt they
64

Big bob 79,

21/11/2008 13:04:22
Taxis are too expensive, increaing fares will only serve to drive more people away from the cabs, fares should be cut.
With whats going on in Edinburgh with delays on the roads the black cabs could really boost their customers taking people from the buses

65

E. Rid L,

Midlothian 27/02/2009 11:59:32
Wouldn't it be nice if some taxi drivers didn't use the bus lane as their own race track undertacking us poor car drivers who stick to the speed limit. They could cut the cost by not asking for indicator on the taxi, as most don't use them aswel as their mirrors, and a bit more road sense instead of just pulling out or doing U turns just infornt of other drivers. HGV's, Buses don't stop to quickly!!
66

sppr,

edinburger 14/03/2009 14:07:37
Please get in touch with the local cooncil and tell them yi canny pay these prices and mibay they will listen to the puplic instead of a few self appointed reps from the taxi trade who dont want to work as taxi drivers and take as much out of the companies that they work in and pull the wool over the eyes of more conservative minded individuals within the trade who really know that a price hike right now is not needed
So remember if you object to the rise get in touch with the council and tell them you think fares are high enough ! You can also shop about for companies that give discounts after all if taxi companies can give banks insurance and a multitude of other organisations good discount deals why do they need a rise the whole system needs to be looked at. Wonder if it would be possible for the council to get all taxi operators to vote via the councils web site a simple yes or no is all thats needed just log in with their licence number and hey presto they all get a chance to have a say or is that to simple.

 

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